From nobody Mon Dec 1 13:49:06 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nfsv4@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nfsv4@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AB421AC3EB; Mon, 1 Dec 2014 13:49:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id k4tJbwl10Nmr; Mon, 1 Dec 2014 13:48:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2182D1AC3F5; Mon, 1 Dec 2014 13:48:13 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.7.4 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20141201214813.26266.83016.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2014 13:48:13 -0800 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/nfsv4/UxyOGz-S6BRZw09b0O9k9SB2NwU Cc: nfsv4@ietf.org Subject: [nfsv4] I-D Action: draft-ietf-nfsv4-flex-files-03.txt X-BeenThere: nfsv4@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: NFSv4 Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2014 21:49:04 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Network File System Version 4 Working Group of the IETF. Title : Parallel NFS (pNFS) Flexible File Layout Authors : Benny Halevy Thomas Haynes Filename : draft-ietf-nfsv4-flex-files-03.txt Pages : 27 Date : 2014-12-01 Abstract: The Parallel Network File System (pNFS) allows a separation between the metadata and data for a file. The metadata file access is handled via Network File System version 4 (NFSv4) minor version 1 (NFSv4.1) and the data file access is specific to the protocol being used between the client and storage device. The client is informed by the metadata server as to which protocol to use via a Layout Type. The Flexible File Layout Type is defined in this document as an extension to NFSv4.1 to allow the use of storage devices which need not be tightly coupled to the metadata server. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-nfsv4-flex-files/ There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-nfsv4-flex-files-03 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-nfsv4-flex-files-03 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Tue Dec 2 10:54:19 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nfsv4@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nfsv4@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12C071A6F93 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2014 10:54:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id V8wrG1wFDfeG for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2014 10:54:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pd0-f171.google.com (mail-pd0-f171.google.com [209.85.192.171]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F88E1A1B36 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2014 10:54:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-pd0-f171.google.com with SMTP id y13so13748738pdi.2 for ; Tue, 02 Dec 2014 10:54:13 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :subject:message-id:date:to:mime-version; bh=REosZVnjvKmrZBvAyCa4qLMcivSh5VVm7bg2rY20Kq8=; b=Rmmf9BGYCGFMdnMyzUB8gAIvoEOlAVP+G5k+rn4fMiu1KCSY8rqGFP2QlCi4gZOYrb G0JnUb0TWDvxlddCXrgKYpjU7EmpOSOcKCre5f2wXWN26C+Y576axOAqpOKnqsZD88a+ 5c1RTiJbfTA8DARb7dMbAMJA8oNid9e3hBTQGLpPoqjWPruwtKtf88TNKpCW3WxJiZEV EcmMqq/DRhIFhDXXWUlQhZJu/HKMF5KoLu+eOQOldkplLjc2+zM1WYVFQ/A/IYxjEF8c fQTyL50Zd5m0FK2ClP7quvvTMPtND9PNCswcPy3ugD3ywSjkzeLq7FPXujybq60DvZ9l OwUA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmG6Qz06JsXi1MO7MYjE6RzMUlizcNoYrdyYGVpUECS7MRCliK92k1PswPeVN+8XIN5HNvc X-Received: by 10.70.42.98 with SMTP id n2mr936947pdl.139.1417546453686; Tue, 02 Dec 2014 10:54:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.30.8.37] ([50.242.95.105]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id qg2sm4231851pdb.5.2014.12.02.10.54.12 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 02 Dec 2014 10:54:13 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Haynes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <27C64B8B-6C43-4997-92EB-0C286615585D@primarydata.com> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 10:54:11 -0800 To: NFSv4 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.1 \(1993\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1993) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/nfsv4/wYKRwFP53hxeXgHT9pjNxrC7UoM Subject: [nfsv4] NFSv4.2 WG LC (is over) X-BeenThere: nfsv4@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: NFSv4 Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 18:54:18 -0000 The only =E2=80=9Copen=E2=80=9D issue I see is what do we do about = inter-server SSC, specifically with regards to RPCSEC_GSSv3? I.e., there is a normative reference on the RPCSEC_GSSv3 I-D and this = I-D will not get published until that one is published. There are two proposals: 1) Keep the normative reference in place and let the process take = however much longer it needs. 2) Remove inter-server copy, creating a new document to track it, and = leverage the new minor versioning proposal to get inter-server copy in = place as soon as the RPCSEC_GSSv3 work is done. This approach will most = likely require an additional WG review of the changes. Comments? 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The = only comment I have is to flatten some of the XDR. >=20 > AFAICS we can go to last call on gssv3. >=20 >>=20 >> I.e., there is a normative reference on the RPCSEC_GSSv3 I-D and this = I-D will not get published until that one is published >=20 >>=20 >> There are two proposals: >>=20 >> 1) Keep the normative reference in place and let the process take = however much longer it needs. >=20 > If gssv3 goes to WGLC then how does the timing work out? >=20 >>=20 >> 2) Remove inter-server copy, creating a new document to track it, and = leverage the new minor versioning proposal to get inter-server copy in = place as soon as the RPCSEC_GSSv3 work is done. This approach will most = likely require an additional WG review of the changes. >=20 > You would also need to remove Full mode LNFS - a _highly_ desired = feature as guest-mode LNFS leaves a very large security hole. >=20 That was removed some time ago. :-) > =E2=80=94>Andy >=20 >>=20 >> Comments? >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> nfsv4 mailing list >> nfsv4@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nfsv4 >=20 From nobody Tue Dec 2 11:08:15 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nfsv4@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nfsv4@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E52011A6FD2 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2014 11:08:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.912 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.912 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6AAYTeDo3Ap0 for ; 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However, servers may make decisions based on the - RPC credential information available and future specifications - may provide subject label transport. + absence of RPCSEC_GSSv3 support + for subject label transport. However, servers may make decisions + based on the RPC credential information available.
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This draft is a work item of the Network File System Version 4 Working Group of the IETF. Title : Network File System (NFS) Version 4 Protocol Authors : Thomas Haynes David Noveck Filename : draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc3530bis-35.txt Pages : 300 Date : 2014-12-04 Abstract: The Network File System (NFS) version 4 is a distributed file system protocol which builds on the heritage of NFS protocol version 2, RFC 1094, and version 3, RFC 1813. Unlike earlier versions, the NFS version 4 protocol supports traditional file access while integrating support for file locking and the mount protocol. In addition, support for strong security (and its negotiation), compound operations, client caching, and internationalization have been added. Of course, attention has been applied to making NFS version 4 operate well in an Internet environment. This document, together with the companion XDR description document, RFCNFSv4XDR, obsoletes RFC 3530 as the definition of the NFS version 4 protocol. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc3530bis/ There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc3530bis-35 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc3530bis-35 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Thu Dec 4 11:27:00 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nfsv4@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nfsv4@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 993D51A010C; Thu, 4 Dec 2014 11:26:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5aAHR7uMwuKN; Thu, 4 Dec 2014 11:26:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DF1F1A00AD; Thu, 4 Dec 2014 11:26:44 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.7.4 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20141204192644.15313.20243.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2014 11:26:44 -0800 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/nfsv4/duD3bGBeKsTSBc_mDDMTU4nQHCY Cc: nfsv4@ietf.org Subject: [nfsv4] I-D Action: draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc3530bis-dot-x-23.txt X-BeenThere: nfsv4@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: NFSv4 Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2014 19:26:49 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Network File System Version 4 Working Group of the IETF. Title : Network File System (NFS) Version 4 External Data Representation Standard (XDR) Description Authors : Thomas Haynes David Noveck Filename : draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc3530bis-dot-x-23.txt Pages : 37 Date : 2014-12-04 Abstract: The Network File System (NFS) version 4 is a distributed filesystem protocol which owes its heritage to NFS protocol version 2, RFC 1094, and version 3, RFC 1813. Unlike earlier versions, the NFS version 4 protocol supports traditional file access, while integrating support for file locking and the mount protocol. In addition, support for strong security (and its negotiation), compound operations, client caching, and internationalization have been added. Of course, attention has been applied to making NFS version 4 operate well in an Internet environment. RFC3530bis formally obsoleting RFC 3530. This document, together with RFC3530bis replaces RFC 3530 as the definition of the NFS version 4 protocol. