From proto-team-bounces@ietf.org Wed Apr 18 14:32:30 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HeExC-00048L-8V; Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:32:30 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HeExA-00040o-9r; Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:32:28 -0400 Received: from smtp.nokia.com ([131.228.20.171] helo=mgw-ext12.nokia.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HeDHv-0008TA-Lv; Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:45:50 -0400 Received: from esebh105.NOE.Nokia.com (esebh105.ntc.nokia.com [172.21.138.211]) by mgw-ext12.nokia.com (Switch-3.2.5/Switch-3.2.5) with ESMTP id l3IGjixa024648; Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:45:45 +0300 Received: from esebh104.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.21.143.34]) by esebh105.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:45:43 +0300 Received: from mgw-int01.ntc.nokia.com ([172.21.143.96]) by esebh104.NOE.Nokia.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:45:42 +0300 Received: from [192.168.255.2] (essapo-nirac25274.europe.nokia.com [10.162.252.74]) by mgw-int01.ntc.nokia.com (Switch-3.2.5/Switch-3.2.5) with ESMTP id l3IGjeot029478; Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:45:41 +0300 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) To: IESG IESG Message-Id: From: Lars Eggert Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:45:24 +0300 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Apr 2007 16:45:42.0667 (UTC) FILETIME=[00EB85B0:01C781D9] X-eXpurgate-Category: 1/0 X-eXpurgate-ID: 149371::070418194545-581CABB0-4736B85F/0-0/0-1 X-Nokia-AV: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: b280b4db656c3ca28dd62e5e0b03daa8 Cc: proto-team@ietf.org Subject: [proto-team] PROTO template differences X-BeenThere: proto-team@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Process and Tools Team List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0996619676==" Errors-To: proto-team-bounces@ietf.org --===============0996619676== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; boundary=Apple-Mail-73-1039028974; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" --Apple-Mail-73-1039028974 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hi, I just realized that the PROTO writeup templates in draft-ietf-proto- wgchair-doc-shepherding-09 and the one at http://www.ietf.org/IESG/ content/Doc-Writeup.html are different, in that the web page one adds a question to the announcement write-up: Personnel Who is the Document Shepherd for this document? Who is the Responsible Area Director? Is an IANA expert needed? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I don't know where that change originated from, but an answer to that question IMO doesn't make sense to have in the document announcement. Plus, question 1.i already requests information about IANA experts. Can we undo that addition, please? 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charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ proto-team mailing list proto-team@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/proto-team --===============0996619676==-- From proto-team-bounces@ietf.org Wed Apr 18 15:02:04 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HeFPo-0005xy-HX; Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:02:04 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HeFPm-0005xY-E1; Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:02:02 -0400 Received: from corvus.nsf.gov ([198.181.231.29]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HeFPk-00009V-5G; Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:02:02 -0400 Received: from nsf-fe-02.nsf.gov (HELO nsf-fe-02.ad.nsf.gov) ([128.150.4.152]) by corvus.nsf.gov with ESMTP; 18 Apr 2007 15:01:56 -0400 X-SBRS: None Received: from NSF-BE-03.ad.nsf.gov ([128.150.130.228]) by nsf-fe-02.ad.nsf.gov with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:02:14 -0400 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [proto-team] PROTO template differences Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:02:14 -0400 Message-ID: <3E387C1C64088E499E7BF0E86B0E1BF7794225@NSF-BE-03.ad.nsf.gov> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [proto-team] PROTO template differences Thread-Index: AceB5/1/T3scgorqTXiTtZcDGsBtBwAA9Uzw References: From: "Mankin, Allison J" To: "Lars Eggert" , "IESG IESG" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Apr 2007 19:02:14.0408 (UTC) FILETIME=[13940080:01C781EC] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 52e1467c2184c31006318542db5614d5 Cc: proto-team@ietf.org X-BeenThere: proto-team@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Process and Tools Team List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: proto-team-bounces@ietf.org Lars, In the revision of RFC 2434bis, there's a thought of announcing the appointment of any IANA Expert in the Document Announcement. That question does not capture the point, but I think this may be why it is there. Allison -----Original Message----- From: Lars Eggert [mailto:lars.eggert@nokia.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 12:45 PM To: IESG IESG Cc: proto-team@ietf.org Subject: [proto-team] PROTO template differences Hi, I just realized that the PROTO writeup templates in draft-ietf-proto- wgchair-doc-shepherding-09 and the one at http://www.ietf.org/IESG/ content/Doc-Writeup.html are different, in that the web page one adds a question to the announcement write-up: Personnel Who is the Document Shepherd for this document? Who is the Responsible Area Director? Is an IANA expert needed? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I don't know where that change originated from, but an answer to that question IMO doesn't make sense to have in the document announcement. =20 Plus, question 1.i already requests information about IANA experts. Can we undo that addition, please? Lars _______________________________________________ proto-team mailing list proto-team@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/proto-team From proto-team-bounces@ietf.org Thu Apr 19 02:45:45 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HeQOm-0006W2-Ul; Thu, 19 Apr 2007 02:45:44 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HeQOh-0005zI-KP; Thu, 19 Apr 2007 02:45:39 -0400 Received: from smtp.nokia.com ([131.228.20.172] helo=mgw-ext13.nokia.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HeQOg-0001UC-5R; Thu, 19 Apr 2007 02:45:39 -0400 Received: from esebh105.NOE.Nokia.com (esebh105.ntc.nokia.com [172.21.138.211]) by mgw-ext13.nokia.com (Switch-3.2.5/Switch-3.2.5) with ESMTP id l3J6j1E4031386; Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:45:36 +0300 Received: from esebh103.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.21.143.33]) by esebh105.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:45:13 +0300 Received: from mgw-int02.ntc.nokia.com ([172.21.143.97]) by esebh103.NOE.Nokia.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:45:12 +0300 Received: from [172.21.35.232] (esdhcp035232.research.nokia.com [172.21.35.232]) by mgw-int02.ntc.nokia.com (Switch-3.2.5/Switch-3.2.5) with ESMTP id l3J6jAlC024134; Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:45:10 +0300 In-Reply-To: <3E387C1C64088E499E7BF0E86B0E1BF7794225@NSF-BE-03.ad.nsf.gov> References: <3E387C1C64088E499E7BF0E86B0E1BF7794225@NSF-BE-03.ad.nsf.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Message-Id: From: Lars Eggert Subject: Re: [proto-team] PROTO template differences Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:44:54 +0300 To: "ext Mankin, Allison J" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Apr 2007 06:45:12.0423 (UTC) FILETIME=[47A25770:01C7824E] X-Nokia-AV: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 00e94c813bef7832af255170dca19e36 Cc: IESG IESG , proto-team@ietf.org X-BeenThere: proto-team@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Process and Tools Team List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1719254940==" Errors-To: proto-team-bounces@ietf.org --===============1719254940== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; boundary=Apple-Mail-82--1058084323; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" --Apple-Mail-82--1058084323 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On 2007-4-18, at 22:02, ext Mankin, Allison J wrote: > In the revision of RFC 2434bis, there's a thought of announcing the > appointment of any IANA > Expert in the Document Announcement. That question does not > capture the > point, but I think this may be why it is there. Ah. That wasn't clear to me from the text. Maybe replace it with "If the document requires IANA experts, insert 'The IANA Expert(s) for the registries in this document are .'" Or something like that. 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