
From martin.vigoureux@alcatel-lucent.com  Mon Jul  2 02:59:37 2012
Return-Path: <martin.vigoureux@alcatel-lucent.com>
X-Original-To: l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E9211E808A for <l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon,  2 Jul 2012 02:59:37 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -108.949
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-108.949 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.700, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, J_CHICKENPOX_13=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2gxPAiz8fboP for <l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon,  2 Jul 2012 02:59:37 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from smail6.alcatel.fr (smail6.alcatel.fr [64.208.49.42]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DDBB11E8085 for <l3vpn@ietf.org>; Mon,  2 Jul 2012 02:59:36 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from FRMRSSXCHHUB03.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com (FRMRSSXCHHUB03.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com [135.120.45.63]) by smail6.alcatel.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/ICT) with ESMTP id q629xSUR015881 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT); Mon, 2 Jul 2012 11:59:39 +0200
Received: from [172.27.205.189] (135.120.57.7) by FRMRSSXCHHUB03.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com (135.120.45.63) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.213.0; Mon, 2 Jul 2012 11:59:30 +0200
Message-ID: <4FF17102.4080408@alcatel-lucent.com>
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 11:59:30 +0200
From: Martin Vigoureux <martin.vigoureux@alcatel-lucent.com>
Organization: Alcatel-Lucent
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:1.9.2.28) Gecko/20120306 Thunderbird/3.1.20
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: <l3vpn@ietf.org>
Subject: Slots requests for IETF 84 - Vancouver
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.69 on 155.132.188.84
Cc: l3vpn-chairs@tools.ietf.org
X-BeenThere: l3vpn@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: <l3vpn.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/l3vpn>, <mailto:l3vpn-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/l3vpn>
List-Post: <mailto:l3vpn@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:l3vpn-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/l3vpn>, <mailto:l3vpn-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2012 09:59:37 -0000

Dear all,

the L3VPN WG will meet in Vancouver. The session (still subject to 
change) is scheduled Monday, Afternoon Session II, 1540-1710.

This is thus a call for presentation slots.

Could you please send us your requests, before July 16th, indicating:
draft name, speaker and desired duration (presentation + Q&As).

Thank you.

Martin
for the L3VPN co-chairs

From internet-drafts@ietf.org  Thu Jul  5 12:42:19 2012
Return-Path: <internet-drafts@ietf.org>
X-Original-To: l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4DC211E80C1; Thu,  5 Jul 2012 12:42:18 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -102.519
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.519 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.080, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lbdLjUvQvloP; Thu,  5 Jul 2012 12:42:17 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2863C21F8616; Thu,  5 Jul 2012 12:41:50 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
From: internet-drafts@ietf.org
To: i-d-announce@ietf.org
Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-l3vpn-mvpn-bidir-03.txt
X-Test-IDTracker: no
X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.30
Message-ID: <20120705194150.10320.31699.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com>
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2012 12:41:50 -0700
Cc: l3vpn@ietf.org
X-BeenThere: l3vpn@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: <l3vpn.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/l3vpn>, <mailto:l3vpn-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/l3vpn>
List-Post: <mailto:l3vpn@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:l3vpn-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/l3vpn>, <mailto:l3vpn-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2012 19:42:20 -0000

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director=
ies.
 This draft is a work item of the Layer 3 Virtual Private Networks Working =
Group of the IETF.

	Title           : MVPN: Using Bidirectional P-Tunnels
	Author(s)       : Eric C. Rosen
                          IJsbrand Wijnands
                          Yiqun Cai
                          Arjen Boers
	Filename        : draft-ietf-l3vpn-mvpn-bidir-03.txt
	Pages           : 21
	Date            : 2012-07-05

Abstract:
   The documents specifying multicast support for BGP/MPLS IP VPNs allow
   customer multicast data to be transported through a service
   provider's network through a set multicast tunnels.  Such tunnels are
   advertised by BGP in a BGP attribute known as the "Provider Multicast
   Service Interface (PMSI) Tunnel Attribute".  The base specifications
   allow the PMSI Tunnel Attribute to advertise bidirectional multicast
   distribution trees as "PMSI Tunnels"; however, those documents do not
   provide all the necessary details for using those tunnels.  These
   details are provided in this document.  This document also specifies
   the procedures for assigning customer multicast flows to specific
   bidirectional PMSI tunnels.



The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l3vpn-mvpn-bidir

There's also a htmlized version available at:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l3vpn-mvpn-bidir-03

A diff from previous version is available at:
http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-l3vpn-mvpn-bidir-03


Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/


From thomas.morin@orange.com  Thu Jul 19 05:38:50 2012
Return-Path: <thomas.morin@orange.com>
X-Original-To: l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECC6121F855D for <l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 05:38:49 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.173
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.173 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.175, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_13=0.6, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FOkp2T4tKpEs for <l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 05:38:46 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from relais-inet.francetelecom.com (relais-ias91.francetelecom.com [193.251.215.91]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B3521F864F for <l3vpn@ietf.org>; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 05:38:45 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from omfedm08.si.francetelecom.fr (unknown [xx.xx.xx.4]) by omfedm13.si.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 8DE72324240 for <l3vpn@ietf.org>; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:39:37 +0200 (CEST)
Received: from Exchangemail-eme1.itn.ftgroup (unknown [10.114.1.183]) by omfedm08.si.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 6E3C6238056 for <l3vpn@ietf.org>; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:39:37 +0200 (CEST)
Received: from PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup ([fe80::cc7e:e40b:42ef:164e]) by PEXCVZYH02.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup ([::1]) with mapi id 14.02.0298.004; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:39:36 +0200
From: <thomas.morin@orange.com>
To: L3VPN <l3vpn@ietf.org>
Subject: IETF 84 draft l3vpn meeting agenda (2 sessions)
Thread-Topic: IETF 84 draft l3vpn meeting agenda (2 sessions)
Thread-Index: AQHNZauNYKRXE8LZwk+z4To9lH43AQ==
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:39:18 +0000
Message-ID: <12783_1342701577_50080009_12783_3816_1_50080044.5060001@orange.com>
Accept-Language: fr-FR, en-US
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach: 
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: 
user-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0
x-originating-ip: [10.197.38.4]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-ID: <5870F9D9F3F25A4481B8D3AD6865A640@adroot.infra.ftgroup>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-PMX-Version: 5.6.1.2065439, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2012.7.19.90317
X-BeenThere: l3vpn@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: <l3vpn.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/l3vpn>, <mailto:l3vpn-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/l3vpn>
List-Post: <mailto:l3vpn@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:l3vpn-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/l3vpn>, <mailto:l3vpn-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:38:50 -0000
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From yiqunc@microsoft.com  Thu Jul 19 11:16:11 2012
Return-Path: <yiqunc@microsoft.com>
X-Original-To: l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 768A821F8624 for <l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 11:16:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -4.299
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_13=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OUGFKXoBUe5X for <l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 11:16:10 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from co1outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (co1ehsobe002.messaging.microsoft.com [216.32.180.185]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A622721F861D for <l3vpn@ietf.org>; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 11:16:10 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail219-co1-R.bigfish.com (10.243.78.246) by CO1EHSOBE012.bigfish.com (10.243.66.75) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 18:17:04 +0000
Received: from mail219-co1 (localhost [127.0.0.1])	by mail219-co1-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C42E94C00FB; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 18:17:03 +0000 (UTC)
X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:131.107.125.8; KIP:(null); UIP:(null); IPV:NLI; H:TK5EX14HUBC101.redmond.corp.microsoft.com; RD:none; EFVD:NLI
X-SpamScore: -18
X-BigFish: VS-18(z1091vcb8kz8e8O9371I542M1432I4015Izz1202hzz1033IL8275bh8275dhz2fh2a8h668h839h93fhd25hf0ah107ah)
Received-SPF: pass (mail219-co1: domain of microsoft.com designates 131.107.125.8 as permitted sender) client-ip=131.107.125.8; envelope-from=yiqunc@microsoft.com; helo=TK5EX14HUBC101.redmond.corp.microsoft.com ; icrosoft.com ; 
Received: from mail219-co1 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail219-co1 (MessageSwitch) id 1342721822288700_12115; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 18:17:02 +0000 (UTC)
Received: from CO1EHSMHS002.bigfish.com (unknown [10.243.78.247])	by mail219-co1.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A70684004A; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 18:17:02 +0000 (UTC)
Received: from TK5EX14HUBC101.redmond.corp.microsoft.com (131.107.125.8) by CO1EHSMHS002.bigfish.com (10.243.66.12) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.225.23; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 18:17:00 +0000
Received: from TK5EX14MBXC274.redmond.corp.microsoft.com ([169.254.3.185]) by TK5EX14HUBC101.redmond.corp.microsoft.com ([157.54.7.153]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.003; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 18:16:53 +0000
From: Yiqun Cai <yiqunc@microsoft.com>
To: "thomas.morin@orange.com" <thomas.morin@orange.com>, L3VPN <l3vpn@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: IETF 84 draft l3vpn meeting agenda (2 sessions)
Thread-Topic: IETF 84 draft l3vpn meeting agenda (2 sessions)
Thread-Index: AQHNZauNYKRXE8LZwk+z4To9lH43AZcw6TVA
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 18:16:52 +0000
Message-ID: <0D12C66279647643A9523DE4CB5BEAB4E972CC@TK5EX14MBXC274.redmond.corp.microsoft.com>
References: <12783_1342701577_50080009_12783_3816_1_50080044.5060001@orange.com>
In-Reply-To: <12783_1342701577_50080009_12783_3816_1_50080044.5060001@orange.com>
Accept-Language: en-US
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach: 
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: 
x-originating-ip: [157.54.51.70]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-OriginatorOrg: microsoft.com
X-BeenThere: l3vpn@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: <l3vpn.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/l3vpn>, <mailto:l3vpn-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/l3vpn>
List-Post: <mailto:l3vpn@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:l3vpn-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/l3vpn>, <mailto:l3vpn-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 18:16:11 -0000
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From lufang@cisco.com  Thu Jul 19 11:27:56 2012
Return-Path: <lufang@cisco.com>
X-Original-To: l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DB9921F86DE for <l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 11:27:56 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -9.834
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.834 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.165,  BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_13=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Az7cKE7NVUYU for <l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 11:27:55 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from rcdn-iport-9.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-9.cisco.com [173.37.86.80]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F60C21F86EB for <l3vpn@ietf.org>; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 11:27:55 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=3208; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1342722529; x=1343932129; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:references:in-reply-to: content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=Hb8dYhDymJvm8AcWtAjcjF3EEGybmwl6AHUceIDFIus=; b=Xv1LYcFXMwxIVhNf/J7gkKV1OxwERr25ddbJhoKtPqzBjDxL4vqbooEq Gs1TRLymPSVehAzepw0Jhcjak2hxGWc+trIMzH+XAI4z2ksfLTZbgqjVr mLsgT/qXmGjKdySsLvxb5w38f9p25rh4E+ysmCjsJSvn7X8bOslGnpidX o=;
X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true
X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgEFAOFQCFCtJXG+/2dsb2JhbABFhW2yOoEcgQeCIAEBAQMBEgEQEUoHBAIBCBEEAQEDAgYdAwICAjAUAQgIAgQBEggah2UGC55FjRmSbYEgiiyFfjJgA5ZXjRCBZoJfgV8
X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,617,1336348800"; d="scan'208";a="100538368"
Received: from rcdn-core2-3.cisco.com ([173.37.113.190]) by rcdn-iport-9.cisco.com with ESMTP; 19 Jul 2012 18:28:30 +0000
Received: from xhc-aln-x15.cisco.com (xhc-aln-x15.cisco.com [173.36.12.89]) by rcdn-core2-3.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6JISUNF016382 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Thu, 19 Jul 2012 18:28:30 GMT
Received: from xmb-rcd-x03.cisco.com ([169.254.7.117]) by xhc-aln-x15.cisco.com ([173.36.12.89]) with mapi id 14.02.0298.004; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 13:28:30 -0500
From: "Luyuan Fang (lufang)" <lufang@cisco.com>
To: Yiqun Cai <yiqunc@microsoft.com>, "thomas.morin@orange.com" <thomas.morin@orange.com>, L3VPN <l3vpn@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: IETF 84 draft l3vpn meeting agenda (2 sessions)
Thread-Topic: IETF 84 draft l3vpn meeting agenda (2 sessions)
Thread-Index: AQHNZauNYKRXE8LZwk+z4To9lH43AZcw6TVAgAAC/JA=
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 18:28:46 +0000
Message-ID: <0DB8F45437AB844CBB5102F807A0AD9301F622@xmb-rcd-x03.cisco.com>
References: <12783_1342701577_50080009_12783_3816_1_50080044.5060001@orange.com> <0D12C66279647643A9523DE4CB5BEAB4E972CC@TK5EX14MBXC274.redmond.corp.microsoft.com>
In-Reply-To: <0D12C66279647643A9523DE4CB5BEAB4E972CC@TK5EX14MBXC274.redmond.corp.microsoft.com>
Accept-Language: en-US
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach: 
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: 
x-originating-ip: [10.21.95.246]
x-tm-as-product-ver: SMEX-10.2.0.1135-7.000.1014-19050.003
x-tm-as-result: No--41.647500-8.000000-31
x-tm-as-user-approved-sender: No
x-tm-as-user-blocked-sender: No
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-BeenThere: l3vpn@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: <l3vpn.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/l3vpn>, <mailto:l3vpn-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/l3vpn>
List-Post: <mailto:l3vpn@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:l3vpn-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/l3vpn>, <mailto:l3vpn-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 18:27:56 -0000
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From stbryant@cisco.com  Thu Jul 19 12:15:58 2012
Return-Path: <stbryant@cisco.com>
X-Original-To: l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AF7321F8707 for <l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:15:58 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -110.271
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-110.271 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.272, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_13=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18hm5U3uh8ut for <l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:15:53 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from ams-iport-3.cisco.com (ams-iport-3.cisco.com [144.254.224.146]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A8EF21F86F7 for <l3vpn@ietf.org>; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:15:53 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=stbryant@cisco.com; l=2772; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1342725407; x=1343935007; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:mime-version:to:cc:subject: references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3qy91jh5/ePKnNi97Udqll+N0Ln9KTqWo69eNxdKivc=; b=LqrosMik0hBVOM0hkxBqytuazpFqD6ux5Ki5MfrQvgQKQhQOCG7b1AsO rTNw9W4qOrJuUbG4yt6Slw25nrf9/fysQMSxSJQ0sKS+ymDFYR7m0hO9T s0d6o0OFlbqSbXvQV4sdQUjeAjlsLD9/8HomaXjVwNdJ2IF/uZIJWPXBW A=;
X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,617,1336348800";  d="scan'208";a="6762105"
Received: from ams-core-2.cisco.com ([144.254.72.75]) by ams-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 19 Jul 2012 19:16:46 +0000
Received: from cisco.com (mrwint.cisco.com [64.103.70.36]) by ams-core-2.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6JJGk6H001312 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 19 Jul 2012 19:16:46 GMT
Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cisco.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id q6JJGhYp013103; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 20:16:43 +0100 (BST)
Message-ID: <50085D1B.5010906@cisco.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 20:16:43 +0100
From: Stewart Bryant <stbryant@cisco.com>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: "Luyuan Fang (lufang)" <lufang@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: IETF 84 draft l3vpn meeting agenda (2 sessions)
References: <12783_1342701577_50080009_12783_3816_1_50080044.5060001@orange.com> <0D12C66279647643A9523DE4CB5BEAB4E972CC@TK5EX14MBXC274.redmond.corp.microsoft.com> <0DB8F45437AB844CBB5102F807A0AD9301F622@xmb-rcd-x03.cisco.com>
In-Reply-To: <0DB8F45437AB844CBB5102F807A0AD9301F622@xmb-rcd-x03.cisco.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Cc: "thomas.morin@orange.com" <thomas.morin@orange.com>, L3VPN <l3vpn@ietf.org>
X-BeenThere: l3vpn@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
Reply-To: stbryant@cisco.com
List-Id: <l3vpn.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/l3vpn>, <mailto:l3vpn-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/l3vpn>
List-Post: <mailto:l3vpn@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:l3vpn-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/l3vpn>, <mailto:l3vpn-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 19:15:58 -0000