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc3530bis-dot-x/ There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc3530bis-dot-x-23 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc3530bis-dot-x-23 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Thu Dec 4 11:33:25 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nfsv4@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nfsv4@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B0D31A0177; Thu, 4 Dec 2014 11:33:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id u142zSCzpzyI; Thu, 4 Dec 2014 11:33:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDF8F1A01D5; Thu, 4 Dec 2014 11:33:10 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.7.4 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20141204193310.24543.80221.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2014 11:33:10 -0800 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/nfsv4/pkrY6-jdG0m9V9TSz53ExeOfhc8 Cc: nfsv4@ietf.org Subject: [nfsv4] I-D Action: draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc3530bis-dot-x-24.txt X-BeenThere: nfsv4@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: NFSv4 Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2014 19:33:13 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Network File System Version 4 Working Group of the IETF. Title : Network File System (NFS) Version 4 External Data Representation Standard (XDR) Description Authors : Thomas Haynes David Noveck Filename : draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc3530bis-dot-x-24.txt Pages : 37 Date : 2014-12-04 Abstract: The Network File System (NFS) version 4 is a distributed filesystem protocol which owes its heritage to NFS protocol version 2, RFC 1094, and version 3, RFC 1813. Unlike earlier versions, the NFS version 4 protocol supports traditional file access, while integrating support for file locking and the mount protocol. In addition, support for strong security (and its negotiation), compound operations, client caching, and internationalization have been added. Of course, attention has been applied to making NFS version 4 operate well in an Internet environment. RFC3530bis formally obsoleting RFC 3530. This document, together with RFC3530bis replaces RFC 3530 as the definition of the NFS version 4 protocol. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc3530bis-dot-x/ There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc3530bis-dot-x-24 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc3530bis-dot-x-24 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Thu Dec 4 13:10:55 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nfsv4@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nfsv4@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FEC91A1EE9; Thu, 4 Dec 2014 13:10:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id idiY9Gz6qeq3; Thu, 4 Dec 2014 13:10:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C86611A1A55; Thu, 4 Dec 2014 13:10:44 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.7.4 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20141204211044.9300.34824.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2014 13:10:44 -0800 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/nfsv4/7IGQ8FfI9PykYPNnsl7_RcqEUcU Cc: nfsv4@ietf.org Subject: [nfsv4] I-D Action: draft-ietf-nfsv4-flex-files-04.txt X-BeenThere: nfsv4@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: NFSv4 Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2014 21:10:48 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Network File System Version 4 Working Group of the IETF. Title : Parallel NFS (pNFS) Flexible File Layout Authors : Benny Halevy Thomas Haynes Filename : draft-ietf-nfsv4-flex-files-04.txt Pages : 29 Date : 2014-12-04 Abstract: The Parallel Network File System (pNFS) allows a separation between the metadata and data for a file. The metadata file access is handled via Network File System version 4 (NFSv4) minor version 1 (NFSv4.1) and the data file access is specific to the protocol being used between the client and storage device. The client is informed by the metadata server as to which protocol to use via a Layout Type. The Flexible File Layout Type is defined in this document as an extension to NFSv4.1 to allow the use of storage devices which need not be tightly coupled to the metadata server. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-nfsv4-flex-files/ There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-nfsv4-flex-files-04 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-nfsv4-flex-files-04 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Fri Dec 5 09:04:13 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nfsv4@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nfsv4@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A2A21AD420 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2014 09:04:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.211 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.211 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eUy9fih63EhS for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2014 09:04:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com (aserp1040.oracle.com [141.146.126.69]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 918B41AD409 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2014 09:04:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id sB5H47Jg031056 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 5 Dec 2014 17:04:08 GMT Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id sB5H467s013105 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Fri, 5 Dec 2014 17:04:07 GMT Received: from abhmp0003.oracle.com (abhmp0003.oracle.com [141.146.116.9]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id sB5H469P021410; Fri, 5 Dec 2014 17:04:06 GMT Received: from [10.135.188.69] (/10.135.188.69) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 09:04:04 -0800 Message-ID: <5481E583.3010303@oracle.com> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2014 11:04:03 -0600 From: Bill Baker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; SunOS i86pc; rv:10.0.6esrpre) Gecko/20120731 Thunderbird/10.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nfsv4@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/nfsv4/6amXg_VH4qUrZ84aIDxXsga4OOY Cc: tina.hartshorn@oracle.com, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org Subject: [nfsv4] Announcing Connectathon 2015 X-BeenThere: nfsv4@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: NFSv4 Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2014 17:04:11 -0000 Greetings, Oracle will be hosting Connectathon 2015 the last week in February (2/23 - 2/27) in the Agnews auditorium on Oracle's Santa Clara Campus. I've updated the http://www.connectathon.info with the latest information, including (welcome) changes to the registration fee structure. Please contact our event coordinator, Tina.Hartshorn@oracle.com, if you need additional information or have special requirements. Feel free to forward this on to other interested parties. Regards, -- Bill Baker - Oracle Solaris NFS development From nobody Fri Dec 5 12:03:25 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nfsv4@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nfsv4@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07E681ACDA6; Fri, 5 Dec 2014 12:03:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.211 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.211 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 86mVl201X8Mo; Fri, 5 Dec 2014 12:03:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from dmz-mailsec-scanner-2.mit.edu (dmz-mailsec-scanner-2.mit.edu [18.9.25.13]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E62811A008F; Fri, 5 Dec 2014 12:03:21 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: 1209190d-f79006d000000cfe-0c-54820f88156d Received: from mailhub-auth-3.mit.edu ( [18.9.21.43]) (using TLS with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by dmz-mailsec-scanner-2.mit.edu (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id 01.4B.03326.88F02845; Fri, 5 Dec 2014 15:03:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu [18.9.28.11]) by mailhub-auth-3.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.9.2) with ESMTP id sB5K3JLT025528; Fri, 5 Dec 2014 15:03:20 -0500 Received: from multics.mit.edu (system-low-sipb.mit.edu [18.187.2.37]) (authenticated bits=56) (User authenticated as kaduk@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.12.4) with ESMTP id sB5K3HMr026808 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 5 Dec 2014 15:03:18 -0500 Received: (from kaduk@localhost) by multics.mit.edu (8.12.9.20060308) id sB5K3GEf000571; Fri, 5 Dec 2014 15:03:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 15:03:16 -0500 (EST) From: Benjamin Kaduk To: "Adamson, Andy" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20141119180500.1172.39180.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> User-Agent: Alpine 1.10 (GSO 962 2008-03-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFvrAIsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUixCmqrdvB3xRiMGefnsXRzatYLGa/f8Rq MX2RlQOzx5IlP5k8Znz6whbAFMVlk5Kak1mWWqRvl8CVcWPBLtaCDRoVW/YnNzAeVOhi5OSQ EDCReNO5kRnCFpO4cG89WxcjF4eQwGImiZ//5rFAOBsYJaYe/M8I4Rxkkni55yALSIuQQL3E kom3GEFsFgEtiaefdoLZbAIqEjPfbAQaxcEhImAgsXGpKkiYWUBZ4sCnFUwgtrCAq8S5I/vY QGxOgUCJRZt6wFp5BRwljq1cC7XrLaPEt7kdYEWiAjoSq/dPYYEoEpQ4OfMJC8RQLYnl07ex TGAUnIUkNQtJagEj0ypG2ZTcKt3cxMyc4tRk3eLkxLy81CJdI73czBK91JTSTYzggJXk3cH4 7qDSIUYBDkYlHt4VEo0hQqyJZcWVuYcYJTmYlER5jT8BhfiS8lMqMxKLM+KLSnNSiw8xSnAw K4nwJs8GyvGmJFZWpRblw6SkOViUxHk3/eALERJITyxJzU5NLUgtgsnKcHAoSfDO4GsKERIs Sk1PrUjLzClBSDNxcIIM5wEavhGkhre4IDG3ODMdIn+KUVFKnPccSEIAJJFRmgfXC0sorxjF gV4R5m0GqeIBJiO47ldAg5mABt8tBrm6uCQRISXVwJhYfE6HReVit6Dyr5AJ2+zYdjpOdS68 sqbkdUWVy6zZIiWbuAoFzhWa/pvgW8z12fmR0q3DLv9sZ7HMUNdM0Kn88znwBfOEulgdx2cx ep+t78fZtS/d77UwYMKH1UlyWsarbKZN83b5yLP4QXmzyJU5TyNnveVt7M/Jn81u+6Nsj9Xk i0d3nVNiKc5INNRiLipOBACgZLGMAwMAAA== Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/nfsv4/IPYb-EnccvqEel9rPhxgJjdvRI8 Cc: kitten@ietf.org, nfsv4@ietf.org Subject: Re: [nfsv4] I-D Action: draft-ietf-nfsv4-rpcsec-gssv3-09.txt X-BeenThere: nfsv4@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: NFSv4 Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2014 20:03:24 -0000 Adding nfsv4 to receive the extra feedback, and kitten since I don't think the proposed solution for multi-principal assertion in the new draft was posted there yet. On Tue, 2 Dec 2014, Andy Adamson wrote: > Any comments on the multi-principal assertion changes? I think I > handled it correctly - replacing the nonce/MIC of nonce with MIC of > RPC header including credential using the inner context for both args > and reply. I'll briefly summarize the proposal for the kitten folks (and to verify that I'm reading it correctly). I will play very fast-and-loose with the XDR and field names, for concision. To recall, the RPCSEC_GSS traffic involves the generic RPC header followed by the