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Subject: [Raven] Autoreply: raven digest, Vol 1 #169 - 2 msgs

Hallo,

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Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 18:48:55 +0200
Subject: [Raven] Autoreply: raven digest, Vol 1 #168 - 2 msgs

Hallo,

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Mit vielen Grüßen,

Marc Mausch

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Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 07:45:36 -0500 (EST)
From: "P.J. Ponder" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [Raven] SEC surveillance system

(for our international readers and the acronym disadvantaged, 'SEC' is the
US government agency that monitors and regulates financial markets, stock
trading, and other related activities, ostensibly to ensure competition
and to protect the innocent investing public.)

http://live.altavista.com/scripts/editorial.dll?efi=980&ern=y&ei=1642499

SEC Creating Web Surveillance 
03:55EST 

By MARCY GORDON
AP Business Writer 
03/29/00 

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Federal regulators, on the lookout for
phrases such as "get rich quick,'' are creating an automated
surveillance system to search Web sites and message
boards for investment fraud. 

But a major accounting firm says it won't participate because
the Securities and Exchange Commission's new system
might encroach on the privacy of innocent people using the
Internet. 

The technology in the enhanced SEC surveillance program "is
equivalent to, in my opinion, wiretapping ... the equivalent of
planting a bug,'' said Larry Ponemon, a partner in charge of
privacy issues at PricewaterhouseCoopers, one of the world's
largest accounting and consulting firms. 

< . . . . >

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From: Ted Gavin <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Raven] SEC surveillance system
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 07:51:09 -0500
Organization: Zem & Zem Bedding Co, Inc.
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On Wed, 29 Mar 2000 07:45:36 -0500 (EST), you wrote:

[snip...]

>http://live.altavista.com/scripts/editorial.dll?efi=980&ern=y&ei=1642499
>
>SEC Creating Web Surveillance 
>03:55EST 
>
>By MARCY GORDON
>AP Business Writer 
>03/29/00 
>
>[snip...]
>
>The technology in the enhanced SEC surveillance program "is
>equivalent to, in my opinion, wiretapping ... the equivalent of
>planting a bug,'' said Larry Ponemon, a partner in charge of
>privacy issues at PricewaterhouseCoopers, one of the world's
>largest accounting and consulting firms. 

It is deliciously ironic that the noted opposition comes from PWC, a
firm which has been under SEC scrutiny for "questionable ethical
practices" in its Independent Auditing function.

Ted

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Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 13:04:27 -0500 (EST)
From: "P.J. Ponder" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Autoreply: Re: [Raven] Autoreply: raven digest, Vol 1 #168 - 2 msgs (fwd)

Can someone who speaks German contact this person and let him or her know
that their auto-responder is copying the list itself ([email-masked]) with
all of it's outgoing messages?

I tried, and got back an auto-reply in German....

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Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 19:21:14 +0200
From: [email-masked]
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Subject: Autoreply: Re: [Raven] Autoreply: raven digest, Vol 1 #168 - 2 msgs

Hallo,

dies ist eine automatisch generierte Antwort.

Ich bin nun bis 18.April 2000 im Urlaub. Bis dahin kann ich
die Emails leider nicht bearbeiten.

Mit vielen Grüßen,

Marc Mausch

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Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 12:57:04 -0500 (EST)
From: "P.J. Ponder" <[email-masked]>
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Subject: Re: [Raven] Autoreply: raven digest, Vol 1 #168 - 2 msgs

Marc,
you appear to have the auto-reply function copying the Raven list itself.
If you want to create a digest, that is good, but do you think it should
be automatically sent to all the subscribers, whether they have asked for
it or not?
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> Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 07:51:09 -0500
> Organization: Zem & Zem Bedding Co, Inc.
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> >privacy issues at PricewaterhouseCoopers, one of the world's
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