From nobody Fri Apr 1 05:17:25 2022 Return-Path: X-Original-To: emu@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: emu@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A2533A11A9; Fri, 1 Apr 2022 05:16:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.909 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.909 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BQqpFtHEWV5I; Fri, 1 Apr 2022 05:16:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.networkradius.com (mail.networkradius.com [62.210.147.122]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E46583A0120; Fri, 1 Apr 2022 05:16:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpclient.apple (24-52-251-6.cable.teksavvy.com [24.52.251.6]) by mail.networkradius.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 692CD168; Fri, 1 Apr 2022 12:16:45 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: NetworkRADIUS; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=deployingradius.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 15.0 \(3693.60.0.1.1\)) From: Alan DeKok In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2022 08:16:43 -0400 Cc: "Independent Submissions Editor (Eliot Lear)" , radext@ietf.org, EMU WG , emu-ads@ietf.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6C5442C1-2291-4464-AB7E-1105FC290575@deployingradius.com> References: <7FEC9E12-846B-4218-8F29-F6839243B8C2@deployingradius.com> <35F3907F-9EDD-45D7-B2CB-101FD02FE642@deployingradius.com> <1cab955a-1379-d191-0d44-81d2c355d231@rfc-editor.org> To: Bernard Aboba X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3693.60.0.1.1) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Emu] EAP Erratum 6154 on RFC 3579: X-BeenThere: emu@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAP Methods Update \(EMU\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2022 12:16:57 -0000 +1 Other than that, they look OK, thanks. > On Apr 1, 2022, at 1:16 AM, Bernard Aboba = wrote: >=20 > I think the note in eid6259 is now superfluous. Can we remove it?=20 >=20 > On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 10:09 PM Independent Submissions Editor (Eliot = Lear) wrote: > Corrected URLs below: >=20 > On 01.04.22 06:48, Independent Submissions Editor (Eliot Lear) wrote: > > Ok. > > > > I have edited =E2=80=93 but not yet verified =E2=80=93 the two = errata accordingly. =20 > > Please see: > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid6154 > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid6259 From nobody Fri Apr 1 05:26:04 2022 Return-Path: X-Original-To: emu@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: emu@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96B633A1221; Fri, 1 Apr 2022 05:25:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.911 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.911 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id brktYPJc23cy; Fri, 1 Apr 2022 05:25:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [IPV6:2001:420:c0c0:1011::4] (unknown [IPv6:2001:420:c0c0:1011::4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BC1F63A1213; Fri, 1 Apr 2022 05:25:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2022 14:25:38 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.7.0 Content-Language: en-US To: Alan DeKok , Bernard Aboba Cc: radext@ietf.org, EMU WG , emu-ads@ietf.org References: <7FEC9E12-846B-4218-8F29-F6839243B8C2@deployingradius.com> <35F3907F-9EDD-45D7-B2CB-101FD02FE642@deployingradius.com> <1cab955a-1379-d191-0d44-81d2c355d231@rfc-editor.org> <6C5442C1-2291-4464-AB7E-1105FC290575@deployingradius.com> From: "Independent Submissions Editor (Eliot Lear)" In-Reply-To: <6C5442C1-2291-4464-AB7E-1105FC290575@deployingradius.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Emu] EAP Erratum 6154 on RFC 3579: X-BeenThere: emu@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAP Methods Update \(EMU\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2022 12:25:47 -0000 Ok.  Then I will reject eid6259. Eliot On 01.04.22 14:16, Alan DeKok wrote: > +1 > > Other than that, they look OK, thanks. > >> On Apr 1, 2022, at 1:16 AM, Bernard Aboba wrote: >> >> I think the note in eid6259 is now superfluous. Can we remove it? >> >> On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 10:09 PM Independent Submissions Editor (Eliot Lear) wrote: >> Corrected URLs below: >> >> On 01.04.22 06:48, Independent Submissions Editor (Eliot Lear) wrote: >>> Ok. >>> >>> I have edited – but not yet verified – the two errata accordingly. >>> Please see: >>> >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid6154 >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid6259 From nobody Fri Apr 1 07:57:40 2022 Return-Path: X-Original-To: emu@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: emu@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D0C03A1731; Fri, 1 Apr 2022 07:57:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_ALL=0.8, DKIM_INVALID=0.1, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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boundary="0000000000002e8a6405dbcf97ed" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Emu] EAP Erratum 6154 on RFC 3579: X-BeenThere: emu@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAP Methods Update \(EMU\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2022 08:05:42 -0000 --0000000000002e8a6405dbcf97ed Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I submitted errata on this https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid6915 On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 5:21 PM Alan DeKok wrote: > On Mar 31, 2022, at 10:05 AM, Oleg Pekar > wrote: > > > > It looks like RADIUS RFC 2865, Section "5. Attributes" is ambiguous when > it talks about the attribute value size: > > > > First it says: "The Value field is zero or more octets", then it > provides 5 possible value data types none of which allows a zero length > value. > > Yeah. :( It's horrible. > > > Section "5.26. Vendor-Specific" also says about the value of a > vendor-specific attribute "The String field is one or more octets". > > > > Thus the RFC allows empty values for attributes in general but prohibits > for any declared types of the attributes. > > Yes. > > RADIUS is weird and terrible. > > Alan DeKok. > > --0000000000002e8a6405dbcf97ed Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I submitted errata on this=C2=A0https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid6915
On= Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 5:21 PM Alan DeKok <aland@deployingradius.com> wrote:
On Mar 31, 2022, at 10:05 AM, Oleg = Pekar <ol= eg.pekar.2017@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It looks like RADIUS RFC 2865, Section "5. Attributes" is am= biguous when it talks about the attribute value size:
>
> First it says: "The Value field is zero or more octets", the= n it provides 5 possible value data types none of which allows a zero lengt= h value.