RPC body. The header is: struct { [stuff, includes sequence number which is unique per transmission] credential verifier } Where the verifier is basically a GSS MIC over the header up to and including the credential. This verifier is always a GSS MIC regardless of the protection of the RPC body (none, integrity, or privacy). For integrity-protected RPCs (which are mostly what we care about here, since with confidentiality protection an attacker can't grab the inner verifier), the RPC body is: struct { sequence number XDR-encoded call/args/etc. verifier } where the verifier is a GSS MIC over the sequence number and the XDR blob. For RPCSEC_GSS_CREATE, party of the "XDR-encoded call/args/etc" is supposed to be the GSS inner context handle and verifier, which identify the user part of the multi-principal authentication. The version in the -08 was just a context handle, nonce, and mic over the nonce, which could be read by an attacker and replayed in an attacker-controlled parent connection. The new proposal is to have this role played by: struct { credential id verifier } where the verifier is now a GSS MIC over the current RPC header, up to and including the credential (i.e., the same content as the RPC header's verifier). Since this structure is included in the RPC call body, it will be included in the MIC over the body as part of the RPC integrity protection (this is not really relevant for preventing an attacker from replaying the inner authenticator). I think that the current proposal (-09) has acceptable security properties, since the inner verifier is tied to the outer context handle. Potentially an attacker could replay or MITM a call, but would not be able to use the resulting child context handle, since it is tied to the actual outer context's GSS security context. That said, I don't think there is any reason to exclude the RPC header verifier field from the GSS MIC with the inner handle, since the RPC header can be fully constructed by that point, and it might end up providing slightly tighter binding of the inner handle to the outer RPC. It also might be worth thinking about including the inner context handle id in the MIC, but it is probably not necessary. [kitten folks can probably stop reading here] > We need to goto WGLC, so I'm putting out one more draft. I have some > miscellaneous fixes - including your flattening of rigs_assertion. Another miscellaneous fix: Section 2 reads rather strangely, with the first bullet point just assuming that there is an existing RPCSEC_GSSv3 context handle and saying nothing about how it is created. That text could probably be reworked to be more clear and accurate, thought I don't have any concrete suggestions offhand. Section 2.3 also reads a bit oddly, with the first paragraph describing a situation that would have occurred if the MITM problem was not addressed, and the second paragraph describing the fix. Having the first paragraph read as if the MITM vulnerability is still present in the protocol specified by this document is rather strange. Section 2.5 says that RPCSEC_GSS_BIND_CHANNEL MUST NOT be used on a v3 handle, but section 2.7 still lists rpc_gss_svc_channel_prot as an acceptable security service for protecting the _CREATE and _LIST control messages -- rpc_gss_svc_channel_prot cannot be used on a non-child v3 handle unless RPCSEC_GSS_BIND_CHANNEL has been performed. Perhaps a full review of the document should be made to ensure that all of the coverage of the v2 channel binding procedure is self-consistent. I guess rpc_gss_svc_channel_prot could make sense for _LIST, but I don't think it works for _CREATE, so perhaps that should be noted in the bullet item in section 2.7. There is probably something to be said about the ordering of entries in rcr_assertions (with respect to rca_assertions' order). If I'm reading correctly (I skimmed that part a bit) the server returns in rcr_assertions exactly the subset of rca_assertions which was accepted by the server's processing. The client may want to verify which of its assertions were accepted, and requiring the server to return things in the same order would facilitate implementation efficiency in the client. 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at 3:03 PM, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: > > > > Adding nfsv4 to receive the extra feedback, and kitten since I don't think > > the proposed solution for multi-principal assertion in the new draft was > > posted there yet. > > Hello Ben > > The high level proposed solution for multi-principal assertion as well > as the draft-09 was posted on the nfsv4 list. Thanks for posting to > kitten. > > I believe the attached draft-10 addresses your review comments. Thanks. I think the only thing I have to say about this draft -10 is that dropping the default branch of union rgss3_assertion_u will cause decoder failures on old servers if ever a new assertion type is added and clients start to use it, which is not desired. -Ben From nobody Mon Dec 8 06:59:18 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nfsv4@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nfsv4@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50B0A1A90AE for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2014 06:59:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.912 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.912 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vwjpfVixXbfx for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2014 06:59:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx11.netapp.com (mx11.netapp.com [216.240.18.76]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA2811A90A8 for ; 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Signed-off-by: Andy Adamson --- nfsv42_middle_copy.xml | 12 ++++++------ 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-) diff --git a/nfsv42_middle_copy.xml b/nfsv42_middle_copy.xml index 86d1f19..dd98540 100644 --- a/nfsv42_middle_copy.xml +++ b/nfsv42_middle_copy.xml @@ -785,9 +785,9 @@ An instance of copy_from_auth_priv is filled in with the shared secret, the destination server, and the NFSv4 user id of the user principal and is placed in rpc_gss3_create_args - assertions[0].assertion.privs.privilege. The + assertions[0].privs.privilege. The string "copy_from_auth" is placed in - assertions[0].assertion.privs.name. The source server + assertions[0].privs.name. The source server unwraps the rpc_gss_svc_privacy RPCSEC_GSS3_CREATE payload and verifies that the NFSv4 user id being asserted matches the source server's mapping of the user principal. If it @@ -805,9 +805,9 @@ by COPY_NOTIFY, and the NFSv4 user id of the user principal. The copy_to_auth_priv instance is placed in rpc_gss3_create_args - assertions[0].assertion.privs.privilege. The + assertions[0].privs.privilege. The string "copy_to_auth" is placed in - assertions[0].assertion.privs.name. The destination + assertions[0].privs.name. The destination server unwraps the rpc_gss_svc_privacy RPCSEC_GSS3_CREATE payload and verifies that the NFSv4 user id being asserted matches the destination server's mapping of the user @@ -898,9 +898,9 @@ and MUST be the same as the ctap_username in the copy_to_auth privilege. The copy_confirm_auth_priv instance is placed in rpc_gss3_create_args - assertions[0].assertion.privs.privilege. + assertions[0].privs.privilege. The string "copy_confirm_auth" is placed in - assertions[0].assertion.privs.name. + assertions[0].privs.name. -- 1.9.3 (Apple Git-50) From nobody Mon Dec 8 08:02:23 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nfsv4@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nfsv4@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEEFD1A876B; Mon, 8 Dec 2014 08:02:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yHWUpnhHWo35; Mon, 8 Dec 2014 08:02:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F002D1A1BD1; Mon, 8 Dec 2014 08:02:19 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.7.4 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20141208160219.16277.97912.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 08:02:19 -0800 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/nfsv4/gT0EWvsOeNi1FUDzxDBoMPji9zA Cc: nfsv4@ietf.org Subject: [nfsv4] I-D Action: draft-ietf-nfsv4-rpcsec-gssv3-10.txt X-BeenThere: nfsv4@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: NFSv4 Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 16:02:22 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Network File System Version 4 Working Group of the IETF. Title : Remote Procedure Call (RPC) Security Version 3 Authors : William A. (Andy) Adamson Nico Williams Filename : draft-ietf-nfsv4-rpcsec-gssv3-10.txt Pages : 21 Date : 2014-12-08 Abstract: This document specifies version 3 of the Remote Procedure Call (RPC) security protocol (RPCSEC_GSS). This protocol provides for multi- principal authentication of client hosts and user principals to server (constructed by generic composition), security label assertions for multi-level and type enforcement, structured privilege assertions, and channel bindings. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-nfsv4-rpcsec-gssv3/ There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-nfsv4-rpcsec-gssv3-10 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-nfsv4-rpcsec-gssv3-10 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:CY1PR0301MB0842; H:CY1PR0301MB0844.namprd03.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; MLV:sfv; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; A:1; LANG:en; Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_CY1PR0301MB0844402C2FE3BCA00E9752EEC7640CY1PR0301MB0844_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: microsoft.onmicrosoft.com Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/nfsv4/-4JZ76j_61hN28MYevziIRFXoYI Subject: [nfsv4] Last Call ending Dec 29th for "Remote Procedure Call (RPC) Security Version 3" X-BeenThere: nfsv4@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: NFSv4 Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 17:32:36 -0000 --_000_CY1PR0301MB0844402C2FE3BCA00E9752EEC7640CY1PR0301MB0844_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable With Andy's update, we will be starting a last call for the following I-D Remote Procedure Call (RPC) Security Version 3 draft-ietf-nfsv4-rpcsec-gssv3-10 http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-nfsv4-rpcsec-gss= v3/ We will end the last call on Dec 29th. Understanding the impact of the December holidays on review time, I have ex= tended this last call to 3 weeks. If there is a desire or need to extend it further for effective review, ple= ase let me know. Spencer --_000_CY1PR0301MB0844402C2FE3BCA00E9752EEC7640CY1PR0301MB0844_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

