Subject: Fw: Nortel Networks Statement on IPR claimed in draft-ietf-ccamp-loose-path-reopt-00.txt

From: "Adrian Farrel" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:52:43 +0100

Please see below a response from the Counsel for Nortel Networks with
regard to my enquiry about their IPR disclosure for
draft-ietf-ccamp-loose-path-reopt-00.txt.

The working group must now decide whether it wishes to pursue the
techniques described in the I-D notwithstanding the IPR claim, or whether
it should seek out an alternative technology.

Discussion please.

Thanks,
Adrian
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michelle Lee" <[email-masked]>
To: "Adrian Farrel" <[email-masked]>
Cc: "'Kireeti Kompella'" <[email-masked]>; "Richard Weiss"
<[email-masked]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 5:54 PM
Subject: RE: Nortel Networks Statement on IPR claimed in
draft-ietf-ccamp-loose-path-reopt-00.txt

> Dear Mr. Farrel,
>
> Thank you for your email.
>
> Unfortunately, I am not in a position to answer these questions
> specifically, especially since they would require my providing
privileged
> and/or confidential information. We believe, however, our intentions are
> clearly set forth in and by our conforming disclosure and declaration
> statement to IETF with respect to IETF Internet Draft
> draft-ietf-ccamp-loose-path-reopt-00.txt, and that experts in the area
can
> probably better determine relevance of the identified patent therein.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Michelle Lee
> Counsel, IP Law
> Nortel Networks
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Adrian Farrel [mailto:[email-masked]]
> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 4:32 PM
> To: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
> Cc: 'Kireeti Kompella'; [email-masked]
> Subject: Nortel Networks Statement on IPR claimed in
> draft-ietf-ccamp-loose-path-reopt-00.txt
>
>
>
> Dear Richard and Michelle,
>
> Thank you for submitting your Patent Disclosure
> (
>
<http://www.ietf.org/ietf/IPR/nortel-ipr-draft-ietf-ccamp-loose-path-reopt
-0
> 0.txt>
http://www.ietf.org/ietf/IPR/nortel-ipr-draft-ietf-ccamp-loose-path-reopt-00
> .txt)
> with respect to IETF Internet Draft
> draft-ietf-ccamp-loose-path-reopt-00.txt.
>
> I would be grateful if you could clarify two points to help me
understand
> this discolsure further.
>
> 1. The disclosure states that:
>      Nortel Networks U.S. Patent No. 6,560,654 entitled "Apparatus and
>      method of maintaining timely topology data within a link state
routing
>      network" may contain claims that may be necessary for practicing a
>      resulting IETF Standard based on this Internet Draft.
>   Could you provide more detail about what aspects of
>   draft-ietf-ccamp-loose-path-reopt-00.txt you believe may be impacted
by
>   this disclosure?
>
> 2. Can you clarify whether the "fair, reasonable, reciprocal, and
>    non-discriminatory terms" referenced in the disclosure include the
>    intention, in the event that the referenced draft becomes an Internet
>    Standard, not to assert the patent except that some party asserts a
> patent
>    patent it owns or controls against Nortel?
>    By way of an example of wording that covers this intention, can I
draw
>    your attention to a completely unrelated IPR disclosure at
>
<http://www.ietf.org/ietf/IPR/cisco-ipr-draft-ietf-tcpm-tcpsecure.txt>
> http://www.ietf.org/ietf/IPR/cisco-ipr-draft-ietf-tcpm-tcpsecure.txt
>
> Thank you for any clarification you are able to offer.
>
> Please note that I am copying this email to Kireeti Kompella who
co-chairs
> the IETF's CCAMP working group with me. The CCAMP working group
developed
> the Internet-Draft in question
(draft-ietf-ccamp-loose-path-reopt-00.txt)
> and so I am also copying this email to the CCAMP mailing list.
>
> Best regards,
> Adrian Farrel
> --
> Adrian Farrel
> Old Dog Consulting
> Phone: +44 (0) 1978-860944
> Fax: +44 (0) 870-130-5411
> [email-masked] <mailto:[email-masked]>
>
>
>
>