Subject: Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-extractor (Keying Material

From: Martin Rex <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:48:48 +0200 (MEST)

The Certicom IPR disclosure says that their patent claims cover
pretty much all of the TLS documents when TLS is used with ECC Crypto.

You're constantly arguing that Certicoms patent claims *APPLY*
to TLS extractors -- which it is not, and which no one from
Certicom seems to claim.  

The difference between "covers" and "applies" is, that the
TLS extractors technology does not, by itself, infringe on any of
the patent claims in their patents--otherwise, there would not be
the precondition with the use of ECC crypto.

-Martin