With Andy’s update, we will be starting a last= call for the following I-D

        &nbs= p;       Remote Procedure Call (RPC) Security= Version 3

        &nbs= p;       draft-ietf-nfsv4-rpcsec-gssv3-10

        &nbs= p;       http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-nfsv4-rpcsec-gssv3/

 

We will end the last call on Dec 29th.

 

Understanding the impact of the December holidays on= review time, I have extended this last call to 3 weeks.

 

If there is a desire or need to extend it further fo= r effective review, please let me know.

 

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--_000_CY1PR0301MB0844402C2FE3BCA00E9752EEC7640CY1PR0301MB0844_-- From nobody Mon Dec 8 09:48:04 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nfsv4@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nfsv4@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02CBC1A1B25 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2014 09:48:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.912 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.912 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WDnWQH0ZJ_6s for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2014 09:48:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx12.netapp.com (mx12.netapp.com [216.240.18.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 447981A8785 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2014 09:48:00 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.07,539,1413270000"; d="scan'208";a="216767777" Received: from hioexcmbx03-prd.hq.netapp.com ([10.122.105.36]) by mx12-out.netapp.com with ESMTP; 08 Dec 2014 09:48:00 -0800 Received: from HIOEXCMBX03-PRD.hq.netapp.com (10.122.105.36) by hioexcmbx03-prd.hq.netapp.com (10.122.105.36) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.995.29; Mon, 8 Dec 2014 09:47:59 -0800 Received: from HIOEXCMBX03-PRD.hq.netapp.com ([::1]) by hioexcmbx03-prd.hq.netapp.com ([fe80::1c50:4d70:9302:1313%21]) with mapi id 15.00.0995.031; Mon, 8 Dec 2014 09:47:59 -0800 From: "Adamson, Andy" To: Spencer Shepler Thread-Topic: draft-ietf-nfsv4-multi-domain-fs-reqs-00 ready for WGLC Thread-Index: AQHQEw8arlzCYBOZh0GeL7TAY/EiZA== Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 17:47:58 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-mailer: Apple Mail (2.1990.1) x-originating-ip: [10.120.60.34] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-ID: <4009294079841440926E28E01D9CCC34@hq.netapp.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/nfsv4/ZfxdZOo7z147tBmhBMzBEK8zKhk Cc: NFSv4 Subject: [nfsv4] draft-ietf-nfsv4-multi-domain-fs-reqs-00 ready for WGLC X-BeenThere: nfsv4@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: NFSv4 Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 17:48:02 -0000 SGkgU3BlbmNlcg0KDQpBcyBJIGhhdmUgaGFkIG5vIGNvbW1lbnRzIG9uIGRyYWZ0LWlldGYtbmZz djQtbXVsdGktZG9tYWluLWZzLXJlcXMtMDAgd2hpY2ggYWRkcmVzc2VkIHJldmlldyBjb21tZW50 cyBvbiB0aGUgcGVyc29uYWwgZHJhZnQgdmVyc2lvbiwgIEkgYmVsaWV2ZSBkcmFmdC1pZXRmLW5m c3Y0LW11bHRpLWRvbWFpbi1mcy1yZXFzLTAwIGlzIHJlYWR5IGZvciBXR0xDLg0KDQow4oCUPkFu ZHkNCg0KDQo= From nobody Mon Dec 8 10:47:06 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nfsv4@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nfsv4@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45BA51ACD75; Mon, 8 Dec 2014 10:47:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BtpEY8jBsclq; Mon, 8 Dec 2014 10:47:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 458AB1ACD9A; Mon, 8 Dec 2014 10:46:59 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.7.4 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20141208184659.25322.795.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 10:46:59 -0800 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/nfsv4/0C_owjphfVLfTncmsVWs1eIsO4A Cc: nfsv4@ietf.org Subject: [nfsv4] I-D Action: draft-ietf-nfsv4-minorversion2-29.txt X-BeenThere: nfsv4@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: NFSv4 Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 18:47:03 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Network File System Version 4 Working Group of the IETF. Title : NFS Version 4 Minor Version 2 Author : Thomas Haynes Filename : draft-ietf-nfsv4-minorversion2-29.txt Pages : 95 Date : 2014-12-08 Abstract: This Internet-Draft describes NFS version 4 minor version two, describing the protocol extensions made from NFS version 4 minor version 1. Major extensions introduced in NFS version 4 minor version two include: Server Side Copy, Application I/O Advise, Space Reservations, Sparse Files, Application Data Blocks, and Labeled NFS. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-nfsv4-minorversion2/ There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-nfsv4-minorversion2-29 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-nfsv4-minorversion2-29 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Dec 8 10:47:15 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nfsv4@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nfsv4@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76AC71ACD9E; Mon, 8 Dec 2014 10:47:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Dl-5fYACB1zd; Mon, 8 Dec 2014 10:47:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CE031ACDA0; Mon, 8 Dec 2014 10:47:06 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.7.4 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20141208184706.30288.33043.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 10:47:06 -0800 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/nfsv4/T42hXp9NgmU46ymuIIGeAGsru2g Cc: nfsv4@ietf.org Subject: [nfsv4] I-D Action: draft-ietf-nfsv4-minorversion2-dot-x-29.txt X-BeenThere: nfsv4@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: NFSv4 Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 18:47:12 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Network File System Version 4 Working Group of the IETF. Title : NFSv4 Minor Version 2 Protocol External Data Representation Standard (XDR) Description Author : Thomas Haynes Filename : draft-ietf-nfsv4-minorversion2-dot-x-29.txt Pages : 80 Date : 2014-12-08 Abstract: This Internet-Draft provides the XDR description for NFSv4 minor version two. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-nfsv4-minorversion2-dot-x/ There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-nfsv4-minorversion2-dot-x-29 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-nfsv4-minorversion2-dot-x-29 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Dec 22 09:18:04 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nfsv4@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nfsv4@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB8861A1B35; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 09:17:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TARMKKkIolPD; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 09:17:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D7CD1A1B3A; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 09:17:35 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.9.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20141222171735.6100.11971.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 09:17:35 -0800 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/nfsv4/VJ-w8iHvt57vRhGZmbXfXOvKG1U Cc: nfsv4 chair , nfsv4 mailing list , RFC Editor Subject: [nfsv4] Protocol Action: 'Network File System (NFS) Version 4 External Data Representation Standard (XDR) Description' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc3530bis-dot-x-24.txt) X-BeenThere: nfsv4@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: NFSv4 Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 17:17:48 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Network File System (NFS) Version 4 External Data Representation Standard (XDR) Description' (draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc3530bis-dot-x-24.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Network File System Version 4 Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Martin Stiemerling and Spencer Dawkins. A URL of this Internet Draft is: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc3530bis-dot-x/ Technical Summary The Network File System (NFS) version 4 is a distributed filesystem protocol which owes heritage to NFS protocol version 2, RFC 1094, and version 3, RFC 1813. Unlike earlier versions, the NFS version 4 protocol supports traditional file access while integrating support for file locking and the mount protocol. In addition, support for strong security (and its negotiation), compound operations, client caching, and internationalization have been added. Of course, attention has been applied to making NFS version 4 operate well in an Internet environment. This document, together with the companion XDR description document, RFCNFSv4XDR, replaces RFC 3530 as the definition of the NFS version 4 protocol. This document includes updates that address: reported errata, clarifications related to implementation experience, and expanded text included from other sources. Working Group Summary These documents have been very non-controversial given the nature of the included errata and the fact that most of the document updates were drawn from the NFSv4.1 definition. Document Quality The quality of this document is very high. There are multiple implementations of the mandatory features of the protocol and at least one implementation covering most (if not all) optional features. The reason for doing the update was to raise the overall quality through expanded explanatory text and correcting ambiguities. Personnel Document Shepherd is Spencer Shepler (sshepler@microsoft.com). Responsible Area Director is Martin Stiemerling (martin.stiemerling@neclab.eu) RFC Editor Note Please publish this draft (draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc3530bis-dot-x-24) and draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc3530bis-35 together with subsequent RFC numbers. From nobody Mon Dec 22 09:19:30 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nfsv4@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nfsv4@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C251A1B63; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 09:19:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RkvWfQ7I7jZm; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 09:19:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F25CA1A1B77; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 09:19:03 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.9.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20141222171903.32737.28644.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 09:19:03 -0800 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/nfsv4/FOSBtRKSHLXKFo8Pkv4qyww7CR0 Cc: nfsv4 chair , nfsv4 mailing list , RFC Editor Subject: [nfsv4] Protocol Action: 'Network File System (NFS) Version 4 Protocol' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc3530bis-35.txt) X-BeenThere: nfsv4@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: NFSv4 Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 17:19:27 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Network File System (NFS) Version 4 Protocol' (draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc3530bis-35.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Network File System Version 4 Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Martin Stiemerling and Spencer Dawkins. A URL of this Internet Draft is: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc3530bis/ Technical Summary The Network File System (NFS) version 4 is a distributed filesystem protocol which owes heritage to NFS protocol version 2, RFC 1094, and version 3, RFC 1813. Unlike earlier versions, the NFS version 4 protocol supports traditional file access while integrating support for file locking and the mount protocol. In addition, support for strong security (and its negotiation), compound operations, client caching, and internationalization have been added. Of course, attention has been applied to making NFS version 4 operate well in an Internet environment. This document, together with the companion XDR description document, RFCNFSv4XDR, replaces RFC 3530 as the definition of the NFS version 4 protocol. This document includes updates that address: reported errata, clarifications related to implementation experience, and expanded text included from other sources. Working Group Summary These documents have been very non-controversial given the nature of the included errata and the fact that most of the document updates were drawn from the NFSv4.1 definition. Document Quality The quality of this document is very high. There are multiple implementations of the mandatory features of the protocol and at least one implementation covering most (if not all) optional features. The reason for doing the update was to raise the overall quality through expanded explanatory text and correcting ambiguities. Personnel Document Shepherd is Spencer Shepler (sshepler@microsoft.com). Responsible Area Director is Martin Stiemerling (martin.stiemerling@neclab.eu) RFC Editor Note Please publish draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc3530bis-dot-x-24 and this draft (draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc3530bis-35) together with subsequent RFC numbers. From nobody Tue Dec 23 08:11:02 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nfsv4@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nfsv4@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A8D31A90FA for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 08:10:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ta-7Whvg5iON for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 08:10:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-oi0-x233.google.com (mail-oi0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 54A381A90EB for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 08:10:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-oi0-f51.google.com with SMTP id e131so14239050oig.10 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 08:10:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=F90fjjVDIAhw1EBCb37CeADNwGSDMsQcH+5ujnHbScM=; b=LkX9fbSZXFdw0RJscbY4Pw4++RoMYg4ofaO2YYRJQ2J9/v+w4iP+3+FopFB7EN8jOs oFyWRyb83tqcYRgGbnr2GMeqlc0iHDQAZHq5JWTSNaMtRwFMdxY3k/8/gLsExnk8PZ7C QsbyKEqhzimbmTPvpRP9kL7sKlBTNjJl0/+w3f0AT9lJ86IsRyhL7lvwTM8W0hDAg5Py R+5Cdroh1Shc2l3gPJjBwu/n2qnoHj1TGimZHr+BBrVIPmBXRolXrlqUOxBSWXAzkKwb Ky9Ouy+2cK6AOEvCplQV9ebI/pkDF0VdNUweGl/lTyC403Uiv3FNeXlgpHpj/aGNxynx qWIg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.202.219.198 with SMTP id s189mr16003249oig.72.1419351048613; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 08:10:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.5.198 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 08:10:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 11:10:48 -0500 Message-ID: From: David Noveck To: andros@netapp.com, Nico Williams Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113d37da1073df050ae46b5b Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/nfsv4/Y1PSVC_dcBqjgMVGIxhPSc5zGAo Cc: "nfsv4@ietf.org" Subject: [nfsv4] draft-ietf-nfsv4-rpcsec-gssv3-10 X-BeenThere: nfsv4@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: NFSv4 Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 16:10:59 -0000 --001a113d37da1073df050ae46b5b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 This message is to provide my WGLC review of this document. Overall, this document is in good shape. I have a bunch of almost purely editorial issues/corrections which you may find helpful (or annoying) and which are listed below. In the second sentence of the abstract, I suggest adding "support" after "provides" Section 1, "Introduction and Motivation" is well -written but I would suggest that two pages is too long for a section like this. My suggestion for dealing with this is to rename section 1 as something like "Preliminaries" and break it into three subsections as follows:: - An "Introduction" section consisting of the first seven paragraphs. - An "Added Functionality" section from there to the paragraph beginning "this document". - A"XDR Code Extraction" section with the rest. In the second paragraph, suggest: - Replacing "We find that" by "Existing". - Ending the second sentence after "shortcoming". - Beginning a new third sentence with "However, here it is addressed at" - Replace "namely" and the material which follows it by, "i,e. in RPCSEC_GSS. The first bulleted item has a very long line which causes annoyance when you print the pdf. In my case, since I print documents 4-up, the result of this was to cause Adobe reader to decide it should print page 3 in the same font it would use for 16-up printing, i.e, unreadable. In the paragraph beginning "We add" suggest dropping the "We add " and adding "is provided" at the end of the sentence. Suggest replacing the first paragraph of section 2 by the following two paragraphs RPCSEC_GSSv3 is very similar to RPCSEC_GSSv2. The differences are the addition of support for assertions and the fact that channel bindings are supported via a different mechanism. The entire RPCSEC_GSSV3 protocol is not presented here. Only the differences between it and RPCSEC_GSSV2 are shown. Suggest replacing the (old) second paragraph of this section by: The use of RPCSEC_GSSV3 is structured as follows: Section 2.1 has my only comment which is not purely editorial. The issue is that RPCSEC_GSS_BIND_CHANNEL is not "deprecated". It may be eliminated, unsupported, mandatory not to use, or replaced by something else, but if you want it to be "deprecated", you have to deprecate it, and that isn't done. In Section 2.2, I suggest replacing the initial sentence fragment ending in "following:" and the following "The" by the following including a new initial sentence. A new reply verifier is needed for RPCSEC_GSSv3 because of a situation that arise from the use of the same GSS context by child and parent handles. Because the In the second paragraph, replace everything up to the second instance of "the verifier" by the following: This issue is addressed in RPCSEC_GSS version 3 by computing the verifier. For section 2.4, suggest "XDR Code Preliminaries" as a more appropriate section title. Regarding the title of section 2.5, see above, In the second sentence of section 2.6, suggest deleting "each of". It wold be nice if section 2.7.1 were modified so that a new page were not started immediately after the "". In section 2.7.1.2, indented item (b), suggest replacing "the community now agrees" by "there is now general agreement" --001a113d37da1073df050ae46b5b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This message is to provide my WGLC review of this document= .=C2=A0 Overall, this document is in good shape.=C2=A0 I have a bunch of al= most purely editorial issues/corrections which you may find helpful (or ann= oying) and which are listed below.