=C2=A0 Yeah.=C2=A0 :(=C2=A0 It's horrible.

> Section "5.26. Vendor-Specific" also says about the value of= a vendor-specific attribute "The String field is one or more octets&q= uot;.
>
> Thus the RFC allows empty values for attributes in general but prohibi= ts for any declared types of the attributes.

=C2=A0 Yes.

=C2=A0 RADIUS is weird and terrible.

=C2=A0 Alan DeKok.

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charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I read through the high level parts of the draft and have following comment= s: - "compromising smart cards" Not sure the attacks actually attacked the smart cards. I suggest reformu= lating this as "compromising the smart card supply chain". - I think the draft should mention zero-trust. Suggestion to add the follow= ing text: "Always assuming breach such as key compromise and minimizing the impact = of breach are essential zero-trust principles. Forward secrecy is therefore= a requirement for zero-trust" - I think the draft should add mandatory client identity protection. EAP-TL= S 1.3 (RFC 9190) has the following requirement, which makes a lot of sense: "A client supporting TLS 1.3 MUST NOT send its username (or any other permanent identifiers) in cleartext in the Identity Response (or any message used instead of the Identity Response)." I think mandatory to use client identity protection should be a requireme= nt in all future EAP methods. I suggest adding similar text: "A client supporting EAP-AKA' FS MUST NOT send its username (or any other permanent identifiers) in cleartext in the Identity Response (or any message used instead of the Identity Response)." - "or turn off FS." I think the draft should have a recommendation to long term completely ph= ase out AKA without FS. Best practice security today is very clearly to man= date FS for this type of access authentication (as is done in WPA3, EAP-TLS= 1.3, EAP-TTLS 1.3, etc). - I think the description of consequences of key compromise can be improved= . My summary would be: "If a mechanism without forward secrecy (5G-AKA, EAP-AKA=92) is used the ef= fects of key compromise are devastating. The serious consequences of breach= somewhere in the supply chain or after delivery that are possible when 5G-= AKA or EAP-AKA' is used but not when something with forward secrecy like EA= P-AKA-FS is used are: 1. A passive attacker can eavesdrop (decrypt) all future 5G communication (= control and user plane both directions). 2. A passive attacker can decrypt 5G communication that they previously rec= orded in the past (control and user plane both directions). 3. An active attacker can impersonate UE and Network and inject messages in= an ongoing 5G connection between the real UE and the real network (control= and user plane both directions). 4. An active attacker modify messages (block real message and send new modi= fied message) in an ongoing 5G connection between the real UE and the real = network (control and user plane both directions)." I think only 1. is described in detail. At least 2. And 3. deserves a detai= led explanation. - I think the draft should have security considerations on the limits of fo= rward secrecy and why frequent use of Diffie-Hellman (i.e. frequently rerun= ning EAP-AKA' FS) provides even better security and privacy against key com= promise. The following text written by me was just added to RFC8446bis. Cou= ld be a basis for text added to EAP-AKA' FS. "Forward secrecy limits the effect of key leakage in one direction (comprom= ise of a key at time T2 does not compromise some key at time T1 where T1 < = T2). Protection in the other direction (compromise at time T1 does not comp= romise keys at time T2) can be achieved by rerunning EC(DHE). If a long-ter= m authentication key has been compromised, a full handshake with EC(DHE) gi= ves protection against passive attackers. If the resumption_master_secret h= as been compromised, a resumption handshake with EC(DHE) gives protection a= gainst passive attackers and a full handshake with EC(DHE) gives protection= against active attackers. If a traffic