I am surprised that L3VPN participants plan to miss MPLS?

The old ISIS slot overlaps with SDNRG?

My impression is  that may be a significant overlap between
L3VPN participants and those interested in SDN.

Stewart



On 19/07/2012 19:28, Luyuan Fang (lufang) wrote:
> Yiqun,
>
> Good point, thx!
>
> Thomas and Martin,
>
> It would be very helpful if this can be done, many of us planned to leave before Friday.
>
> Thanks,
> Luyuan
>
>
>> From: l3vpn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:l3vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalfq
>> Of Yiqun Cai
>> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 2:17 PM
>> To: thomas.morin@orange.com; L3VPN
>> Subject: RE: IETF 84 draft l3vpn meeting agenda (2 sessions)
>>
>> Chairs,
>>
>> Any chance to move the Friday session to Wednesday afternoon to the
>> slot previously occupied by IS-IS? Thanks.
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: l3vpn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:l3vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On
>> Behalf
>>> Of thomas.morin@orange.com
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 5:39 AM
>>> To: L3VPN
>>> Subject: IETF 84 draft l3vpn meeting agenda (2 sessions)
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> The l3vpn working group will meet for *two* sessions (one on Monday
>>> afternoon, and an additional one on Friday morning).
>>>
>>> The draft agenda is here:
>>> http://tools.ietf.org/wg/l3vpn/agenda?item=agenda-84-l3vpn.html .
>>> Please tell us if you notice any problem, and note that it may be
>> updated.
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> -Thomas and Martin
>>> __________________________________________________________
>>> __________________________________________________________
>>> _____
>>>
>>> Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations
>>> confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses,
>> exploites
>>> ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur,
>> veuillez
>>> le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces
>> jointes. Les
>>> messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, France
>> Telecom -
>>> Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere,
>> deforme ou
>>> falsifie. Merci.
>>>
>>> This message and its attachments may contain confidential or
>> privileged
>>> information that may be protected by law; they should not be
>> distributed,
>>> used or copied without authorisation.
>>> If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender
>> and delete
>>> this message and its attachments.
>>> As emails may be altered, France Telecom - Orange is not liable for
>> messages
>>> that have been modified, changed or falsified.
>>> Thank you.


-- 
For corporate legal information go to:

http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/index.html


From lufang@cisco.com  Thu Jul 19 12:30:30 2012
Return-Path: <lufang@cisco.com>
X-Original-To: l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5223D21F8775 for <l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:30:30 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -9.844
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.844 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.155,  BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_13=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id D2gNwKckesyk for <l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:30:29 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from rcdn-iport-2.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-2.cisco.com [173.37.86.73]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0E2621F8566 for <l3vpn@ietf.org>; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:30:28 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=lufang@cisco.com; l=4686; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1342726283; x=1343935883; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=jw8M70fJQKvwQsvgUMWQqOPFueLu1IKYv4wT4oLO9t4=; b=PbBzmqHQIXRbBA5qsOwU9CndKJDpdfo0Iy+w9DZpXrTH1i41P/QwoBJ3 hpmQ7KtZFJ6f3ZiZGKx2RgfmbrY3jP/pEsFEYnuKXv5pIUmzMypUVCVoi YGD/o0eRlYVk/0YuGwt0Kg9foFY6UBLRtaXPUiJeAnpR30CQv5DlPNEV3 4=;
X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true
X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgEFACBgCFCtJXG8/2dsb2JhbABFhW2yOoEcgQeCIAEBAQQSARARRQwEAgEIEQQBAQECAgYdAwICAjAUAQgIAgQOBQgah2sLnkmNGZJxgSCKLIV+MmADlleNEIFmgl+BXw
X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,617,1336348800"; d="scan'208";a="103528042"
Received: from rcdn-core2-1.cisco.com ([173.37.113.188]) by rcdn-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 19 Jul 2012 19:31:02 +0000
Received: from xhc-aln-x02.cisco.com (xhc-aln-x02.cisco.com [173.36.12.76]) by rcdn-core2-1.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6JJV2jM032092 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Thu, 19 Jul 2012 19:31:02 GMT
Received: from xmb-rcd-x03.cisco.com ([169.254.7.117]) by xhc-aln-x02.cisco.com ([173.36.12.76]) with mapi id 14.02.0298.004; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:31:00 -0500
From: "Luyuan Fang (lufang)" <lufang@cisco.com>
To: "Stewart Bryant (stbryant)" <stbryant@cisco.com>
Subject: RE: IETF 84 draft l3vpn meeting agenda (2 sessions)
Thread-Topic: IETF 84 draft l3vpn meeting agenda (2 sessions)
Thread-Index: AQHNZauNYKRXE8LZwk+z4To9lH43AZcw6TVAgAAC/JCAAGJZgP//rfcw
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 19:31:16 +0000
Message-ID: <0DB8F45437AB844CBB5102F807A0AD9301F736@xmb-rcd-x03.cisco.com>
References: <12783_1342701577_50080009_12783_3816_1_50080044.5060001@orange.com> <0D12C66279647643A9523DE4CB5BEAB4E972CC@TK5EX14MBXC274.redmond.corp.microsoft.com> <0DB8F45437AB844CBB5102F807A0AD9301F622@xmb-rcd-x03.cisco.com> <50085D1B.5010906@cisco.com>
In-Reply-To: <50085D1B.5010906@cisco.com>
Accept-Language: en-US
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach: 
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: 
x-originating-ip: [10.21.95.246]
x-tm-as-product-ver: SMEX-10.2.0.1135-7.000.1014-19050.003
x-tm-as-result: No--49.909500-8.000000-31
x-tm-as-user-approved-sender: No
x-tm-as-user-blocked-sender: No
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
MIME-Version: 1.0
Cc: "thomas.morin@orange.com" <thomas.morin@orange.com>, L3VPN <l3vpn@ietf.org>
X-BeenThere: l3vpn@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: <l3vpn.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/l3vpn>, <mailto:l3vpn-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/l3vpn>
List-Post: <mailto:l3vpn@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:l3vpn-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/l3vpn>, <mailto:l3vpn-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 19:30:30 -0000
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From lufang@cisco.com  Thu Jul 19 12:38:08 2012
Return-Path: <lufang@cisco.com>
X-Original-To: l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4864821F8742 for <l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:38:08 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -9.669
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.669 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.330,  BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_13=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fsoxNPxbbTyh for <l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:38:07 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com [173.37.86.74]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C10F21F8737 for <l3vpn@ietf.org>; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:38:07 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=lufang@cisco.com; l=5608; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1342726741; x=1343936341; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=5RrbPOWfg1DVC98KFJoi5P6xnQl78RzupGctbAQeBRU=; b=TAEInWPSPGOHXWNSCeI8AhW2DD8bepfR7ok0sxX54hCOnBZ1aARot2Dn z5LNz7k8Z6tTS3A/feJthDadau5HmKyUxTsVqveWnk9sPPYD+9YE/gZMM SvDbzM0UH/LEGjIQuKcIN+dMfnGnvOsbY38i58jl4+pgm8okFkCxme5Ac 4=;
X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true
X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgEFABNhCFCtJV2b/2dsb2JhbABFhW2yOoEcgQeCIAEBAQQSARARRQwEAgEIEQQBAQECAgYdAwICAjAUAQgIAgQOBQgah2sLnkmNGZJwgSCKLIV+MmADlleNEIFmgl+BXw
X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,617,1336348800"; d="scan'208";a="103578052"
Received: from rcdn-core-4.cisco.com ([173.37.93.155]) by rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 19 Jul 2012 19:39:01 +0000
Received: from xhc-rcd-x14.cisco.com (xhc-rcd-x14.cisco.com [173.37.183.88]) by rcdn-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6JJd0jJ018775 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Thu, 19 Jul 2012 19:39:00 GMT
Received: from xmb-rcd-x03.cisco.com ([169.254.7.117]) by xhc-rcd-x14.cisco.com ([173.37.183.88]) with mapi id 14.02.0298.004; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:39:00 -0500
From: "Luyuan Fang (lufang)" <lufang@cisco.com>
To: "Stewart Bryant (stbryant)" <stbryant@cisco.com>
Subject: RE: IETF 84 draft l3vpn meeting agenda (2 sessions)
Thread-Topic: IETF 84 draft l3vpn meeting agenda (2 sessions)
Thread-Index: AQHNZauNYKRXE8LZwk+z4To9lH43AZcw6TVAgAAC/JCAAGJZgP//rfcwgAADmgA=
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 19:39:16 +0000
Message-ID: <0DB8F45437AB844CBB5102F807A0AD9301F763@xmb-rcd-x03.cisco.com>
References: <12783_1342701577_50080009_12783_3816_1_50080044.5060001@orange.com> <0D12C66279647643A9523DE4CB5BEAB4E972CC@TK5EX14MBXC274.redmond.corp.microsoft.com> <0DB8F45437AB844CBB5102F807A0AD9301F622@xmb-rcd-x03.cisco.com> <50085D1B.5010906@cisco.com> <0DB8F45437AB844CBB5102F807A0AD9301F736@xmb-rcd-x03.cisco.com>
In-Reply-To: <0DB8F45437AB844CBB5102F807A0AD9301F736@xmb-rcd-x03.cisco.com>
Accept-Language: en-US
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach: 
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: 
x-originating-ip: [10.21.95.246]
x-tm-as-product-ver: SMEX-10.2.0.1135-7.000.1014-19050.003
x-tm-as-result: No--52.688400-8.000000-31
x-tm-as-user-approved-sender: No
x-tm-as-user-blocked-sender: No
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
MIME-Version: 1.0
Cc: "thomas.morin@orange.com" <thomas.morin@orange.com>, L3VPN <l3vpn@ietf.org>
X-BeenThere: l3vpn@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: <l3vpn.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/l3vpn>, <mailto:l3vpn-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/l3vpn>
List-Post: <mailto:l3vpn@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:l3vpn-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/l3vpn>, <mailto:l3vpn-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 19:38:08 -0000
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=