In the second sentenc= e of the abstract, I suggest adding "support" =C2=A0after "p= rovides"

Section 1, "Introduction and Mo= tivation" is well -written but I would suggest that two pages is too l= ong for a section like this.=C2=A0 My suggestion for dealing with this is t= o rename section 1 as something like "Preliminaries" and break it= into three subsections as follows::
  • An "Introductio= n" section consisting of the first seven paragraphs.
  • An "= Added Functionality" section from there to the paragraph beginning &qu= ot;this document".
  • A"XDR Code Extraction" section wi= th the rest.
In the second paragraph, suggest:
  • Replacing "We find that" by "Existing".
    • <= li>Ending the second sentence after "shortcoming".
  • Beginn= ing a new third sentence with "However, here it is addressed at"<= /li>
  • Replace "namely" and the material which follows it by, &q= uot;i,e. in RPCSEC_GSS.
The first bulleted item has a very lo= ng line which causes annoyance when you print the pdf.=C2=A0 In my case, si= nce I print documents 4-up, the result of this was to cause Adobe reader to= decide it should print page 3 in the same font it would use for 16-up prin= ting, i.e, unreadable.

In the paragraph beginning = "We add" suggest dropping the "We add " and adding &quo= t;is provided" at the end of the sentence.

Su= ggest replacing the first paragraph of section 2 by the following two parag= raphs

RPCSEC_GSSv3 is very similar to RPCSEC_GSSv2= .=C2=A0 The differences are the addition of support for
a= ssertions and the fact that channel bindings are supported via a different = mechanism.

The entire RPCSEC_GSSV3 protocol is n= ot presented here.=C2=A0 Only the differences
between it and RP= CSEC_GSSV2 are shown.

Suggest replacing th= e (old) second paragraph of this section by:

The use of RPCSEC= _GSSV3 =C2=A0is structured as follows:


Section 2.1 has my only comment which is not purely editoria= l.

The issue is that RPCSEC_GSS_BIND_CHANNEL is not "depr= ecated".=C2=A0 It may be eliminated,
unsupported, mandator= y not to use, or replaced by something else, but if you want it to be
=
A new reply verifier is needed for RPCSEC= _GSSv3 because of a situation that arise from the use of the same
GSS context by child and parent handles.=C2=A0 Because the = =C2=A0

In the second paragraph, repl= ace everything up to the second instance of "the verifier" by the= following:

This issue is addressed in RPCSEC_GSS version 3 by= computing the verifier.

For section 2.4= , suggest "XDR Code Preliminaries" as a more appropriate section = title.

Regarding the title of section 2.5, see abo= ve,

In the second sentence of section 2.6, suggest deleting "ea= ch of".

It wold be nice if section 2.7.1 were= modified so that a new page were not started immediately after the "&= lt;CODE BEGINS>".

In section 2.7.1.2, inde= nted item (b), suggest replacing "the community now agrees" by &q= uot;there is now general agreement"


=




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List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 17:54:10 -0000 Hi- It turns out that Linux is the only NFS client that supports RDMA and adds an operation (GETATTR) after WRITE in an NFSv4 compound. Linux sends the part of the compound before the opaque file data via RDMA SEND. The opaque file data is put into the read list. Then the GETATTR operation is put in the read list after the file data. Existing NFS/RDMA servers are able to receive and process this request correctly. First question: does the Linux client comply with RFCs 5666 and 5667 when it sends an NFSv4 WRITE compound in this way, or should it be changed? The intention of RFC 5667 appears to be that the GETATTR belongs inline, following the front of the compound. Only the file data payload belongs in the read list, if NFSv4 Direct is to be consistent with NFSv2 and NFSv3 Now suppose the Linux client is changed to place the GETATTR operation inline, following the front of the compound. When the opaque file data requires round-up because it=92s length is not divisible by four, should there be a pad? if so, where does it belong? To put it another way: Since inline data does not have a =93position=94 field, should the receiver assume that inline content following the read list begins right at the end of the rounded-up chunk? or should the receiver assume the inline content begins at the next XDR position after the end of the chunk? If the former, that would require inserting a zero pad before the inline content. But that pad would cause the following inline content to be sent unaligned, since a zero pad is always shorter than 4 bytes long. By implication, then, the receiver MUST conclude that round-up is present in the case when inline data remains to be decoded (ie, the following inline content always begins at the next XDR position). The sender MUST NOT send a pad inline in this case. Is this correct? I=92ve read RFC 5666 section 3.7. Paragraph 4 seems most relevant, but it doesn=92t discuss the case where there is additional inline content following a chunk list. 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Looking = here in 5661: 22.4.1. Initial Registry The initial registry is in Table 18. +-----------------------+-------+----------+-----+----------------+ | Layout Type Name | Value | RFC | How | Minor Versions | +-----------------------+-------+----------+-----+----------------+ | LAYOUT4_NFSV4_1_FILES | 0x1 | RFC 5661 | N | 1 | | LAYOUT4_OSD2_OBJECTS | 0x2 | RFC 5664 | L | 1 | | LAYOUT4_BLOCK_VOLUME | 0x3 | RFC 5663 | L | 1 | +-----------------------+-------+----------+-----+----------------+ Table 18: Initial Layout Type Assignments 22.4.2. Updating Registrations The update of a registration will require IESG Approval on the advice of a Designated Expert. it seems that this can be done before the RFC is published? I.e., we want this: | LAYOUT4_FLEX_FILES | 0x4 | draft-ietf-nfsv4-flex-files | N | 1 = | What do we need to do to get this assignment?= From nobody Tue Dec 30 11:16:06 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nfsv4@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nfsv4@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 000901A1AB5 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 11:16:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QFfzGUXdW0cQ for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 11:16:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pa0-f51.google.com (mail-pa0-f51.google.com [209.85.220.51]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C4DA41A1A7D for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 11:16:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-pa0-f51.google.com with SMTP id ey11so20024885pad.38 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 11:16:02 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:content-type:subject:message-id:date:to :mime-version; bh=ArDUjzFXB4VWxRZxryNxySYgBpnpgav9PV9DSd9RjyA=; b=WC8EDWS62fZ6W0vLzYgxQqRE/c8N2l7prcyzyatasFoUYN13ehrFBpwDZdA3Qt7kBr 0hd/asNKd8VglvBjQRN3UPkX+KOUYtETOolOHYBpxTfr3Z8m9yQAgpe7oBac9XUKdE/6 2sich/+T73jKfx/xm7Ls3siT2rheNPH7cKzYTQKOEsv2cfTaKme5WFV3ZaIV5CmT/xP7 /y+0EryAVH3tHzNfy8VOtTe+yeU6a2f7/v5R8i6LzHQYWDxQvBF3KdmZuqC2Pcn2WnTR XVaFqsDVX8PhxCy2exI2EX36v2lStZdEA+CRbd43XpZGu6vn/ndDu0OYWzayAfmxWZBc kgpg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQleSCPMgdcQQYCzunbKt/Z/RzNX1ooxB8DPzdzKjTQ65ERh4pnKrxpUM9yd+T4a+SgeZNmO X-Received: by 10.66.65.234 with SMTP id a10mr53076579pat.120.1419966962368; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 11:16:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.30.8.5] ([50.242.95.105]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id nv7sm39114515pbc.29.2014.12.30.11.16.01 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 30 Dec 2014 11:16:01 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Haynes Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_F4C6791B-4BA4-41DA-A905-A331B7382B36" Message-Id: <4FEE90E0-8295-42A8-A32A-2F6DFFC21B58@primarydata.com> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 11:15:59 -0800 To: NFSv4 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.1 \(1993\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1993) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/nfsv4/wpG4AnB41Magcsj_NJ6QM6Feez4 Subject: [nfsv4] Requesting WG LC for draft-ietf-nfsv4-flex-files X-BeenThere: nfsv4@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: NFSv4 Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 19:16:05 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_F4C6791B-4BA4-41DA-A905-A331B7382B36 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Spencer, I thought we were going to add some more text to = draft-ietf-nfsv4-flex-files over the LAYOUTSTATS, but we decided not to. As such, draft version 4 = (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-nfsv4-flex-files-04 = ) is ready = to go as far as I am concerned. Can we start WG LC on it? Thanks, Tom= --Apple-Mail=_F4C6791B-4BA4-41DA-A905-A331B7382B36 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Hi Spencer,

I thought we were going to add some more text = to draft-ietf-nfsv4-flex-files over the LAYOUTSTATS,
but we decided not = to.

