Subject: [gaia] Thank you to our presenters, note-takers, and participants - GAIA @IETF100 in Singapore

From: Jane Coffin <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 09:19:47 +0000

Hello, all –

Another great round of presentations and discussion for the IETF100 GAIA. 
Thank you to Amreesh, Luis, Arjuna, Leandro, and Jehan for great presentations across a broad spectrum of issues/solutions.
-measurements studies/peering environments, CNs in disaster management, crypto-mesh and self-service connectivity, and last-mile w/o a centralized ISP solutions in Althea.
There are questions for you that you likely will see on this list or sent directly to you.

Many thanks to Corinne Cath and Amreesh for note-taking, and for all that participated in person and on-line.

All docs from the meeting are on-line.
-As suggested by Niels – we will ask Luis M for the data from the post-earthquake CN experience in Mexico, and put on the Wiki.

Expect a note from us to Schedule a December on-line interim meeting.  

The Plenary is up in about 5 minutes.  Join if you can.

Best,
Jane/Arjuna

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On 11/15/17, 1:24 PM, "gaia on behalf of Jane Coffin" <[email-masked] on behalf of [email-masked]> wrote:

    And, just to make sure you all have the agenda – this is the one on-line:
    
    We start in 10 minutes!
    
    GAIA-RG Meeting @ IETF-100, Singapore
    Wednesday, 15 November 2017 (SGT)
    1330-1500 (SGT UTC+8) Afternoon Session I
    Location  Olivia
    Etherpad  https://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/p/notes-ietf-100-gaia?useMonospaceFont=trueÊ
    Jabber  https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/100/agenda.html#2017-11-14-083000
    Video  https://olivia.conf.meetecho.com/q-meetecho/login.jsp?ietf=gaiaÊ
    Audio  https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/100/agenda.html#2017-11-14-083000Ê
    
    Welcome, Agenda Bash, Minutes taker, Blue sheets, Status
    Jane Coffin, co-chair, Introduction, progress
    5 mins
    
    All speakers
    15 mins to present and 3 for Q&A
    
    Dissecting the African Internet:An Intra-Continental Study
    Amreesh Phokeer, AFRINIC, Mauritius
    
    Bringing CN Knowledge to Disaster Relief
    Luis Martinez, Ibero-American University, Mexico City, Mexico
    
    Rise of the Crypto Mesh
    Arjuna Sathiaseelan, GAIA Co-Chair & University of Cambridge, Cambridge, UK
    Remote
    
    Self-service Connectivity:Feasiblity, Business models and Sustainability
    Leandro Navarro, UPC and Ammbr Research Labs
    
    Althea:Incentivized Mesh
    Jehan Tremback, Althea Networks
    Remote
    
    Open discussion of informational best practices document and next steps for GAIARG
    Chairs/All, 20-25 mins

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    On 11/15/17, 12:20 PM, "gaia on behalf of Arjuna Sathiaseelan" <[email-masked] on behalf of [email-masked]> wrote:
    
        Jehan,
         No - thats a misconception. The hardware and software are all open source.
        
        Ammbr consensus security is not based on a hidden system key.  Instead
        it uses an evolution of the hyperledger PoET consensus algorithm in
        conjunction with a power efficient proof of work variant called 'Proof
        of Velocity'. It won't matter who manufactures the chip as long as it
        exhibits the same operational behaviour.  There aren't any special
        keys baked into the chip which are Ammbr system keys used universally.
        Each chip generates it's own keypair and then enrols itself with the
        Ammbr network's consensus DAO. The DAO enforces consensus
        participation rules which require some level of transit market
        activity to ensure consensus participants are legitimate and
        contributing members of the Ammbr mesh network.  If not, they can
        still do everything else, but they can't participate in consensus.
        