From loa@pi.nu  Thu Jul 19 12:49:35 2012
Return-Path: <loa@pi.nu>
X-Original-To: l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D2C21F86EB for <l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:49:33 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -102.224
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.224 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.225, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_13=0.6, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AxlednJcFnEz for <l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:49:32 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail.pi.nu (mail.pi.nu [194.71.127.148]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91D9D21F8700 for <l3vpn@ietf.org>; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:49:31 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from [192.168.1.64] (81-236-221-144-no93.tbcn.telia.com [81.236.221.144]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by mail.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 40D3C2A8003; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 21:50:24 +0200 (CEST)
Message-ID: <500864F9.4060503@pi.nu>
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 21:50:17 +0200
From: Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: "Luyuan Fang (lufang)" <lufang@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: IETF 84 draft l3vpn meeting agenda (2 sessions)
References: <12783_1342701577_50080009_12783_3816_1_50080044.5060001@orange.com> <0D12C66279647643A9523DE4CB5BEAB4E972CC@TK5EX14MBXC274.redmond.corp.microsoft.com> <0DB8F45437AB844CBB5102F807A0AD9301F622@xmb-rcd-x03.cisco.com> <50085D1B.5010906@cisco.com> <0DB8F45437AB844CBB5102F807A0AD9301F736@xmb-rcd-x03.cisco.com> <0DB8F45437AB844CBB5102F807A0AD9301F763@xmb-rcd-x03.cisco.com>
In-Reply-To: <0DB8F45437AB844CBB5102F807A0AD9301F763@xmb-rcd-x03.cisco.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Cc: "thomas.morin@orange.com" <thomas.morin@orange.com>, L3VPN <l3vpn@ietf.org>, "Stewart Bryant \(stbryant\)" <stbryant@cisco.com>
X-BeenThere: l3vpn@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: <l3vpn.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/l3vpn>, <mailto:l3vpn-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/l3vpn>
List-Post: <mailto:l3vpn@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:l3vpn-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/l3vpn>, <mailto:l3vpn-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 19:49:35 -0000

Luyuan,

since you say "overlap with MPLS" I'm a bit concerned

the MPLS sessions are   0900 - 1130 on Monday; and
                         0900 - 1100 on Friday

the L3VPN sessions are  1540 - 1710 on Monday; and
                         1120 - 1220 on Friday.

Where is the overlap?? Something I missed?

/Loa



On 2012-07-19 21:39, Luyuan Fang (lufang) wrote:
> And the current session overlaps with MPLS is not good either as you brought it up.
> Hope chairs could find an alternative, if possible.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: l3vpn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:l3vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf
>> Of Luyuan Fang (lufang)
>> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 3:31 PM
>> To: Stewart Bryant (stbryant)
>> Cc: thomas.morin@orange.com; L3VPN
>> Subject: RE: IETF 84 draft l3vpn meeting agenda (2 sessions)
>>
>> Stewart,
>>
>> You are right. It would not work because the overlap with SDNRG.
>> I also looked the previous "SPF Update" slot - Tue. 17:00 - 18:30. It
>> overlaps with ALTO, PWE3... not good either.
>>
>> Luyuan
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Stewart Bryant (stbryant)
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 3:17 PM
>>> To: Luyuan Fang (lufang)
>>> Cc: Yiqun Cai; thomas.morin@orange.com; L3VPN
>>> Subject: Re: IETF 84 draft l3vpn meeting agenda (2 sessions)
>>>
>>> I am surprised that L3VPN participants plan to miss MPLS?
>>>
>>> The old ISIS slot overlaps with SDNRG?
>>>
>>> My impression is  that may be a significant overlap between
>>> L3VPN participants and those interested in SDN.
>>>
>>> Stewart
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 19/07/2012 19:28, Luyuan Fang (lufang) wrote:
>>>> Yiqun,
>>>>
>>>> Good point, thx!
>>>>
>>>> Thomas and Martin,
>>>>
>>>> It would be very helpful if this can be done, many of us planned to
>>> leave before Friday.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Luyuan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From: l3vpn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:l3vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On
>>> Behalfq
>>>>> Of Yiqun Cai
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 2:17 PM
>>>>> To: thomas.morin@orange.com; L3VPN
>>>>> Subject: RE: IETF 84 draft l3vpn meeting agenda (2 sessions)
>>>>>
>>>>> Chairs,
>>>>>
>>>>> Any chance to move the Friday session to Wednesday afternoon to
>> the
>>>>> slot previously occupied by IS-IS? Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: l3vpn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:l3vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of thomas.morin@orange.com
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 5:39 AM
>>>>>> To: L3VPN
>>>>>> Subject: IETF 84 draft l3vpn meeting agenda (2 sessions)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The l3vpn working group will meet for *two* sessions (one on
>> Monday
>>>>>> afternoon, and an additional one on Friday morning).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The draft agenda is here:
>>>>>> http://tools.ietf.org/wg/l3vpn/agenda?item=agenda-84-l3vpn.html .
>>>>>> Please tell us if you notice any problem, and note that it may be
>>>>> updated.
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Thomas and Martin
>>>>>> __________________________________________________________
>>>>>> __________________________________________________________
>>>>>> _____
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des
>> informations
>>>>>> confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre
>>> diffuses,
>>>>> exploites
>>>>>> ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par
>>> erreur,
>>>>> veuillez
>>>>>> le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces
>>>>> jointes. Les
>>>>>> messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, France
>>>>> Telecom -
>>>>>> Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere,
>>>>> deforme ou
>>>>>> falsifie. Merci.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This message and its attachments may contain confidential or
>>>>> privileged
>>>>>> information that may be protected by law; they should not be
>>>>> distributed,
>>>>>> used or copied without authorisation.
>>>>>> If you have received this email in error, please notify the
>> sender
>>>>> and delete
>>>>>> this message and its attachments.
>>>>>> As emails may be altered, France Telecom - Orange is not liable
>> for
>>>>> messages
>>>>>> that have been modified, changed or falsified.
>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> For corporate legal information go to:
>>>
>>> http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/index.html
>

-- 


Loa Andersson                         email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com
Sr Strategy and Standards Manager            loa@pi.nu
Ericsson Inc                          phone: +46 10 717 52 13
                                              +46 767 72 92 13