As such, draft version 4 (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-nfsv4-flex-files-04)= is ready to go
as far as I am concerned.

Can we start WG LC on = it?

Thanks,
Tom
= --Apple-Mail=_F4C6791B-4BA4-41DA-A905-A331B7382B36-- From nobody Tue Dec 30 17:43:58 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nfsv4@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nfsv4@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1798C1A8A0E for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 17:43:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.301 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.301 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MANGLED_NAIL=2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P2QIa4W8li3r for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 17:43:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-oi0-x22a.google.com (mail-oi0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22a]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3CDD11A8A0D for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 17:43:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-oi0-f42.google.com with SMTP id v63so34312659oia.1 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 17:43:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=wFxAkoSP2Sr48YKlb+Lt6iMynIeQYK9fDCNAaAvd3B8=; b=coyKsXFjGUpiPghHSO7RtNdLO+LmNe9GEh7osCAlgSsb4q6fJOH4EKCQIVamUPf2ty GMuLTag5OlTEhe4GegMNivTQLYsjraoEjkPPqpFW/1Wa8wUTeMpuiS+UAvlpmGFa70ST 9SFwMNLJmFGUYpw9w39bKxUp14w0ujlI9sO3sxckuPlS56t5mDp347EWRiZYe8vrqwSb m6VpFsmrlluOUsu7Iv6lD+xMoucont5ARoadP7Qe0gg8Qb0izKAmuYSMNlwmhxRISQ2L bsAlYoQj+bIVleWzjylsBdDBMRDHdKRH3FuKvl7ADuLofPXU0GdsgIb5K2yCSG5lRznC 7c7Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.173.173 with SMTP id bl13mr37591508oec.8.1419990235513; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 17:43:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.27.198 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 17:43:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4CB2E8A5-8388-4839-B7E4-920AFA65B92C@primarydata.com> References: <4CB2E8A5-8388-4839-B7E4-920AFA65B92C@primarydata.com> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 20:43:55 -0500 Message-ID: From: David Noveck To: Tom Haynes Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e01184cfa928a1d050b793db9 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/nfsv4/l2Nil-cxQeXMUG9bBzhYOpNV5FQ Cc: "nfsv4@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [nfsv4] Requesting a new Layout Type assignment for Flex Files X-BeenThere: nfsv4@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: NFSv4 Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 01:43:58 -0000 --089e01184cfa928a1d050b793db9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > 22.4.2. Updating Registrations I don't think this is relevant to your problem. This covers updates to existing registrations. I think you want to add a new registration, which is covered by: > All assignments to the registry are made on a Standards Action basis, > with Expert Review required. > It seems that this can be done before the RFC is published? Not sure. "Standards Action" makes it sound like it can't, but ... > 3. The Standards Track RFC(s) that describe the notification. If > the RFC(s) have not yet been published, the registrant will use > RFCTBD2, RFCTBD3, etc. instead of an actual RFC number. > Collectively, the RFC(s) must adhere to the guidelines listed in > Section 22.4.3 = . may indicate otherwise. The above may be designed to accommodate documents approved by the IESG, but not yet published, but I'm not sure. Given: > 2. The value of the layout type. IANA will assign this number, and > the request from the registrant will use TBD1 instead of an > actual value. You probably want to start this process as soon as you can. Given that it hasn't been done before, it's hard to know how long it will take. If th= ey think you need to wait for IESG approval, then they'll reject it and you ca= n resubmit it then On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Tom Haynes wrote: > I=E2=80=99m trying to get the flexfile client code into the Linux kernel = and one > review comment > is that we need to nail down the value for LAYOUT4_FLEX_FILES. Looking > here in 5661: > > 22.4.1. Initial Registry > > The initial registry is in Table 18. > > +-----------------------+-------+----------+-----+----------------+ > | Layout Type Name | Value | RFC | How | Minor Versions | > +-----------------------+-------+----------+-----+----------------+ > | LAYOUT4_NFSV4_1_FILES | 0x1 | RFC 5661 | N | 1 | > | LAYOUT4_OSD2_OBJECTS | 0x2 | RFC 5664 | L | 1 | > | LAYOUT4_BLOCK_VOLUME | 0x3 | RFC 5663 | L | 1 | > +-----------------------+-------+----------+-----+----------------+ > > Table 18: Initial Layout Type Assignments > > 22.4.2. Updating Registrations > > The update of a registration will require IESG Approval on the advice > of a Designated Expert. > > > it seems that this can be done before the RFC is published? > > I.e., we want this: > > | LAYOUT4_FLEX_FILES | 0x4 | draft-ietf-nfsv4-flex-files | N | 1 > | > > What do we need to do to get this assignment? > _______________________________________________ > nfsv4 mailing list > nfsv4@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nfsv4 > --089e01184cfa928a1d050b793db9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>=C2=A022.= 4.2.=C2=A0 Updating Registrations

I don't think this is relevant to your problem.=C2=A0 This cover= s updates to existing registrations.

I think you want to add a new= registration, which is covered by:

>=C2=A0All assignments to the registry = are made on a Standards Action basis,
> with Expert Review required.

> It =
seems that this can be done before the RFC is published?

Not sure.  "Standards Action" makes it sound like it can'=
t, but ...

<= div>
> 3.  The=
 Standards Track RFC(s) that describe the notification.  If
>       the RFC(s) have not yet been published, the registrant will use
>       RFCTBD2, RFCTBD3, etc. instead of an actual RFC number.
>       Collectively, the RFC(s) must adhere to the guidelines listed in
>       S=
ection 22.4.3.

may indicate other= wise.=C2=A0 The above may be designed to accommodate
documents ap= proved by the IESG, but not yet published, but I'm not
sure.<= /div>


Given:

> 2. The value= of the layout type. IANA will assign this number, and > the request from the registrant will use TBD1 instead of an > actual value. 

You probably want to start this process as soon as y=
ou can.  Given that
it hasn't been done before, it's hard to know how l=
ong it will take.  If they
think you need to wait for IESG approval, then they&=
#39;ll reject it and you can
resubmit it then

On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 2:= 12 PM, Tom Haynes <thomas.haynes@primarydata.com> wrote:
I=E2=80=99m trying to get the fl= exfile client code into the Linux kernel and one review comment
is that we need to nail down the value for LAYOUT4_FLEX_FILES. Looking here= in 5661:

22.4.1.=C2=A0 Initial Registry

=C2=A0 The initial registry is in Table 18.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0+-----------------------+-------+----------+-----+------------= ----+
=C2=A0 =C2=A0| Layout Type Name=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 | Value | RFC=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 | How | Minor Versions |
=C2=A0 =C2=A0+-----------------------+-------+----------+-----+------------= ----+
=C2=A0 =C2=A0| LAYOUT4_NFSV4_1_FILES | 0x1=C2=A0 =C2=A0| RFC 5661 | N=C2=A0= =C2=A0| 1=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |
=C2=A0 =C2=A0| LAYOUT4_OSD2_OBJECTS=C2=A0 | 0x2=C2=A0 =C2=A0| RFC 5664 | L= =C2=A0 =C2=A0| 1=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |
=C2=A0 =C2=A0| LAYOUT4_BLOCK_VOLUME=C2=A0 | 0x3=C2=A0 =C2=A0| RFC 5663 | L= =C2=A0 =C2=A0| 1=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |
=C2=A0 =C2=A0+-----------------------+-------+----------+-----+------------= ----+

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Table 18: Initial L= ayout Type Assignments

22.4.2.=C2=A0 Updating Registrations

=C2=A0 The update of a registration will require IESG Approval on the advic= e
=C2=A0 of a Designated Expert.


it seems that this can be done before the RFC is published?

