Subject: [edu-team] Fwd: Draft minutes of EDU telecon

From: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:46:11 -0500

Please send Paul any comments/corrections/additions.

thanks
a.

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> From: Paul Hoffman / VPNC <[email-masked]>
> Date: 11 januari 2005 12.22.00 GMT-05:00
> To: [email-masked]
> Subject: Draft minutes of EDU telecon
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> Feel free to edit or not, and send to the list.

Thank you.

> --Paul
Folks attending
	Paul Hoffman
	Radia Perlman
	Avri doria
	James Kempf
	Scott Bradner
	Susan Harris
	Harald Alvestrand
	Spencer Dawkins
	Mirjam Kuehne

Notes: Paul Hoffman

o Harald wants to send out message about change in EDU team lead
	Will do so

o Status of new classes in preparation
	Area topics -- Radia
		- Ideas for topics:
			Routing and bridging
				Problems with scalability
               Could be specifically useful to L2VPN, L3VPN, PWE3, and 
other WGs
               Open to all
			Management
				Bert could do it, but not at this IETF
               Discuss for IETF63
			Network protocols in general
				What happens at what layer
		
		- Want to get this information on the registration form
            Too late for this time.  Must arrange to do it before 
announcement
                goes out for an IETF meeting
		- People generally agreed we want to start with "Routing and bridging"
			Need to figure out how to advertise it
           Will speak to secretariat about including a link on
             http://www.ietf.org/meetings/IETF-62.html pointing to a 
page that
             describes the classes
	- Bringing new work to the IETF
		The topic is somewhat controversial
		Can cause lots more work for WG chairs and the IESG
		It should be vetted because it is so sensitive
		Maybe we should do this at the Wednesday session
		Scott, Spencer, Paul volunteer
		Avri has done a presentation that she can send
		Probably will be WG lunch in Paris
	- Overview of network protocols in general
        Plan for the future
		Radia will start, Paul and Scott will help

o IETF62 planning - who is teaching what
	Planning
		Have a page that lets people indicate that they are interested
			in classes.  This needs to be arranged before announcement
            for the meeting goes out.
		Sending out a message to all registered
			Secrerariat is worried that it would be considered spam
		Send message to ietf and ietf-announce
		Avri will coordinate with the Secretariat for IETF63
	Newcomers
		Scott will do it
	Security
		Should this be rotating?
		Many thought no, other thought ok
		Radia thinks we could rotate it
	Discussed combining WG chairs and editors training into a class of
        working group Leadership
	Slot 1:
		a. Newcomers by Scott
		b. WG leadership by Paul and Spencer
	Slot 2:
		a. Routing and bridging by Radia
		b. RFC Editor on RFC editing
	         RFC Editor slot is a one-time thing
		      Avri will talk to them
		      Need to think about how we want to integrate it into EDU

o Chair's lunch topic
	Margaret has offered to lead it
	Topic ideas
		AdminRest -- some people thought it was a bad idea
		We will send a message to WG chairs with ideas

o Open EDU session
	Minneapolis or Paris?
	Will do it in Paris
	Gets a regular time slot
	
o IETF Newsletter planning
	People met at DC
	Mirjam hasn't had time to work on it
	Should come out 4-8 weeks after an IETF
	How to recruit volunteers to watch at Minneapolis
		People will cover big topics, not just WGs
	Difficult to get commitments
	Avri will help with planning
	Susan will help with editing

o Other activities
	Editor's mailing list
		Paul will take to EDU mailing list
	IETF63 Newcomers in French
		People liked the idea in Korea
		How do we find the presenter?
			Suggest volunteers on the EDU list
			Want to choose before Minneapolis
		In Korea, the English slide deck was used
	Tao
		We really want to get to newcomers a few weeks before the meeting
		Avri will send message to Secretariat, will first ask EDU list
             this will be tied to the course announcement.
  	When will we get together at Minneapolis?
		Avri will ask now so we can pre-plan
		Sunday night after the reception was suggested

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