Subject: [tsvwg] TSVWG Status Summary October 2014

From: Gorry Fairhurst <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 14:29:32 +0000

The list below shows the status of the working group documents as we see 
it. Please check below and comment on drafts using the list. Please do 
send any corrections/omissions to the chairs.

Gorry, David & James
(TSVWG Chairs)
October 2014

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Document recently published:

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IDs in RFC Editor Queue (http://www.rfc-editor.org/queue.html) :

draft-ietf-tsvwg-rsvp-pcn - Document Shepherd: David

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IDs in IESG processing:
draft-ietf-tsvwg-sctp-prpolicies - PS - Document Shepherd: Gorry
Replaces: draft-tuexen-tsvwg-sctp-prpolicies
Nov 2013, Adopted SCTP PR Polices intended for publication as a PS RFC
March 2014, Next revision expected for WGLC.
Gorry read 20-May-2014, needs to be PS, explain Info section in wrietup
Revised ID May 2014.
1-Jul-2014 Gorry reviewed standards language
WGLC started to end July 21st, 2014
- support JHS, KN, MB, IR, GF; comments from Karen Nielson, Brian 
Bidulock, Gorry
Note: the socket API stuff, which is informational, is completely 
implemented in FreeBSD and will be released in FreeBSD 10.1
Revised ID after WGLC
All Authors responded to IPR check.
WG Shepherd write-up 27th Oct 2014

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New proposed work:
draft-eggert-tsvwg-rfc5405bis (adoption request soon)
draft-geib-tsvwg-diffserv-intercon-02.txt (next version expected to be 
called for adoption)

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WG Drafts with Chairs:
draft-ietf-tsvwg-sctp-dtls-encaps - PS - Document Shepherd: Gorry
Replaces: draft-tuexen-tsvwg-sctp-dtls-encaps-01
WG adopted 13/12/2013. Support {AB, IR, SL, MB, TD}
[Milestone: Jan 2014, PS] Implemented in Firefox (FF21).
Required by RTCweb. Comments received.
WGLC ended 28th February 2014.
Comments from Joe Touch (draft updated)
Review comments and revised ID published.
Eric Rescorla has reviewed this.
WAITING: Waiting for one author (R. Jesup) to confirm IPR
DUE: Security input needed to determine text describing DTLS version and 
how to deal with DTLS versioning.

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draft-ietf-tsvwg-port-use - Document Shepherd: Gorry
Replaces: draft-touch-tsvwg-port-use-00
- Intended to be advice to protocol designers needing a port.
5 people looked at this document, Prague IETF-80
Individual -01 July 2011
IETF-81 insufficient feedback from WG at this time.
IETF-82, discussed.
Adopted by WG Presented IETF-86, March 2013
Milestone updated to June 2014
Mar 2014, Chairs WGLC to be started after current WG actions.
- IANA review comments received
- Sent review requests to RAI, APPS, and SEC areas during 1st WGLC.
+ Comments May 2014: Paul Hoffman; Lars Eggert; IANA; David Black;
5 Jun 2014, WGLC completed - comments received.
Revised ID after WGLC; Elliot OK with changes;
DUE:  Working Group Last Call for comments 14/10/2014, due to conclude 
29/10/2014

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draft-ietf-tsvwg-sctp-failover - Document Shepherd: James (backup 
shepherd: gorry)
Replaces: draft-nishida-tsvwg-sctp-failover
Individual-00 Presented in Prague, IETF-80.
- Understood not to conflict with draft-tuexen-tsvwg-sctp-multipath
- PF has been implemented in FreeBSD; Linux SCTP implements partially, 
that they intend to implement full support and have no comments to the 
technical solution; Ericsson have an implementation;
Adopted by WG 26/6/2012. [Milestone: Jul 2013, EXP]
Thought ready for WGLC, four people volunteered to review.
Review done by GF with a view to the milestone becoming PS.
++ Committed reviewers : Michael Tuexen (more if possible)
Milestone update request to AD/IESG sent Oct 2014
Due: WGLC to be started in Nov 2014.

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WG Drafts
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draft-ietf-tsvwg-rsvp-app-id-vv-profiles
Replaces: draft-polk-tsvwg-rsvp-app-id-vv-profiles
-01 Presented in Beijing, IETF-79.
-02, 14-Mar-2011
Presented IETF-80.
Seek to coordinate with music with partner ID:
draft-polk-mmusic-traffic-class-for-sdp
Gorry liaised with MMUSIC WG Chairs on companion draft (norm ref from 
this tsvwg draft).
Adopted as a TSVWG work item, December 2013, [Milestone Jul 2013].
This will update a RFC 2872 (PS).
Presented at IETF-86,
Mar 2013 (no comments)
Expected ready for WGLC (waiting on MMUSIC)
DUE: Reviewers are needed to prepare for a WGLC
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draft-ietf-tsvwg-sctp-ndata - PS
- replaces: draft-stewart-tsvwg-sctp-ndata-03 Nov 2013,
Adopted , intended for publication as a PS RFC
Mar 2014, 5-6 people had read.
Named changed proposed at IETF-90 (Interleaved data?) and clarification 
of use-case.
DUE: Revised ID needed.
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draft-tsvwg-gre-in-udp-encap - PS Document Shepherd: David
- replaces: draft-yong-tsvwg-gre-in-udp-encap
Dec 2013, Adopted , intended for publication as a PS RFC
Feb 2014, discussion of scope and applicability of circuit breakers
Mar 2014 consider MUST implement, SHOULD use in these environments for CB
DUE: Revised ID needed to address congestion control and UDP Zero 
Checksum for IPv6.  Revised text has been developed for MPLS-in-UDP 
draft, but needs adaptation and generalization for GRE (vs. MPLS).
DUE: Revised ID expected for Honolulu with initial adaptation - expect 
to discuss generalization in meeting.
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draft-ietf-tsvwg-rtcweb-qos - PS - Document Shepherd: David
- Replaces: draft-dhesikan-tsvwg-rtcweb-qos
- RTCweb and QoS Markings
- Authors requested TSVWG adoption.
- Who has read the draft? (lots 10's of people)
25-Mar-2014, Adopted by tsvwg
- Who thinks it is important to do work in the IETF? (Many)
I-D updated after initial TSVWG feedback
Mar 2014, Adoption call (strong support in WG meeting London)
Adoption call concluded 24 Match 2014: intended as a PS RFC for Sept 2014
++ Magnus agreed to review this.
Early OPS-Dir review received from Fred Baker.
Oct 2014, DART draft (draft-ietf-dart-dscp-rtp): IETF LC completed, now 
in IESG evaluation.
DUE: Please comment on list, and see DART draft as related material.
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draft-ietf-tsvwg-circuit-breaker - Document Shepherd: TBD
Call for WG adoption issued - August 2014, adopted 28th Aug.
Milestone set - Oct 2014 (by David Black)
DUE: Please comment on list

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Expired WG documents:

draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-encap-guidelines - Document Contact: Gorry
replaced draft-briscoe-tsvwg-ecn-encap-guidelines
-00 Presented in Prague, IETF-80.
- comments at IETF-80 (see minutes)
New ID presented in Atlanta, IETF-85. ID presented in IETF-88,89
++ forward an appropriate message (perhaps your note to the mailing list 
for approval to adopt) to [email-masked])
++ Reviewers: Andrew McGregor, Dirk Kutscher, Richard Scheffnegger, 
Brian Tramwell.
Mar 2014, WG Call for adoption started, to end 4th March 2014
19 for, 1 against. 8 echoed on the list
Adoption call concluded and document adopted.
* ecn-encap-guidelines and AQM are the main new things they need to know 
about.
on <http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/train-3.html>IEEE802.1Q)
DUE: Please comment on list.
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draft-ietf-tsvwg-intserv-multiple-tspec - Document Shepherd: David
WG interest in this topic recorded at IETF-78.
Charter update needed to progress this work.
5 Reviews needed to determine energy/technical direction.
WG -05 (presented in Beijing, IETF-79)
WG -06 (presented in Prague, IETF-80)
2 reviews from RSVP-DIR received (Bruce Davie, ?)
2 additional reviews promised (Ken Carlberg, Francois LeF)
Chairs asked AD for a Charter update (IESG agreed)
Draft discussed at IETF-80, and request to update charter agreed
- AD advised 4 named reviewers will be required
Adopted for progression as PS, for May 2012
- New name: 'RSVP Multiple Instance'.
Draft is now expired and dead.
DUE: Draft authors will request replacement with 
draft-polk-rsvp-multi-instance-object (and WG adoption of that draft in 
Honolulu, IETF-91)
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draft-ietf-tsvwg-natsupp - Document Shepherd: James
Replaces: draft-stewart-natsupp-tsvwg
Dependency from BEHAVE WG.
Adopted as a work item 21 Sept 2010 (Gorry).
WG -00, 29/11/2010 Uploaded as: draft-ietf-natsupp-tsvwg
Authors restructured draft (-03)
Added support for single and multi-homed support.
IETF-86: 3 people in meeting had read -04 or -05.
Feb 2014, Authors please update following comments and align to related 
draft on SCTP NAT (conflicts found in language)
Authors expected to produce a single document to replace both.
++ Dan Wing has committed to review this.
++ Fred Baker has committed to review this.
Chairs: We plan to start a WGLC, but are expecting this document to be 
restructured and merged with draft-ietf-tsvwg-sctpnat
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draft-ietf-tsvwg-sctpnat - Document Shepherd: Gorry
Will replace: draft-ietf-behave-sctpnat-03.txt Adopted Nov 2013.
Former BEHAVE WG work item that defines SCTP NAT support
Feb 2014, Authors please update following comments and align to related 
draft on SCTP NAT (conflicts found in language)
Chairs: - authors have requested a single document to replace both.
++ Fred Baker will review next version.
Separated the simpler case for single-homed use - this separation should 
be clearer
Chairs: We plan to start a WGLC, but are expecting this document to be 
restructured and merged with draft-ietf-tsvwg-sctpnat
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draft-ietf-tsvwg-behave-requirements-update - Document Shepherd: David
Replaces: draft-ietf-behave-requirements-update-00
Nov 2013, Former BEHAVE WG work item intended for publication as a BCP
Mar 2014, Irene R reviewed this and found no conflict with SCTP drafts.
Some suggestions (in no particular order) for a shepherd:
++ Dave Thaler, may review, as former behave co-chair
++ David Harrington, has been around in behave, and he knows how to do 
this and volunteered multiple times.
++ Ask Jana to review this.
++ Dan has committed to review this.
Chairs: Check intention and planned timeline.
DUE: Please comment on list
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The following have received recent discussion at TSVWG meetings or on
the list. Inclusion in the list below does not indicate support for
these specific drafts and other contributions are also warmly welcomed.
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Authors request to be considered for adoption
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draft-geib-tsvwg-diffserv-intercon - Document Contact: David
DiffServ interconnection classes
New ID presented in Atlanta, IETF-85.
ID presented in Orlando, IETF-86, Mar 2013. Mar 2014, intended scope 
unclear at IETF London Adoption call to be considered, but scope needs 
to be first refined and a revised draft is necessary to avoid 
implications of broader applicability.
July 2014 - ID presented in Toronto. Strong hum of support to work on 
this, but a revised draft is needed first.
DUE: revised draft required, WG adoption call expected on that next version.
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draft-eggert-tsvwg-rfc5405bis
- Individual (Gorry & Lars)
Mar 2014, the ADs proposed the WG re-open the UDP Guidelines RFC for 
update to include this work and other topics.
The authors of both drafts agreed to progress this work.
NOTE: Update milestone in charter, if adopted: ‘Multicast UDP 
Guidelines’ is being incorporated in this.
Presented IETF-90, Hum supporting adoption, none against.
++ Brian Tramwell and Jana agreed to review this.
Chairs:Adoption call to be started on list.
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draft-wing-tsvwg-turn-flowdata-00.txt
- Individual (no decision to adopt at this time)
- QoS-aspects to be discussed in tsvwg (thought to also be relevant to 
TURN WG)
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draft-wei-tsvwg-tunnel-congestion-feedback
- Thought to fall within TSVWG charter
--- draft-lai-tsvwg-normalizer
- Thought to fall within TSVWG charter
- Presented IETF-88 ---
draft-ohanlon-rmcat-dflow
Discussed at IETF-84, Vancouver
This draft is related to the new rmcat work.
Comments received on list prior to IETF-85. Comments IETF-90.
Authors request WG adoption at IETF-90
Request for people to read this ID, need more review comments.
DUE: Revised ID needed
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draft-ietf-aqm-ecn-benefits
replaces draft-welzl-ecn-benefits, Individual (Michael Welzl)
- Thought to be within tsvwg or aqm WGs.
- Has been adopted as a work item in AQM, may be WGLC'ed in both.
- Please discuss on AQM WG List
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