I.e., we want this:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0| LAYOUT4_FLEX_FILES=C2=A0 | 0x4=C2=A0 =C2=A0| draft-ietf-nfsv= 4-flex-files | N=C2=A0 =C2=A0| 1=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 |

What do we need to do to get this assignment?
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--089e01184cfa928a1d050b793db9-- From nobody Tue Dec 30 17:49:47 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nfsv4@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nfsv4@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C39AB1A8A10 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 17:49:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.701 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.701 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nkMFArEmcl7T for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 17:49:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ob0-x231.google.com (mail-ob0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C55CA1A8A0D for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 17:49:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ob0-f177.google.com with SMTP id va2so46040831obc.8 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 17:49:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ESrHzy19bLzYsSkKGuj3qRibCIN9B8zMud0/FDg4lKg=; b=fYM2aHZYAoDkHRKnVpVLxm/bnSme6W7Vd3YLbuNy+5vQ8xEHV7EqPakxZ0yTARa+iY UUMqrfx8lMX+8O64leI8Vf9ds/iZ3UXlr/my2Ubk+SmhLZpsNm7VVRJOouBjHBvYZKVl P0+9TPufIeIRu5OIZ+9X+k8YEvJmvtStE/7PdHCKX0HhmSTfICnNgUBcDvSCSQu5WKSt aPGc3VvXDahjl1u5kD5QbSg+QjzuivQeDCRckMyVEAJRKPF+s5iI7oVJFga8CSkGwWA4 +0e11oLzgPzUo0peVJ7Cu9FocJCGtSD9dmtsjJkm/SeI3fuQTnz8PHy7U9dE1DM3GrzA z8aQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.202.54.86 with SMTP id d83mr35912910oia.55.1419990580955; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 17:49:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.27.198 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 17:49:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 20:49:40 -0500 Message-ID: From: David Noveck To: andros@netapp.com, Nico Williams Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113ce1b029911d050b7952a2 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/nfsv4/Ea-flZC5CcUaskm8v-j63zgr3sg Cc: "nfsv4@ietf.org" Subject: [nfsv4] my (partial) review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-multi-domain-fs-reqs-00 X-BeenThere: nfsv4@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: NFSv4 Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 01:49:44 -0000 --001a113ce1b029911d050b7952a2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I have gone through this document and think that it is good work that needs to be published, but there are a few matters that the working group needs to discuss before a more extensive review is useful. So this review is limited to the first sixteen lines of the draft (intended-status, title, abstract). Given that I've found so many things that I don't like in such a short space, my claim that I like this document might seem kind of strange. However, my big issue is that most of this preliminary material doesn't really match the document that we have before us. One or the other has to change and I would much prefer that the preliminary material be changed to match the document body rather than the reverse. BTW, I have no issues with lines 1-2, 4-6, and 9-11, so actually I have only eight lines to review :-) So let's start at line 3, "intended status": I don't see how this document can be standards-track. It does not define a new feature and it is not marked as updating RFC5661 or RFC3530bis. I understand that this document is intended to satisfy the charter item that refers to "constraints and clarifications to the current NFSv4.0 and NFSv4.1 protocols" but the current document isn't written to do that. It is true that the handling of users and groups in RFC5661 and RFC3530bis could use some clarification but I think that is best done in a document solely devoted to that cleanup. My view regarding these matters: - Those sections are written assuming that if the client and server agree on how they handle name and domain everything will out, which is true, but it doesn't even begin to specify how clients and servers might come to agreement on that. - Although the problems are most pressing in the case of multi-domain deployments, there are problems with single-domain deployments as well. Consider the case in which the server is set up to do the appropriate uid-name mapping and the client isn't. In this case, the client will receive name strings it is not prepared to decode. - To really clarify this, you would have to be prepared to rewrite the relevant sections and I don't think anyone is up for that right now. - if you did go down that path, you wold face the issue of required protocol extensions, if not to allow client and server to negotiate appropriate handling, at least to allow client and server to decide whether they match. I don't think that could be done until we have an NFSv4 versioning RFC. This document specifies how one might deploy/administer an NFSv4 namespace that involves multiple domains, and is helpful in that regard. It makes sense to me as an informational RFC. Regarding charter issues, I think we need to focus on clearly saying what needs to be said and what we think people need to understand and leave it to Spencer, Beepy, and Martin to address any purported charter issues. Now Let's go to line 7, the title: A more descriptive title would be "Creation of Multi-domain NFSv4 Namespaces." The words "Requirements for" could be prepended. They don't add anything but they might be helpful in avoiding having to change the file name, which might lead to document management difficulties. We now move from the "Document Title Chainsaw Massacre" portion of our program to the sequel "Document Chainsaw Massacre II, the Abstract". "This document describes constraints" The heart of the problem as I see it is that it seems that the abstract was written to match the charter item, rather than summarizing the document in question. It is not clear what "constraints to the protocols" means and we should clearly say what is done which is to specify constraints to the deployment/administration of the protocols. Any such constraints are a minor part of the Document and should not be mentioned so prominently (with more major item relegated to "as well as"). "to the NFSv4.0 and NFSv4.1 protocols" This is really about all NFSv4 protocols. "as well as the use of multi-domain capable file systems" This is really the heart of the matter. As I understand it, the line of demarcation between this document and the subsequent one is that this one is built assuming the use of multi-domain-capable file systems. "name resolution services, and security services required" Yup. "to fully enable a multiple NFSv4 domain file system," Not clear what "fully enable" means. Also, we are supporting a namespace rather than a filesystem such as a multiple NFSv4 domain Federated File System. call me "old-fashioned" but I have trouble parsing phrases like that which have lots of nouns used as adjectives. So how about the following as a summary of the document: This document describes an approach to the construction of a file system name space supporting use of the NFSv4 protocols and allowing use of multiple NFSv4 domains. This approach involves use of multi-domain capable file systems. Also described are name resolution services and security services as well as administrative constraints appropriate to such a system. Such a namespace is a suitable way to enable a Federated File System supporting the use of multiple NFSv4 domains. --001a113ce1b029911d050b7952a2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have gone t= hrough this document and think that it is good work that needs to be publis= hed, but there are =C2=A0a few matters that the working group needs to disc= uss before a more extensive review is useful. So this review is limited to = the first sixteen lines of the draft (intended-status, title, abstract).=C2= =A0 Given that I've found so many things that I don't like in such = a short space, my claim that I like this document might seem kind of strang= e.=C2=A0 However, my big issue is that most of this preliminary material do= esn't really match the document that we have before us.=C2=A0 One or th= e other has to change and I would much prefer that the preliminary material= be changed to match the document body rather than the reverse.

BTW, I have no issues with lines 1-2, =C2=A04-6, =C2=A0an= d 9-11, so actually I have only eight lines to review :-)

So let's start at line 3, "intended status":
=
I don't see how this document can be standards-track.=C2= =A0 It does not define a new feature and it is not marked as updating RFC56= 61 or RFC3530bis.=C2=A0=C2=A0

I understand that th= is document is intended to satisfy the charter item that refers to "co= nstraints and clarifications to the current NFSv4.0 and NFSv4.1 protocols&q= uot; =C2=A0but the current document isn't written to do that.=C2=A0 It = is true that the handling of users and groups in RFC5661 and RFC3530bis cou= ld use some clarification but I think that is best done in a document solel= y devoted to that cleanup.
My view regarding these matters:
  • Those sections are written assuming= that if the client and server agree on how they handle name and domain eve= rything will out, which is true, but it doesn't even begin to specify h= ow clients and servers might come to agreement on that.
  • Although the problems are most pressing in the case of mult= i-domain deployments, there are problems with single-domain deployments as = well.=C2=A0 Consider the case in which the server is set up to do the appro= priate uid-name mapping and the client isn't.=C2=A0 In this case, the c= lient will receive name strings it is not prepared to decode.
  • To really clarify this, you would have to be prepared= to rewrite the relevant sections and I don't think anyone is up for th= at right now.
  • if you did go down that pa= th, you wold face the issue of required protocol extensions, if not to allo= w client and server to negotiate appropriate handling, at least to allow cl= ient and server to decide whether they match.=C2=A0 I don't think that = could be done until we have an NFSv4 versioning RFC.
=

<= /blockquote>
This document specifies how one might deploy/administer an NFSv= 4 namespace that involves multiple domains, and is helpful in that regard.= =C2=A0 It makes sense to me as an informational RFC.

Regarding charter issues, I think we need to focus on clearly saying = what needs to be said and what we think people need to understand and leave= it to Spencer, Beepy, and Martin to address any purported charter issues.<= /blockquote>

Now Let's go to line 7, the title:
<= div style=3D"font-size:13.3333339691162px">
A more descriptive title would be "Creation of M= ulti-domain NFSv4 Namespaces." =C2=A0The words "Requirements for&= quot; could be prepended.=C2=A0 They don't add anything but they might = be helpful in avoiding having to change the file name, which might lead to = document management difficulties. =C2=A0=C2=A0

We now move from the "Document Title Chainsaw Mass= acre" portion of our program to the sequel "Document Chainsaw Mas= sacre II, the Abstract".

"This document describes const=
raints"

The heart of the problem as I see it is that it =
seems that the abstract was written to match the charter item, rather than =
summarizing  the document in question.  

It is not clear w=
hat "constraints to the protocols" means and we should clearly sa=
y what is done which is to specify constraints to the deployment/administra=
tion of the protocols.

Any such constraints are a minor pa=
rt of the Document and should not be mentioned so prominently (with more ma=
jor item relegated to "as well as").

"to the NFSv4.0 and NFSv4.1 protocols"

This is=
 really about all NFSv4 protocols.

&qu=
ot;as well as the use of multi-domain capable file systems"

This is really the heart of the matter.  As I u=
nderstand it, the line of demarcation between this document and the subsequent one is that this one is built assumi=
ng the use of multi-domain-capable file systems.
= 

"name resolution services, and secur=
ity services required"

Yup.

"to fully enable a multiple NFSv4 domain file system,"

Not clear what "fully enable" means.

Also, we are supporting a namespace rather than a filesystem=C2=A0

<=
font face=3D"arial, helvetica, sans-serif">such as a multiple NFSv4 domain =
Federated File System.

call me "old-fashioned" but I hav= e trouble parsing phrases like that which have lots of nouns used as adjectives.

So how about the following as a summary of the docum=
ent:

This document describes an approa=
ch to the construction of a file system name space supporting use of the NF=
Sv4 protocols and allowing use of multiple NFSv4 domains.  This approach in=
volves use of multi-domain=
 capable file systems.  Also described are name resolution services and security services as w=
ell as administrative constraints appropriate to such a system.  Such a nam=
espace is a suitable way to enable a Federated File System supporting the use of multiple NFSv=
4 domains.