secret has been compromised, any ha= ndshake with EC(DHE) gives protection against active attackers. Using the t= erms in {{RFC7624}}, forward secrecy without rerunning EC(DHE) does not sto= p an attacker from doing static key exfiltration. After key exfiltration of= application_traffic_secret_N, an attacker can e.g., passively eavesdrop on= all future data sent on the connection including data encrypted with appli= cation_traffic_secret_N+1, application_traffic_secret_N+2, etc. Frequently = rerunning EC(DHE) forces an attacker to do dynamic key exfiltration (or con= tent exfiltration)." Cheers, John From: Emu on behalf of internet-drafts@ietf.org Date: Monday, 7 March 2022 at 22:20 To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: emu@ietf.org Subject: [Emu] I-D Action: draft-ietf-emu-aka-pfs-06.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the EAP Method Update WG of the IETF. Title : Forward Secrecy for the Extensible Authentication= Protocol Method for Authentication and Key Agreement (EAP-AKA' FS) Authors : Jari Arkko Karl Norrman Vesa Torvinen Filename : draft-ietf-emu-aka-pfs-06.txt Pages : 26 Date : 2022-03-07 Abstract: Many different attacks have been reported as part of revelations associated with pervasive surveillance. Some of the reported attacks involved compromising smart cards, such as attacking SIM card manufacturers and operators in an effort to compromise shared secrets stored on these cards. Since the publication of those reports, manufacturing and provisioning processes have gained much scrutiny and have improved. However, the danger of resourceful attackers for these systems is still a concern. This specification is an optional extension to the EAP-AKA' authentication method which was defined in [RFC9048]. The extension, when negotiated, provides Forward Secrecy for the session key generated as a part of the authentication run in EAP-AKA'. This prevents an attacker who has gained access to the long-term pre- shared secret in a SIM card from being able to decrypt any past communications. In addition, if the attacker stays merely a passive eavesdropper, the extension prevents attacks against future sessions. This forces attackers to use active attacks instead. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-emu-aka-pfs/ There is also an htmlized version available at: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-emu-aka-pfs-06 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-emu-aka-pfs-06 Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at rsync.ietf.org::internet-dra= fts _______________________________________________ Emu mailing list Emu@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/emu --_000_HE1PR0701MB3050D6679312CEB364BB325F89ED9HE1PR0701MB3050_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

 

I read through the high level parts of the draft and= have following comments:

 

 

- "compromising smart cards"

  Not sure the attacks actually attacked the smart cards. I su= g= gest reformulating this as

  "compromising the smart card supply chain".

 

 

- I think the draft should mention zero-trust. Suggestion to= add the following text:

  "Always assuming breach such as key compromise and mini= mizing the impact of breach are essential zero-tru= st principles. Forward secrecy is therefore a requirement for zero-trust&qu= ot;

 

 

- = I think the draft should add mandatory client identity protection. EAP-TLS 1.3 (RFC= 9190) has the following requirement, which makes a lot of sense:

 

  "A client supporting TLS 1.3 MUST NOT send its username=

   (or any other permanent identifiers) in cleartext in t= he Identity

   Response (or any message used instead of the Identity = Response)."

 

  I think mandatory to use client identity protection should b= e a requirement in all

  future EAP methods. I suggest adding similar text:

 

    "A client supporting EAP-AKA' FS MUST NOT s= end its username

   (or any other permanent identifiers) in cleartext in t= he Identity

   Response (or any message used instead of the Identity = Response)."

 

 

- "or turn off FS."