From lufang@cisco.com  Thu Jul 19 13:11:04 2012
Return-Path: <lufang@cisco.com>
X-Original-To: l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E325411E8086 for <l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 13:11:04 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -9.699
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.300,  BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_13=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GaQa3MtH65TP for <l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 13:11:04 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from rcdn-iport-4.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-4.cisco.com [173.37.86.75]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2F6521F8798 for <l3vpn@ietf.org>; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 13:11:03 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=lufang@cisco.com; l=5364; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1342728718; x=1343938318; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=zww9CQ1X1CyuRMMnZcmGt9/WXr+ZcsHmrKcPz3zFE+A=; b=XN8fzLAjws3nyge/3AN9aADJP2jKq0Po5lsbbhQeBLIKlqIUolW6NSjr I6xZnzdNSBVz7crLTPJbEqtqA4K3NGTGAdcxcuguGIK/3G03Chv6/l35h kFf26LsTOjx7GfvAtkEubRPnpo8c1BxHxZb07r/XRCtanxqDcyAXNdCO1 c=;
X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true
X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av8EAJVoCFCtJV2a/2dsb2JhbABFuUOBB4IgAQEBBBIBJz8MAgICAQgRBAEBAQoUCQcbFxQJCAIEDgUIGodrC55BoAgEi0iGMGADlleNEIFmgl+BXw
X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,617,1336348800"; d="scan'208";a="103587433"
Received: from rcdn-core-3.cisco.com ([173.37.93.154]) by rcdn-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 19 Jul 2012 20:11:57 +0000
Received: from xhc-rcd-x01.cisco.com (xhc-rcd-x01.cisco.com [173.37.183.75]) by rcdn-core-3.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6JKBvZa031709 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Thu, 19 Jul 2012 20:11:57 GMT
Received: from xmb-rcd-x03.cisco.com ([169.254.7.117]) by xhc-rcd-x01.cisco.com ([173.37.183.75]) with mapi id 14.02.0298.004; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 15:11:56 -0500
From: "Luyuan Fang (lufang)" <lufang@cisco.com>
To: Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu>
Subject: RE: IETF 84 draft l3vpn meeting agenda (2 sessions)
Thread-Topic: IETF 84 draft l3vpn meeting agenda (2 sessions)
Thread-Index: AQHNZauNYKRXE8LZwk+z4To9lH43AZcw6TVAgAAC/JCAAGJZgP//rfcwgAADmgCAAFfQgP//r+Yw
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 20:12:12 +0000
Message-ID: <0DB8F45437AB844CBB5102F807A0AD9301F7AD@xmb-rcd-x03.cisco.com>
References: <12783_1342701577_50080009_12783_3816_1_50080044.5060001@orange.com> <0D12C66279647643A9523DE4CB5BEAB4E972CC@TK5EX14MBXC274.redmond.corp.microsoft.com> <0DB8F45437AB844CBB5102F807A0AD9301F622@xmb-rcd-x03.cisco.com> <50085D1B.5010906@cisco.com> <0DB8F45437AB844CBB5102F807A0AD9301F736@xmb-rcd-x03.cisco.com> <0DB8F45437AB844CBB5102F807A0AD9301F763@xmb-rcd-x03.cisco.com> <500864F9.4060503@pi.nu>
In-Reply-To: <500864F9.4060503@pi.nu>
Accept-Language: en-US
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach: 
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: 
x-originating-ip: [10.21.95.246]
x-tm-as-product-ver: SMEX-10.2.0.1135-7.000.1014-19050.003
x-tm-as-result: No--54.097200-8.000000-31
x-tm-as-user-approved-sender: No
x-tm-as-user-blocked-sender: No
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
MIME-Version: 1.0
Cc: "thomas.morin@orange.com" <thomas.morin@orange.com>, L3VPN <l3vpn@ietf.org>, "Stewart Bryant \(stbryant\)" <stbryant@cisco.com>
X-BeenThere: l3vpn@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: <l3vpn.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/l3vpn>, <mailto:l3vpn-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/l3vpn>
List-Post: <mailto:l3vpn@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:l3vpn-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/l3vpn>, <mailto:l3vpn-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 20:11:05 -0000

You are right, Loa. No overlapping w/ MPLS.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Loa Andersson [mailto:loa@pi.nu]
> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 3:50 PM
> To: Luyuan Fang (lufang)
> Cc: Stewart Bryant (stbryant); thomas.morin@orange.com; L3VPN
> Subject: Re: IETF 84 draft l3vpn meeting agenda (2 sessions)
>=20
> Luyuan,
>=20
> since you say "overlap with MPLS" I'm a bit concerned
>=20
> the MPLS sessions are   0900 - 1130 on Monday; and
>                          0900 - 1100 on Friday
>=20
> the L3VPN sessions are  1540 - 1710 on Monday; and
>                          1120 - 1220 on Friday.
>=20
> Where is the overlap?? Something I missed?
>=20
> /Loa
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On 2012-07-19 21:39, Luyuan Fang (lufang) wrote:
> > And the current session overlaps with MPLS is not good either as you
> brought it up.
> > Hope chairs could find an alternative, if possible.
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: l3vpn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:l3vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On
> Behalf
> >> Of Luyuan Fang (lufang)
> >> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 3:31 PM
> >> To: Stewart Bryant (stbryant)
> >> Cc: thomas.morin@orange.com; L3VPN
> >> Subject: RE: IETF 84 draft l3vpn meeting agenda (2 sessions)
> >>
> >> Stewart,
> >>
> >> You are right. It would not work because the overlap with SDNRG.
> >> I also looked the previous "SPF Update" slot - Tue. 17:00 - 18:30.
> It
> >> overlaps with ALTO, PWE3... not good either.
> >>
> >> Luyuan
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Stewart Bryant (stbryant)
> >>> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 3:17 PM
> >>> To: Luyuan Fang (lufang)
> >>> Cc: Yiqun Cai; thomas.morin@orange.com; L3VPN
> >>> Subject: Re: IETF 84 draft l3vpn meeting agenda (2 sessions)
> >>>
> >>> I am surprised that L3VPN participants plan to miss MPLS?
> >>>
> >>> The old ISIS slot overlaps with SDNRG?
> >>>
> >>> My impression is  that may be a significant overlap between
> >>> L3VPN participants and those interested in SDN.
> >>>
> >>> Stewart
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 19/07/2012 19:28, Luyuan Fang (lufang) wrote:
> >>>> Yiqun,
> >>>>
> >>>> Good point, thx!
> >>>>
> >>>> Thomas and Martin,
> >>>>
> >>>> It would be very helpful if this can be done, many of us planned
> to
> >>> leave before Friday.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Luyuan
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> From: l3vpn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:l3vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On
> >>> Behalfq
> >>>>> Of Yiqun Cai
> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 2:17 PM
> >>>>> To: thomas.morin@orange.com; L3VPN
> >>>>> Subject: RE: IETF 84 draft l3vpn meeting agenda (2 sessions)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Chairs,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Any chance to move the Friday session to Wednesday afternoon to
> >> the
> >>>>> slot previously occupied by IS-IS? Thanks.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: l3vpn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:l3vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On
> >>>>> Behalf
> >>>>>> Of thomas.morin@orange.com
> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 5:39 AM
> >>>>>> To: L3VPN
> >>>>>> Subject: IETF 84 draft l3vpn meeting agenda (2 sessions)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The l3vpn working group will meet for *two* sessions (one on
> >> Monday
> >>>>>> afternoon, and an additional one on Friday morning).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The draft agenda is here:
> >>>>>> http://tools.ietf.org/wg/l3vpn/agenda?item=3Dagenda-84-l3vpn.html
> .
> >>>>>> Please tell us if you notice any problem, and note that it may
> be
> >>>>> updated.
> >>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -Thomas and Martin
> >>>>>> __________________________________________________________
> >>>>>> __________________________________________________________
> >>>>>> _____
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des
> >> informations
> >>>>>> confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre
> >>> diffuses,
> >>>>> exploites
> >>>>>> ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par
> >>> erreur,
> >>>>> veuillez
> >>>>>> le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces
> >>>>> jointes. Les
> >>>>>> messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, France
> >>>>> Telecom -
> >>>>>> Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere,
> >>>>> deforme ou
> >>>>>> falsifie. Merci.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> This message and its attachments may contain confidential or
> >>>>> privileged
> >>>>>> information that may be protected by law; they should not be
> >>>>> distributed,
> >>>>>> used or copied without authorisation.
> >>>>>> If you have received this email in error, please notify the
> >> sender
> >>>>> and delete
> >>>>>> this message and its attachments.
> >>>>>> As emails may be altered, France Telecom - Orange is not liable
> >> for
> >>>>> messages
> >>>>>> that have been modified, changed or falsified.
> >>>>>> Thank you.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> For corporate legal information go to:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/index.html
> >
>=20
> --
>=20
>=20
> Loa Andersson                         email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com
> Sr Strategy and Standards Manager            loa@pi.nu
> Ericsson Inc                          phone: +46 10 717 52 13
>                                               +46 767 72 92 13

