Subject: Re: [idn] WG Update

From: [email-masked]
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 21:55:55 -0700

On Fri, 5 Oct 2001 15:12:15 -0700 (PDT) Kenneth Whistler
<[email-masked]> writes:
> Liana said:
> 
> >  If nameprep remains as it is, the other languages but 
> > Latin, Greek, Cyrillic and Armenian,
> 
> These are not *languages* but *scripts*. 
> 
> > have to go through
> >  another level of filtering.  This creates not only fair treatment
> >  issue,
> 
> Huh? Are you suggesting that it is unfair that other scripts
> which don't have case differences don't have to have those
> nonexistent case differences folded together? Are you suggesting,
> say, that Hebrew should introduce case differences so they can
> be fairly folded away? Or that if Latin, Greek, Cyrillic,
> and Armenian get to fold away their case differences that
> users of every other script should be given a chance to fold
> *some* distinction away, to be "fair", even if the distinction
> in question has nothing to do with the domain name case folding
> that is being grandfathered in for backwards compatibility?
> 
> > but also posts look-alike character consistency 
> >  treatment problem.
> 
> On what basis do you make this claim?
>
I am giving an example down here:
   
> > 
> > Within the current nameprep spec first, take Armenian letter 
> > "n", 
> 
> There is no Armenian letter "n". There is an Armenian letter NOW
> for the /n/ sound...
> 
> > which is identical to Latin "n", they are identical, 
> 
> ...but it is not identical to Latin "n". What are you going
> on about?
> 
> > but 
> > we don't have a way to treat this cross scripted look-alike
> > in nameprep flat mapping.
> 
> It isn't a look-alike in the first place.
> 

Please check U+0570 U+0578 U+057d U+0581 U+0584
 U+0585

Can you say these do not look like Latin letters? 

> > 
> > If we treate this Armenian case in two levels, how shall we 
> > do it?  Are there any differences the user will see? 
> 
> Yes. Armenian is visually completely distinct from Latin.
> That is obvious.
> 
> --Ken
> 
Then could you please try to think how should we do 
this as two different scripts?  

Liana