Subject: RE: foglamps BOF and mailing list (fwd)

From: Thomas Eklund <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 11:12:55 +0100

Sorry if I dont understand but isn't end-2-end == IPv6 ??

/Thomas

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sam Manthorpe [mailto:[email-masked]]
> Sent: Friday, March 03, 2000 2:51 AM
> To: [email-masked]
> Subject: foglamps BOF and mailing list (fwd)
> 
> 
> 
> For those who aren't on end2end-interest:
> 
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> > From [email-masked] Thu Mar  2 17:37:52 2000
> > From: [email-masked]
> > Message-ID: <E39024226822D311BC880008C77318A1C52140@oteis01nok>
> > To: [email-masked], [email-masked], [email-masked]
> > Cc: [email-masked]
> > Subject: foglamps BOF and mailing list
> > Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 17:30:51 -0600 
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> > It has been recognized for some time that breaking
> > the end-to-end model through the introduction of elements
> > like network address translators causes serious problems 
> > in IP networks, and the IETF has had ongoing discussions
> > of those problems with an eye towards solving them.  What
> > is probably not fully appreciated, however, is the extent
> > to which NAT and firewall-related problems are interfering 
> > with the deployment of major applications, such as the
> > migration from circuit-based to packet-based telecommunications 
> > networks.  Some of us are beginning to suspect that it may 
> > be time to bite the bullet and make certain network elements 
> > visible to applications by creating explicit external interfaces.
> > 
> > To that end, we've requested a BOF session ("foglamps") for 
> > the upcoming meeting in Adelaide, and have created a foglamps 
> > mailing list on egroups.com (sorry).  To subscribe, send
> > email to [email-masked] or use the web-based
> > interface at http://www.egroups.com.
> > 
> > Background reading would include:
> > 	draft-lear-foglamps-01.txt
> > 	draft-shore-h323-firewalls-00.txt
> > 	draft-rosenberg-sip-firewalls-00.txt
> > 	RFC 2775
> > 	draft-iab-ntwlyrws-over-02.txt
> > 
> > I'll send along an agenda as soon as it's finalized.
> > 
> > Melinda
> > -- 
> > Melinda Shore
> > Nokia IP Telephony
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