From martin.vigoureux@alcatel-lucent.com  Sat Jul 28 14:32:57 2012
Return-Path: <martin.vigoureux@alcatel-lucent.com>
X-Original-To: l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE61F21F86A8 for <l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 14:32:57 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -109.949
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-109.949 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, J_CHICKENPOX_13=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BUyQ7ePuvysX for <l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 14:32:57 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from smail3.alcatel.fr (smail3.alcatel.fr [64.208.49.56]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1376421F86A7 for <l3vpn@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 14:32:56 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from FRMRSSXCHHUB04.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com (FRMRSSXCHHUB04.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com [135.120.45.64]) by smail3.alcatel.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/ICT) with ESMTP id q6SLWtbV014172 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT); Sat, 28 Jul 2012 23:32:56 +0200
Received: from US70UWXCHHUB01.zam.alcatel-lucent.com (135.5.2.48) by FRMRSSXCHHUB04.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com (135.120.45.64) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.213.0; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 23:32:55 +0200
Received: from [135.244.34.108] (135.5.27.11) by US70UWXCHHUB01.zam.alcatel-lucent.com (135.5.2.48) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.247.3; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:32:53 -0400
Message-ID: <50145A80.5030707@alcatel-lucent.com>
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 23:32:48 +0200
From: Martin Vigoureux <martin.vigoureux@alcatel-lucent.com>
Organization: Alcatel-Lucent
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: <l3vpn@ietf.org>
Subject: IETF84 - L3VPN Sessions - Time to send slides
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Originating-IP: [135.5.27.11]
X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.69 on 155.132.188.83
Cc: l3vpn-chairs@tools.ietf.org
X-BeenThere: l3vpn@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: <l3vpn.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/l3vpn>, <mailto:l3vpn-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/l3vpn>
List-Post: <mailto:l3vpn@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:l3vpn-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/l3vpn>, <mailto:l3vpn-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 21:32:58 -0000

All,

the agenda is available here:
http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/84/agenda/agenda-84-l3vpn

Please have a look at it.

It is now time for the speakers to send us their slides.
Please send them *no later* than Sunday 8pm Vancouver time.
Thanks.

martin & thomas

From ietf@meetecho.com  Mon Jul 30 13:45:58 2012
Return-Path: <ietf@meetecho.com>
X-Original-To: l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59D6B11E818F for <l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:45:58 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -0.419
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.419 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245, J_CHICKENPOX_13=0.6]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jsFDd2xKTtY9 for <l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:45:57 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from smtplq03.aruba.it (smtplqs-out18.aruba.it [62.149.158.58]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 3114D11E818E for <L3VPN@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:45:47 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 21962 invoked by uid 89); 30 Jul 2012 20:45:45 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO smtp7.aruba.it) (62.149.158.227) by smtplq03.aruba.it with SMTP; 30 Jul 2012 20:45:45 -0000
Received: (qmail 23591 invoked by uid 89); 30 Jul 2012 20:45:45 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO ?130.129.21.177?) (alex@meetecho.com@130.129.21.177) by smtp7.ad.aruba.it with ESMTPA; 30 Jul 2012 20:45:45 -0000
Message-ID: <5016F264.9000105@meetecho.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 22:45:24 +0200
From: Meetecho IETF support <ietf@meetecho.com>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: L3VPN@ietf.org
Subject: Meetecho support for L3VPN WG
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Spam-Rating: smtplq03.aruba.it 1.6.2 0/1000/N
X-BeenThere: l3vpn@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: <l3vpn.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/l3vpn>, <mailto:l3vpn-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/l3vpn>
List-Post: <mailto:l3vpn@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:l3vpn-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/l3vpn>, <mailto:l3vpn-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 20:45:58 -0000

Hi all,

a virtual room has been reserved on the Meetecho system for today's
L3VPN WG meeting session.

Access to the on-line session (including audio and video streams) will
be available at:
http://www.meetecho.com/ietf84/l3vpn

The Meetecho session automatically logs you into the standard IETF
jabber room. So, from there, you can have an integrated experience
involving all media and allowing you to interact with the room.
Remote participants might also send their own voice to the room, if they
want to, by either calling a landline phone number, or using our
embedded VoIP applet (in this last case they are *strongly* advised to
use a headset).