--001a113ce1b029911d050b7952a2-- From nobody Wed Dec 31 04:55:39 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nfsv4@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nfsv4@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE9FB1A8AE5 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2014 04:55:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.301 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.301 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MANGLED_NAIL=2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5E_2iCyGXnil for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2014 04:55:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-oi0-x233.google.com (mail-oi0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F1F761A8AC1 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2014 04:55:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-oi0-f51.google.com with SMTP id h136so2018118oig.10 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2014 04:55:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=OvFsHmxXS2J1cvm9bN0d1e41N7wEJHdp9arGgA4O7bs=; b=Qz9QNnq/Y+HB4h5zhyPkXF2NmeFCiRGCHfF5fgqs6tO7byc2QvyYT7nQBE5zNcGV8G hyAMCbTgq3PRrSkL5HyQF3fXvGzk6Yw0AJP5zobPImTrfvWU7iK6tfOU9M6kE+mHiy1x 9p4TyLd76Q9Vag5wuvs/3wVQEXVXMhC02Ycr12OKK3/T4LB3OHDatzLqPpkXxt/1GPU2 Z0WLFYPSVsKMkYY5N2+qJul10kKrG6340kIoSQzg0PtxQDU2EVlljHhDMYnblhUCFW3k Iqp6UuLHofveH0MFpEo/y3ayCqYuP9X3f4ElivXUZtWn/FJaRcK/d0UHV+xeHB2ofcjf Rz/w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.202.54.86 with SMTP id d83mr37137765oia.55.1420030529201; Wed, 31 Dec 2014 04:55:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.27.198 with HTTP; Wed, 31 Dec 2014 04:55:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4CB2E8A5-8388-4839-B7E4-920AFA65B92C@primarydata.com> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 07:55:29 -0500 Message-ID: From: David Noveck To: Tom Haynes Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113ce1b0436ba0050b829f1f Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/nfsv4/D01ZXNd7JxAy00xCyJxFbEJZvbI Cc: "nfsv4@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [nfsv4] Requesting a new Layout Type assignment for Flex Files X-BeenThere: nfsv4@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: NFSv4 Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 12:55:38 -0000 --001a113ce1b0436ba0050b829f1f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think you want to look at section 2 of RFC 4020, particularly items (a) and (b). On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 8:43 PM, David Noveck wrote: > > 22.4.2. Updating Registrations > > I don't think this is relevant to your problem. This covers updates to > existing registrations. > > I think you want to add a new registration, which is covered by: > > > All assignments to the registry are made on a Standards Action basis, > > > with Expert Review required. > > > > It seems that this can be done before the RFC is published? > > > Not sure. "Standards Action" makes it sound like it can't, but ... > > > > 3. The Standards Track RFC(s) that describe the notification. If > > the RFC(s) have not yet been published, the registrant will use > > RFCTBD2, RFCTBD3, etc. instead of an actual RFC number. > > Collectively, the RFC(s) must adhere to the guidelines listed in > > Section 22.4.3 . > > > may indicate otherwise. The above may be designed to accommodate > documents approved by the IESG, but not yet published, but I'm not > sure. > > > Given: > > > 2. The value of the layout type. IANA will assign this number, and > > the request from the registrant will use TBD1 instead of an > > actual value. > > > You probably want to start this process as soon as you can. Given that > > it hasn't been done before, it's hard to know how long it will take. If = they > > think you need to wait for IESG approval, then they'll reject it and you = can > > resubmit it then > > > On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Tom Haynes > wrote: > >> I=E2=80=99m trying to get the flexfile client code into the Linux kernel= and one >> review comment >> is that we need to nail down the value for LAYOUT4_FLEX_FILES. Looking >> here in 5661: >> >> 22.4.1. Initial Registry >> >> The initial registry is in Table 18. >> >> +-----------------------+-------+----------+-----+----------------+ >> | Layout Type Name | Value | RFC | How | Minor Versions | >> +-----------------------+-------+----------+-----+----------------+ >> | LAYOUT4_NFSV4_1_FILES | 0x1 | RFC 5661 | N | 1 | >> | LAYOUT4_OSD2_OBJECTS | 0x2 | RFC 5664 | L | 1 | >> | LAYOUT4_BLOCK_VOLUME | 0x3 | RFC 5663 | L | 1 | >> +-----------------------+-------+----------+-----+----------------+ >> >> Table 18: Initial Layout Type Assignments >> >> 22.4.2. Updating Registrations >> >> The update of a registration will require IESG Approval on the advice >> of a Designated Expert. >> >> >> it seems that this can be done before the RFC is published? >> >> I.e., we want this: >> >> | LAYOUT4_FLEX_FILES | 0x4 | draft-ietf-nfsv4-flex-files | N | 1 >> | >> >> What do we need to do to get this assignment? >> _______________________________________________ >> nfsv4 mailing list >> nfsv4@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nfsv4 >> > > --001a113ce1b0436ba0050b829f1f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I think you want to look at section 2 of RFC 4020, particu= larly items (a) and (b).

On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 8:43 PM, David Noveck <davenoveck@= gmail.com> wrote:
>=C2=A022.4.2.=C2= =A0 Updating Registrations

= I don't think this is relevant to your problem.=C2=A0 This covers updat= es to existing registrations.

I think you want to add a new regist= ration, which is covered by:

>=C2=A0All assignments to the registry are mad= e on a Standards Action basis,
> wit=
h Expert Review required.

> It seems that this can be =
done before the RFC is published?

Not sure.  "Standards Action&=
quot; makes it sound like it can't, but ...

> 3.  The Standards Track RFC(s) that describe the notification.  If
>       the RFC(s) have not yet been published, the registrant will use
>       RFCTBD2, RFCTBD3, etc. instead of an actual RFC number.
>       Collectively, the RFC(s) must adhere to the guidelines listed in
>       Section 22.4.3.

= may indicate otherwise.=C2=A0 The above may be designed to accommodate
documents approved by the IESG, but not yet published, but I'm no= t
sure.


Given:
= 
 > 2.  Th=
e value of the layout type.  IANA will assign this number, and
 >      the request from the registrant will use TBD1 instead of an
 >     actual value.  

You probably want to start this process as soon as you can.  Given that
it hasn't bee=
n done before, it's hard to know how long it will take.  If they=

think you need to wai=
t for IESG approval, then they'll reject it and you can
resubmit it then<= /div>

On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Tom Hayn= es <thomas.haynes@primarydata.com> wrote:
I=E2=80=99m trying to get the flexfile client c= ode into the Linux kernel and one review comment
is that we need to nail down the value for LAYOUT4_FLEX_FILES. Looking here= in 5661:

22.4.1.=C2=A0 Initial Registry

=C2=A0 The initial registry is in Table 18.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0+-----------------------+-------+----------+-----+------------= ----+
=C2=A0 =C2=A0| Layout Type Name=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 | Value | RFC=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 | How | Minor Versions |
=C2=A0 =C2=A0+-----------------------+-------+----------+-----+------------= ----+
=C2=A0 =C2=A0| LAYOUT4_NFSV4_1_FILES | 0x1=C2=A0 =C2=A0| RFC 5661 | N=C2=A0= =C2=A0| 1=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |
=C2=A0 =C2=A0| LAYOUT4_OSD2_OBJECTS=C2=A0 | 0x2=C2=A0 =C2=A0| RFC 5664 | L= =C2=A0 =C2=A0| 1=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |
=C2=A0 =C2=A0| LAYOUT4_BLOCK_VOLUME=C2=A0 | 0x3=C2=A0 =C2=A0| RFC 5663 | L= =C2=A0 =C2=A0| 1=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |
=C2=A0 =C2=A0+-----------------------+-------+----------+-----+------------= ----+

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Table 18: Initial L= ayout Type Assignments

22.4.2.=C2=A0 Updating Registrations

=C2=A0 The update of a registration will require IESG Approval on the advic= e
=C2=A0 of a Designated Expert.


it seems that this can be done before the RFC is published?

I.e., we want this:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0| LAYOUT4_FLEX_FILES=C2=A0 | 0x4=C2=A0 =C2=A0| draft-ietf-nfsv= 4-flex-files | N=C2=A0 =C2=A0| 1=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 |

What do we need to do to get this assignment?
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--001a113ce1b0436ba0050b829f1f-- From nobody Wed Dec 31 09:44:47 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nfsv4@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nfsv4@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 722A31A039D for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 09:43:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.912 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.912 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RSITCJGCCz5l for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 09:43:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 311661A0381 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 09:43:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id 626C7181C64; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 09:43:39 -0800 (PST) To: shepler@storspeed.com, mike@eisler.com, dnoveck@netapp.com, spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com, mls.ietf@gmail.com, spencer.shepler@gmail.com, beepy@netapp.com X-PHP-Originating-Script: 6000:errata_mail_lib.php From: RFC Errata System Message-Id: <20141230174339.626C7181C64@rfc-editor.org> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 09:43:39 -0800 (PST) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/nfsv4/MpjtdIXc_39ctSxjguTNu1YOA_U X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 09:44:46 -0800 Cc: nfsv4@ietf.org, loghyr@primarydata.com, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [nfsv4] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC5661 (4215) X-BeenThere: nfsv4@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: NFSv4 Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 17:43:42 -0000 The following errata report has been submitted for RFC5661, "Network File System (NFS) Version 4 Minor Version 1 Protocol". -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=5661&eid=4215 -------------------------------------- Type: Editorial Reported by: Tom Haynes Section: 22.1 Original Text ------------- All assignments to the registry are made on a First Come First Served basis, per Section 4.1 of [55]. The policy for each assignment is Specification Required, per Section 4.1 of [55]. Corrected Text -------------- The registry is to be maintained using the Specification Required policy as defined in Section 4.1 of [55]. Notes ----- Found during the IANA Review of 3530bis. Instructions: ------------- This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG) can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. -------------------------------------- RFC5661 (draft-ietf-nfsv4-minorversion1-29) -------------------------------------- Title : Network File System (NFS) Version 4 Minor Version 1 Protocol Publication Date : January 2010 Author(s) : S. Shepler, Ed., M. Eisler, Ed., D. Noveck, Ed. Category : PROPOSED STANDARD Source : Network File System Version 4 Area : Transport Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG