Subject: [stir] International STIR Side-meeting

From: Eric Burger <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 20:59:22 -0400

We held an informal side meeting at the IETF 105 venue to discuss international issues around the deployment of STIR. I had announced the side-meeting to the STIR list as the meeting was mentioned in the ART Area Meeting and the venue had changed, so if people wished to attend they needed to know where to go. This meeting was not part of the IETF meeting and did not discuss any active IETF drafts.

Much of the discussion was educating policy makers attending the Internet Society’s IETF Policymakers' Program <https://www.internetsociety.org/fellowship/ietf-policy-program/>. Twenty-four people from thirteen countries, most from the Western Hemisphere but four individuals from Europe, met to discuss the IETF’s STIR and SIP Forum/ATIS SHAKEN work and progress in their deployment in the USA and Canada.

Most of the countries have or are transitioning to SIP-based networks, and so will be able to support STIR. All countries have multiple providers, some with competitive markets. Some Caribbean countries have joined together and deployed shared infrastructure SIP networks (cloud deployments serving multiple countries).

On the one hand, only one other country (in Europe) besides the USA and Canada said that illegal robocalls are a problem. On the other hand, people that today do not have an illegal robocall problem realized the Bear Problem <https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/402859-you-don-t-have-to-run-faster-than-the-bear-to>. One of the delegates said something along the lines, “My goodness - if you shut off the robocalls to the USA and Canada, they will come for us next!”

As this was an informal meeting, there are no formal plans for follow-up at this time.