        regards
        
        On 15 November 2017 at 00:43, Jehan Tremback <[email-masked]> wrote:
        > Arjuna, am I correct in assuming that the energy efficient consensus
        > mechanism means that mining will be secured by chips containing a
        > cryptographic key held only by Ammbr? It seems like that will force
        > manufacturers wishing to make hardware supporting your protocol buy chips
        > from Ammbr.
        >
        > --
        >   Jehan Tremback
        >   [email-masked]
        >
        >
        >
        > On Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 02:25 PM, Michael J. Oghia wrote:
        >
        > Hi Arjuna,
        >
        > Even just looking through the slides, you sold me. This sounds fascinating,
        > and I really appreciate the fact that AMMBR prioritized sustainability as
        > well (e.g., the energy efficient PoW consensus mechanism it uses).
        >
        > Kudos!
        >
        > Best,
        > -Michael
        >
        > On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 6:32 PM, Arjuna Sathiaseelan
        > <[email-masked]> wrote:
        >
        > Jane,
        >
        > My revised set of slides (final) is here
        > https://www.dropbox.com/s/dlm8xgb29l2thue/GAIA-ammbr.pdf?dl=0
        >
        > On 14 Nov 2017 17:12, "Jane Coffin" <[email-masked]> wrote:
        >
        > Hello good people -
        >
        > Agenda for tomorrow’s meeting is below and available here:
        > https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/gaia/meetings/
        >
        > GAIA-RG Meeting @ IETF-100, Singapore
        > Wednesday, 15 November 2017 (SGT)
        > 1330-1500 (SGT UTC+8) Afternoon Session I – NOTE this is 0530-0700 UTC
        > Location  Olivia
        > Etherpad
        > https://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/p/notes-ietf-100-gaia?useMonospaceFont=true
        > Jabber
        > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/100/agenda.html#2017-11-14-083000
        > Video  https://olivia.conf.meetecho.com/q-meetecho/login.jsp?ietf=gaia
        > Audio
        > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/100/agenda.html#2017-11-14-083000
        >
        > Welcome, Agenda Bash, Minutes taker, Blue sheets, Status
        > Jane Coffin, co-chair, Introduction, progress
        > 10 mins
        >
        > All speakers
        > 10 mins to present and 3 for Q&A
        >
        > Dissecting the African Internet:An Intra-Continental Study
        > Amreesh Phokeer, AFRINIC, Mauritius
        >
        > Bringing CN Knowledge to Disaster Relief
        > Luis Martinez, Ibero-American University, Mexico City, Mexico
        >
        > Rise of the Crypto Mesh
        > Arjuna Sathiaseelan, GAIA Co-Chair & University of Cambridge, Cambridge, UK
        > Remote
        >
        > Self-service Connectivity:Feasiblity, Business models and Sustainability
        > Leandro Navarro, UPC and Ammbr Research Labs
        >
        > Althea:Incentivized Mesh
        > Jehan Tremback, Althea Networks
        > Remote
        >
        > Open discussion of informational best practices document and next steps for
        > GAIARG
        > Chairs/All, 20-30 mins
        > **************************
        >
        > More slides/revised slides will be uploaded before the meeting starts.
        >
        > Best,
        > Jane
        >
        >
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        >
        > Skype:  janercoffin
        >
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        >
        > On 11/14/17, 7:30 AM, "gaia on behalf of Jane Coffin" <[email-masked]
        > on behalf of [email-masked]> wrote:
        >
        >     Brilliant –
        >
        >     Uploading those this morning from Singapore and making sure we are
        > “ready to roll” as they say.
        >
        >     For those at the IETF in person – please spread the word.
        >
        >     For those who are able to join remotely, looking forward to your online
        > participation.
        >
        >     More data on its way as we finalize the agenda!
        >
        >     And, note the importance of your assistance and participation in working
        > on an iRTF informational doc.
        >
        >     Jane/Arjuna
        >
        >
        >     Internet Society | www.internetsociety.org
        >
        >     Skype:  janercoffin
        >
        >     Mobile/WhatsApp:  +1.202.247.8429
        >
        >     On 11/14/17, 2:33 AM, "[email-masked] on behalf of Arjuna
        > Sathiaseelan" <[email-masked] on behalf of
        > [email-masked]> wrote:
        >
        >         Jane, all
        >
        >         Please find my slides:
        >         https://www.dropbox.com/s/dlm8xgb29l2thue/GAIA-ammbr.pdf?dl=0
        >
        >         Regards
        >
        >         On 13 November 2017 at 06:47, Jane Coffin <[email-masked]> wrote:
        >         > Hi Good People of GAIA –
        >         >
        >         >
        >         >
        >         > In person and online GAIA meeting this week:  Wednesday, 15 Nov
        > @IETF 100 in
        >         > Singapore from 13.30-1500 SGT (UTC+8) (UTC 0530-0700)
        >         >
        >         > Location:  Olivia Room
        >         >
        >         > Livestream info here:
        >         > https://olivia.conf.meetecho.com/q-meetecho/login.jsp?ietf=gaia
        >         >
        >         >
        >         >
        >         > Agenda:  This is what we have so far and we have room for 2 more
        >         > presentations.
        >         >
        >         >
        >         >
        >         > 1. Project/Network Presentations & Q&A: (1330-1430)
        >         >
        >         > -Jehan Tremback, Althea Networks
        >         >
        >         > -Sarbani Belur, Gram Marg
        >         >
        >         > -Arjuna’s team, Cambridge University:  Community Networks &
        > Blockchain
        >         >
        >         > -Luis Martinez, UIA Mexico – Community Networks & Disaster Relief
        >         >
        >         > -Room for 2 more
        >         >
        >         > 2. BCP Discussion: (1430-1500)
        >         >
        >         >
        >         >
        >         > If we have missed anyone, ping us and we will finalize the agenda
        > by Tuesday
        >         > at 1500 UTC.
        >         >
        >         >
        >         > Best,
        >         >
        >         > Jane/Arjuna
        >         >
        >         >
        >         >
        >         >
        >         >
        >         >
        >         >
        >         > Internet Society | www.internetsociety.org
        >         >
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        >         >
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        >         >
        >         >
        >         >
        >         > From: gaia <[email-masked]> on behalf of Jane Coffin
        >         > <[email-masked]>
        >         > Date: Thursday, September 21, 2017 at 12:50 AM
        >         > To: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
        >         > Cc: Konstantinos Komaitis <[email-masked]>
        >         > Subject: [gaia] Upcoming GAIA meeting in Singapore, Online
        > Collaboration and
        >         > Suggestion for a BCP process!
        >         >
        >         >
        >         >
        >         > Hello All –
        >         >
        >         >
        >         >
        >         > As we noted in our last email, there will be a GAIA meeting at the
        > upcoming
        >         > Singapore IETF 100 meeting.  We have registered for the time-slot
        > and we are
        >         > waiting for the IETF to close the official request process and let
        > us know
        >         > what day we have been allocated.
        >         >
        >         >
        >         >
        >         > Call for Presentations:  We would like to put out a call for
        > presentations
        >         > for the meeting with this email.
        >         >
        >         >
        >         >
        >         > You can present in person if you are planning to attend the
        > Singapore 100
        >         > meeting, or you can present via video link.
        >         >
        >         >
        >         >
        >         > We also are happy to arrange for an online meeting before
        > Singapore 100 to
        >         > organize ourselves and discuss the proposed BCP related to
        > community
        >         >
        >         > networks.
        >         >
        >         >
        >         >
        >         > Please let us know what you think about the online meeting and
        > proposed BCP!
        >         >
        >         >
        >         >
        >         > Jane/Arjuna
        >         >
        >         >
        >         >
        >         >
        >         >
        >         >
        >         >
        >         > Internet Society | www.internetsociety.org
        >         >
        >         > Skype:  janercoffin
        >         >
        >         > Mobile/WhatsApp:  +1.202.247.8429
        >         >
        >         >
        >         >
        >         > From: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]> on behalf of Kurtis
        > Heimerl
        >         > <[email-masked]>
        >         > Date: Thursday, September 14, 2017 at 3:37 PM
        >         > To: Jane Coffin <[email-masked]>
        >         > Cc: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
        >         > Subject: Re: [gaia] Upcoming GAIA Meetings, Online Collaboration
        > and
        >         > Suggestion for a BCP process!
        >         >
        >         >
        >         >
        >         > Hi All,
        >         >
        >         >
        >         >
        >         > First off, I plan to attend the IETF GAIA meeting in Singapore and
        > I'm super
        >         > excited to see you all there (and maybe present?).
        >         >
        >         >
        >         >
        >         > As far as our workshop, there will be a community networking
        > workshop at
        >         > ICTD in Lahore, Pakistan immediately after the IETF meeting
        >         > (http://ictd2017.itu.edu.pk/). We have confirmed speakers from
        > community
        >         > networks in South Africa, Philippines, Thailand (thanks
        > Kanchana!), Pakistan
        >         > and others. If you do want to attend, there is likely going to be
        > funding
        >         > available but the Visa process will be difficult (especially for
        > Indians!)
        >         > and should be started sooner rather than later. ICTD is a
        > wonderful
        >         > conference and this is the first major computer science conference
        > in
        >         > Pakistan, so your attendance would be appreciated! There's a real
        > easy
        >         > flight from Bangkok to Lahore as well!
        >         >
        >         >
        >         >
        >         > On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 8:14 AM, Jane Coffin <[email-masked]>
        > wrote:
        >         >
        >         >
        >         > Hello All –
        >         >
        >         > We hope this email finds you well.  Thank you for the
        > participation at
        >         > IETF99.  We had excellent in-person and on-line participation.
        >         > As a result of suggestions from that meeting, you will find
        > proposals below
        >         > for Online meetings, and a work stream to progress work:
        >         >
        >         > 1.  GAIA@IETF 100:  We will have a face-to-face meeting during
        > IETF 100 in
        >         > Singapore.  We will send out more data and a call for
        > presentations over the
        >         > next 2 weeks.  For information on IETF 100 – see
        >         > https://www.ietf.org/meeting/100/index.html
        >         >
        >         > 2.  We have received two requests to hold remote GAIA meetings
        > during an
        >         > upcoming AIT meeting on community networks in Bangkok, Thailand in
        > November
        >         > and an upcoming ICTD meeting in Pakistan in November.  More
        > information will
        >         > be sent around by Kurtis H and Dr. Kanchana respectively.
        >         >
        >         > 3. Online GAIA meetings in between IETF meetings.  We would like
        > to propose
        >         > a GAIA online meeting in January, May and September on the first
        > Tuesday of
        >         > these months at 1100 UTC.
        >         >
        >         > 4. A Workstream was proposed during IETF 99 and via online
        > discussion:
        >         > Based on feed-back from the group, we would like to propose a
        > preliminary
        >         > work-stream:
        >         > -A BCP on Community Networks – Jane/Arjuna to help manage the
        > process with
        >         > input from all of you and CNs we all know.
        >         >
        >         > Please provide us with feedback on points 3 and 4 no later than 29
        > September
        >         > 2300 UTC, and we move from there.
        >         >
        >         > Please also look for emails from Dr. Kanchana and Kurtis about the
        > November
        >         > meetings they propose to hold.
        >         >
        >         > Best to all,
        >         > Arjuna and Jane
        >         >
        >         >
        >         >
        >         >
        >         > Internet Society | www.internetsociety.org
        >         >
        >         > Skype:  janercoffin
        >         >
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        >         >
        >         > On 8/22/17, 10:56 AM, "gaia on behalf of Leonardo Maccari"
        >         > <[email-masked] on behalf of [email-masked]>
        > wrote:
        >         >
        >         >
        >         >
        >         >     On 15/08/17 18:50, Arjuna Sathiaseelan wrote:
        >         >     > Thanks Niels..
        >         >     >
        >         >     > Probably interesting to see if BMX7 could be extended to
        > also use
        >         >     > transit pricing as a metric..
        >         >
        >         >     Hi Arjuna,
        >         >
        >         >     I know that BMX6 supported several metrics, and could be
        > extended
        >         >     without much work:
        >         >
        >         >     http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/stamp/stamp.jsp?arnumber=7300903
        >         >
        >         >     also OLSRv2 supports any metric as long as it is additive and
        >         > directional.
        >         >
        >         >     best,
        >         >     leonardo.
        >         >
        >         >     > regards
        >         >     >
        >         >     > On 15 August 2017 at 21:37, Niels ten Oever
        >         > <[email-masked]> wrote:
        >         >     >> Hi Arjuna,
        >         >     >>
        >         >     >> I only found this:
        >         >     >>
        >         >     >>
        > http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S138912861100377X
        >         >     >>
        >         >     >> But if you find more I'd be curious as well!
        >         >     >>
        >         >     >> Best,
        >         >     >>
        >         >     >> Niels
        >         >     >>
        >         >     >> On 08/10/2017 07:18 AM, Arjuna Sathiaseelan wrote:
        >         >     >>> Dear All,
        >         >     >>>   Hope you are all enjoying your summer break!
        >         >     >>>
        >         >     >>> I am trying to figure out if there are papers I could
        > refer to on
        >         > work
        >         >     >>> related adhoc mesh routing based on transit pricing.
        > Thanks.
        >         >     >>>
        >         >     >>> Regards
        >         >     >>>
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