 

  I think the draft should have a recommendation to long term = completely phase out AKA without FS. Best practice security today is very c= learly to mandate FS for this type of access authentication (as is done in WPA3, EAP-TLS 1.3, E= AP-TTLS 1.3, etc).

 

 

- I think the description of conseque= nces of key compromise can be improved. My summary would be:

 

"If a mechanism without forward secrecy (5G-AKA, EAP-AKA=92) i= s used the effects of key compromise are devastating. The serious consequen= ces of breach somewhere in the supply chain or after delivery that are possible when 5G-AKA or EAP-AKA' is used but no= t when something with forward secrecy like EAP-AKA-FS is used are:

 

1. A passive attacker can eavesdrop (decrypt) all future 5G communi= cation (control and user plane both directions).

2. A passive attacker can decrypt 5G communication that they previo= usly recorded in the past (control and user plane both directions).

3. An active attacker can impersonate UE and Network and inject mes= sages in an ongoing 5G connection between the real UE and the real network = (control and user plane both directions).

4. An active attacker modify messages (block real message and send = new modified message) in an ongoing 5G connection between the real UE and t= he real network (control and user plane both directions)."

 

I think only 1. is de= scribed in detail. At least 2. And 3. deserves a detailed explanation.

 

 

- I think the draft should have security considerations on the limi= ts of forward secrecy and why frequent use of D= iffie-Hellman (i.e. frequently rerunning EAP-AKA' FS) provides even better = security and privacy against key compromise. The following text written by = me was just added to RFC8446bis. Could be a basis for

text added to EAP-AKA' FS.

 

"Forward secrecy limits the effect of key leakage in one direc= tion (compromise of a key at time T2 does not compromise some key at time T= 1 where T1 < T2). Protection in the other direction (compromise at time T1 does not compromise keys at time T2) can = be achieved by rerunning EC(DHE). If a long-term authentication key has bee= n compromised, a full handshake with EC(DHE) gives protection against passi= ve attackers. If the resumption_master_secret has been compromised, a resumption handshake with EC(DHE) gives protection= against passive attackers and a full handshake with EC(DHE) gives protecti= on against active attackers. If a traffic secret has been compromised, any = handshake with EC(DHE) gives protection against active attackers. Using the terms in {{RFC7624}}, forward secrecy = without rerunning EC(DHE) does not stop an attacker from doing static key e= xfiltration. After key exfiltration of application_traffic_secret_N, an att= acker can e.g., passively eavesdrop on all future data sent on the connection including data encrypted with ap= plication_traffic_secret_N+1, application_traffic_secret_N+2, etc. Frequent= ly rerunning EC(DHE) forces an attacker to do dynamic key exfiltration (or = content exfiltration)."

 

Cheers,

John

 

From: Emu <emu-bounces@ietf.org> on beha= lf of internet-drafts@ietf.org <internet-drafts@ietf.org>
Date: Monday, 7 March 2022 at 22:20
To: i-d-announce@ietf.org <i-d-announce@ietf.org>
Cc: emu@ietf.org <emu@ietf.org>
Subject: [Emu] I-D Action: draft-ietf-emu-aka-pfs-06.txt<= /span>


A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies.
This draft is a work item of the EAP Method Update WG of the IETF.

        Title    &nb= sp;      : Forward Secrecy for the Extensible Auth= entication Protocol Method for Authentication and Key Agreement (EAP-AKA' F= S)
        Authors    &= nbsp;    : Jari Arkko
            &nb= sp;            = Karl Norrman
            &nb= sp;            = Vesa Torvinen
        Filename    =     : draft-ietf-emu-aka-pfs-06.txt
        Pages    &nb= sp;      : 26
        Date    &nbs= p;       : 2022-03-07

Abstract:
   Many different attacks have been reported as part of revelatio= ns
   associated with pervasive surveillance.  Some of the repo= rted attacks
   involved compromising smart cards, such as attacking SIM card<= br>    manufacturers and operators in an effort to compromise shared = secrets
   stored on these cards.  Since the publication of those re= ports,
   manufacturing and provisioning processes have gained much scru= tiny
   and have improved.  However, the danger of resourceful at= tackers for
   these systems is still a concern.

