Subject: [edu-team] Notes from EDU team call - 19 April 2018

From: Karen O'Donoghue <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 16:00:59 +0000

Folks,

Below are some draft notes from today’s EDU team call (thanks Niels!). Thanks to all who participated. Specific asks for folks on this mailing list:

- Review and comment on the new Newcomer’s Tutorial from IETF 101 (Mirjam will be sending another email about this - we will be making some incremental improvements including supplementing the speaker notes or writing a separate script - this is to balance the need to produce better (less wordy) slides but still provide a useful resource for as a standalone product and for non-native English speakers)

- Suggestions for tutorials going forward (IETF 103 and beyond)

- Look at the IETF main website EDU related materials and think about organization and content. We need to revisit that. We didn’t get to it today, but we will want to work on this further. Anyone willing to help, please speak up!

Thanks all,
Karen and Mirjam

EDU Team meeting -- 19 April 2018 -- 1400 UTC
Present:
    Karen O'Donoghue (Chair), Mirjam Kuehne, Rich Salz, Alexa Morris, Niels ten Oever (notes), and Greg Wood (joined late)

Wiki: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/edu/

Agenda

Administrivia:
- EDU Team Wiki Workspace: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/edu/wiki/EduTeamWorkSpace (do we want to use this - setup and never used)

  *   - Discussion about what we put where, will be done via email and in the EDU DIR call.

Naming scheme or index for etherpad

  *   - For now we will just this for notes during call:

  *   https://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/p/EDU

IETF 101 Tutorials Review
-- Any comments or feedback on IETF 101 tutorials?
-- Survey results? (can we simplify the survey)

  *   - There are very few responses to the surveys, overal feedback was positive. A bit more lightly attended than normal.

  *   - Send email reminder about surveys early in IETF week

-- Any feedback on new Newcomer's Tutorial?

  *   - General feedback was good, someone mentioned there should be more interaction.

Plans for IETF 102
-- Possible tutorials for IETF 102 and beyond (selections and POCs identified)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hU9CRsoGUtYGp9Dy8HxgOZoUxYoZSIYqO1IiE0weqcA/edit#gid=1462811485
-- Do we want different times for tutorials?

  *   -- It is an issue that tutorials take place together with the hackathon

  *   -- Hard to think of another time

-- Mirjam asks Benoit Claese for YANG
-- Mirjam: Asks Spencer Dawkins for New Work in the IETF
-- Karen: Asks Alice and Paul for XML2RFC
-- Rich will do the newcomers tutorial with a partner in crime
-- Karen: asks Stephen Farrell and/or Kathleen Moriarty to do security area overview
-- Karen: coordinate with Suresh and Ran/Saleem on Identifier Locator Network Protocol (ILNP)

IETF 103 and Beyond...
-- SDN, NFV, etc...
-- Next up in the Area Overviews (OPS?)
-- Presentation skills (?)

-- Short review and update for Newcomer's Tutorial, presenters for IETF 102
Mirjam takes the lead on Newcomer Tutoial slides review and update.

-- Session requests for IETF 102 (with accompanying tool update)
-- Process for requesting tutorial slots for additional tutorials (discussion)
Karen: Got skipped in meeting... Karen will discuss with Alexa/IESG

Newcomer's Webinar
-- IETF 101 Review -- seemed to go pretty well, plan for 2 for IETF 102
-- Plans for IETF 102 (timeline and panelists)
-- Karen: work on scheduling further in advance
-- Alexa: help make sure it gets into the Newcomer's emails

WG Chairs Forum
-- Feedback for IETF 101 (went well, special thanks to Stephanie and Alexa)
-- Topics for IETF 102
Bootstrapping WG activity in GitHub
Best practices and experiences in using Github in working groups

  *   - Tools team integration

  *   - WG use -> websites, tickets, notifications, naming conventions?

  *   - Building of drafts -> Travis/Cirle

WG Chairs training (if design team has made sufficient progress)

WG Chairs Training Materials
-- Design Team setup
-- Karen will ask for more volunteers for this work and set up the design team

EDU portions of IETF Website
Discussion moved to EDU DIR call
-- Review of current structure (any feedback received so far, anything we want to change)
-- Which tutorials should be identified on the main website? (all available through proceedings)
-- Maintenance of current structure (who does what)

Mentoring for IETF 102 (if time permits)
Will discussed by Karen, Wes and Niels

AOB

Action Item Summary:

Alexa: Get attendance numbers for tutorials from Stephanie.
Mirjam: Continues improvement and feedback on newcomers slides, and speaker notes with the group of people that volunteered to do the presentations and slldes
Mirjam: Asks Benoit Claese for YANG tutorial
Mirjam: Asks Spencer Dawkins for New Work in the IETF
Karen: Asks Alice and Paul for XML2RFC
Karen: coordinate with Suresh and Ran/Saleem on Identifier Locator Network Protocol (ILNP)
Rich: will do the newcomers tutorial and find a partner in crime to do that with (who is newer to EDU)
Alexa will look at the status of Github discussion in IESG
Karen to find time slots for webinars before IETF 102
Karen: ask for volunteers for WG Chairs Training Materials