   This specification is an optional extension to the EAP-AKA'    authentication method which was defined in [RFC9048].  Th= e extension,
   when negotiated, provides Forward Secrecy for the session key<= br>    generated as a part of the authentication run in EAP-AKA'.&nbs= p; This
   prevents an attacker who has gained access to the long-term pr= e-
   shared secret in a SIM card from being able to decrypt any pas= t
   communications.  In addition, if the attacker stays merel= y a passive
   eavesdropper, the extension prevents attacks against future se= ssions.
   This forces attackers to use active attacks instead.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ie= tf-emu-aka-pfs/

There is also an htmlized version available at:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/h= tml/draft-ietf-emu-aka-pfs-06
A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3D= draft-ietf-emu-aka-pfs-06


Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at rsync.ietf.org::internet-dra= fts


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--_000_HE1PR0701MB3050D6679312CEB364BB325F89ED9HE1PR0701MB3050_-- From nobody Tue Apr 12 18:36:02 2022 Return-Path: X-Original-To: emu@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: emu@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31C093A1714 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2022 18:36:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.806 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.806 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTTPS_HTTP_MISMATCH=0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1nvUaaJSYqrQ for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2022 18:35:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from frasgout.his.huawei.com (frasgout.his.huawei.com [185.176.79.56]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CBA323A006A for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2022 18:35:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fraeml711-chm.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.147.207]) by frasgout.his.huawei.com (SkyGuard) with ESMTP id 4KdQ90741Hz6873b for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2022 09:33:40 +0800 (CST) Received: from sineml705-chm.china.huawei.com (10.223.161.112) by fraeml711-chm.china.huawei.com (10.206.15.60) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256) id 15.1.2375.24; Wed, 13 Apr 2022 03:35:52 +0200 Received: from sineml706-chm.china.huawei.com (10.223.161.113) by sineml705-chm.china.huawei.com (10.223.161.112) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256) id 15.1.2308.21; Wed, 13 Apr 2022 09:35:51 +0800 Received: from sineml706-chm.china.huawei.com ([10.223.161.113]) by sineml706-chm.china.huawei.com ([10.223.161.113]) with mapi id 15.01.2308.021; Wed, 13 Apr 2022 09:35:51 +0800 From: Wang Haiguang To: Meiling Chen , Joseph Salowey , emu Thread-Topic: [Emu] Call for Adaption for draft-chen-emu-eap-tls-ibs Thread-Index: AQHYTVVZNSeOAzUks0ub0AhqfKWklqzri44jgAGHBjE= Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2022 01:35:51 +0000 Message-ID: <8e48eddbac9e488a83480401d00d3f60@huawei.com> References: , <2022041210142267648112@chinamobile.com> In-Reply-To: <2022041210142267648112@chinamobile.com> Accept-Language: en-SG, en-US Content-Language: en-SG X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.223.236.99] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_8e48eddbac9e488a83480401d00d3f60huaweicom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Emu] Call for Adaption for draft-chen-emu-eap-tls-ibs X-BeenThere: emu@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAP Methods Update \(EMU\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2022 01:36:00 -0000 --_000_8e48eddbac9e488a83480401d00d3f60huaweicom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear all As an author of the draft, I am YES to all three questions. Best regards Haiguang ________________________________ From: Emu on behalf of Meiling Chen Sent: Tuesday, 12 April 2022 10:14:23 AM To: Joseph Salowey; emu Subject: Re: [Emu] Call for Adaption for draft-chen-emu-eap-tls-ibs Hi all, As an author, I am completely YES to the 3 questions. Best, Meiling From: Joseph Salowey Date: 2022-04-11 11:35 To: EMU WG Subject: [Emu] Call for Adaption for draft-chen-emu-eap-tls-ibs This is an adoption call for EAP-IBS (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draf= t-chen-emu-eap-tls-ibs/) as an EMU working group item. Please respond to = this call and answer the following questions by April 24, 2022: 1. Do you think this draft should be an EMU working group Item? 2. Would you contribute by reviewing this document? 3. Would you contribute text to this document? Thanks, The Chairs --_000_8e48eddbac9e488a83480401d00d3f60huaweicom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear all


As an author of the draft, I am YES to all three questions. 


Best regards


Haiguang

From: Emu <emu-bounces@i= etf.org> on behalf of Meiling Chen <chenmeiling@chinamobile.com> Sent: Tuesday, 12 April 2022 10:14:23 AM
To: Joseph Salowey; emu
Subject: Re: [Emu] Call for Adaption for draft-chen-emu-eap-tls-ibs<= /font>
 
Hi all,
As an author,  I am completely YES to the 3 questions.

Best,<= /div>
Meiling 
Date: 2022-04-11 11:35
Subject: [Emu] Call for Adaption for draft-chen-emu-eap-tl= s-ibs
This is an adoption call for EAP-IBS (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-chen-emu-eap= -tls-ibs/) as an EMU working group item.  Please respond to this call and answer= the following questions by April 24, 2022:

1. Do you think this draft should be an EMU working group Item?

2. Would you contribute by reviewing this document?

3. Would you contribute text to this document?

Thanks,

The Chairs
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1.  Not = sure.  I do not object, but I am not sure how many people want to = implement.


2. =  I will review the ASN.1.  In fact, I already did = so.

3.  I = contributed corrections to the ASN.1.

Russ


From: Joseph Salowey
Date: 2022-04-11 11:35
To: EMU WG
Subject: [Emu] Call for Adaption for = draft-chen-emu-eap-tls-ibs
This is = an adoption call for EAP-IBS (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-chen-emu-eap-tls-ibs/) as an EMU working group item.  Please respond to this call and = answer the following questions by April 24, 2022:

1. Do you think this draft should be an EMU working group = Item?

2. Would you contribute by reviewing = this document?

3. Would you contribute text to this = document?

Thanks,

The Chairs

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Yes. This is useful in resource-limited scenarios. 2. Yes. 3. Probably, subject to if there are critical changes to the draft or not > From: Joseph Salowey > Date: 2022-04-11 11:35 > To: EMU WG > Subject: [Emu] Call for Adaption for draft-chen-emu-eap-tls-ibs > This is an adoption call for EAP-IBS (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-chen-emu-eap-tls-ibs/) as an EMU working group item. Please respond to this call and answer the following questions by April 24, 2022: > > 1. Do you think this draft should be an EMU working group Item? > > 2. Would you contribute by reviewing this document? > > 3. Would you contribute text to this document? > > Thanks, > > The Chairs > > -- Regards Paul Yang From nobody Wed Apr 13 21:22:16 2022 Return-Path: X-Original-To: emu@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: emu@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41D593A1277 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2022 21:22:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.808 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.808 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTTPS_HTTP_MISMATCH=0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ObvlOupDmYg6 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2022 21:22:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cmccmta1.chinamobile.com (cmccmta1.chinamobile.com [221.176.66.79]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 112F03A1275 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2022 21:22:09 -0700 (PDT) X-RM-TagInfo: emlType=0 X-RM-SPAM-FLAG: 00000000 Received: from spf.mail.chinamobile.com (unknown[172.16.121.7]) by rmmx-syy-dmz-app02-12002 (RichMail) with SMTP id 2ee26257a16e23a-974a6; Thu, 14 Apr 2022 12:22:07 +0800 (CST) X-RM-TRANSID: 2ee26257a16e23a-974a6 X-RM-TagInfo: emlType=0 X-RM-SPAM-FLAG: 00000000 Received: from cmccPC (unknown[10.2.53.158]) by rmsmtp-syy-appsvr04-12004 (RichMail) with SMTP id 2ee46257a16ed8d-2b559; Thu, 14 Apr 2022 12:22:07 +0800 (CST) X-RM-TRANSID: 2ee46257a16ed8d-2b559 From: "SuLi" To: References: <202204141219345918851@chinamobile.com> In-Reply-To: <202204141219345918851@chinamobile.com> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2022 12:22:09 +0800 Message-ID: <000401d84fb7$35207a40$9f616ec0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01D84FFA.4343BA40" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AdhPttfDPO5Nb7S4TMyutP6glYv7EwAACu4A Content-Language: zh-cn Archived-At: Subject: [Emu] =?utf-8?b?562U5aSNOiAgQ2FsbCBmb3IgQWRhcHRpb24gZm9yIGRyYWZ0?= =?utf-8?q?-chen-emu-eap-tls-ibs?= X-BeenThere: emu@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAP Methods Update \(EMU\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2022 04:22:14 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01D84FFA.4343BA40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As one of the authors, I am yes to all three questions. =20 Best Regards! 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As one of the authors, I am yes to all three = questions.

 

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Thanks,

 

The = Chairs

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