A tutorial of interactivity features of the tool can be found at:
http://www.meetecho.com/ietf84

Cheers,
the Meetecho team
-- 
Meetecho s.r.l.
Web Conferencing and Collaboration Tools
www.meetecho.com

From thomas.morin@orange.com  Mon Jul 30 14:20:18 2012
Return-Path: <thomas.morin@orange.com>
X-Original-To: l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3351221F856D for <l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:20:18 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -6.174
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.174 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.075,  BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vguFuP89cF3Z for <l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:20:06 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from p-mail1.rd.francetelecom.com (p-mail1.rd.francetelecom.com [195.101.245.15]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 214AC21F849C for <l3vpn@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:20:06 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from p-mail1.rd.francetelecom.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 3FC394110A8 for <l3vpn@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 23:20:04 +0200 (CEST)
Received: from ftrdsmtp1.rd.francetelecom.fr (unknown [10.192.128.46]) by p-mail1.rd.francetelecom.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 345C2410E49 for <l3vpn@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 23:20:04 +0200 (CEST)
Received: from ftrdmel10.rd.francetelecom.fr ([10.192.128.44]) by ftrdsmtp1.rd.francetelecom.fr with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675);  Mon, 30 Jul 2012 23:20:03 +0200
Received: from [10.193.116.43] ([10.193.116.43]) by ftrdmel10.rd.francetelecom.fr with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675);  Mon, 30 Jul 2012 23:20:03 +0200
Message-ID: <5016FABC.30508@orange.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:21:00 -0700
From: Thomas Morin <thomas.morin@orange.com>
Organization: France Telecom Orange
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: L3VPN <l3vpn@ietf.org>
Subject: Fwd: NomCom 2012-2013: Second Call for Volunteers
References: <20120724200604.14449.1507.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com>
In-Reply-To: <20120724200604.14449.1507.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com>
X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <20120724200604.14449.1507.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com>
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000005020600010902050704"
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jul 2012 21:20:03.0944 (UTC) FILETIME=[15DC8E80:01CD6E99]
X-BeenThere: l3vpn@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: <l3vpn.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/l3vpn>, <mailto:l3vpn-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/l3vpn>
List-Post: <mailto:l3vpn@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:l3vpn-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/l3vpn>, <mailto:l3vpn-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 21:20:19 -0000

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--------------000005020600010902050704
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Working group,

Please consider volunteering !
Feedback from those who did participate to NomCom happens to be very 
positive.

Thanks,

-Thomas

--------------000005020600010902050704
Content-Type: message/rfc822;
 name="NomCom 2012-2013: Second Call for Volunteers"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: attachment;
 filename="NomCom 2012-2013: Second Call for Volunteers"

Received: from omfedm08.si.francetelecom.fr (10.98.84.132) by
 PEXCVZYH01.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup (10.114.1.186) with Microsoft SMTP
 Server id 14.2.298.4; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 22:06:39 +0200
Received: from omfedm10.si.francetelecom.fr (unknown [10.98.62.18])	by
 omfedm08.si.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 37F2F23804B;	Tue,
 24 Jul 2012 22:06:34 +0200 (CEST)
Received: from omfedm10.si.francetelecom.fr (localhost.localdomain
 [127.0.0.1])	by omfedm10.si.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with SMTP id
 2B4CC264412;	Tue, 24 Jul 2012 22:06:34 +0200 (CEST)
Received: from mail.ietf.org (mail.ietf.org [12.22.58.30])	by
 relais-inet.francetelecom.com (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id C3A9B264410;	Tue,
 24 Jul 2012 22:06:33 +0200 (CEST)
Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1])	by ietfa.amsl.com
 (Postfix) with ESMTP id D79FE11E80AE;	Tue, 24 Jul 2012 13:06:08 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ietf.org; s=ietf1;
	t=1343160369; bh=W/3MMeEvccqNth12YkTqqb4qAHykbkZD9BKxMXDurfA=;
	h=MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:To:
	 Subject:Message-ID:Date:List-Id:List-Unsubscribe:List-Archive:
	 List-Post:List-Help:List-Subscribe:Sender;
	b=AyZrFypva2Pnmtkr22SJTwN9nif75GSkFZwCBjJehFBhxfd07jW+jtsoUTVb4C0hM
	 ICy41FyQhQjRyLzDLNLv0TkZdykJxXyBfKcPME7rYWozZBsOJlRqmm7sITabXG2hKo
	 q9USPzdrPhddIEvx0BBs2Y+Um+gLNsYlhM6N/lu0=
X-Original-To: ietf-announce@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietf-announce@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])	by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix)
 with ESMTP id 0455C11E808D	for <ietf-announce@ietfa.amsl.com>;	Tue, 24 Jul
 2012 13:06:06 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -102.599
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5
	tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30])	by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com
 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)	with ESMTP id 3ZMIhJJVnCSM for
 <ietf-announce@ietfa.amsl.com>;	Tue, 24 Jul 2012 13:06:04 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1])	by ietfa.amsl.com
 (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AB1911E8091	for <ietf-announce@ietf.org>; Tue, 24
 Jul 2012 13:06:04 -0700 (PDT)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
From: NomCom Chair <nomcom-chair@ietf.org>
To: IETF Announcement List <ietf-announce@ietf.org>
Subject: NomCom 2012-2013: Second Call for Volunteers
X-Test-IDTracker: no
X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.30p3
Message-ID: <20120724200604.14449.1507.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 13:06:04 -0700
X-BeenThere: ietf-announce@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: "IETF announcement list. No discussions." <ietf-announce.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ietf-announce>,
	<mailto:ietf-announce-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf-announce>
List-Post: <mailto:ietf-announce@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ietf-announce-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce>,
	<mailto:ietf-announce-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
Sender: <ietf-announce-bounces@ietf.org>
Errors-To: ietf-announce-bounces@ietf.org
X-PMX-Version: 5.6.1.2065439, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2012.7.24.195415
Return-Path: ietf-announce-bounces@ietf.org
X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: PEXCVZYH01.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup
X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous
X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AVStamp-Mailbox: Sophos;963479298;0;PM
MIME-Version: 1.0

The NomCom 2012-2013 Call for Volunteers has now passed its halfway point. =
Therefore, if you are considering volunteering to participate in the 2012-2=
013 NomCom, please do so soon.

General information on this year's NomCom (including a list of positions to=
 be filled) can be found at: https://www.ietf.org/nomcom/2012/

The success of the NomCom process depends on randomly selecting a committee=
 that is a representative sample of the our community. We endeavor to have =
a NomCom reflecting the diversity of experience and viewpoints that is our =
community's greatest strength. However, to achieve this goal we must have t=
he largest possible pool of volunteers that from throughout the IETF commun=
ity.

I am pleased to report that we have had a strong initial response to the Fi=
rst Call for Volunteers, with 74 qualified individuals agreeing to voluntee=
r their time. I greatly appreciate the generosity and commitment to our com=
munity exhibited by all of these individuals. However, the pool of voluntee=
rs is not yet as diverse as it should be to reflect the breadth of our comm=
unity with regards to nationality, gender and organizational affiliation. T=
herefore, I would especially encourage to volunteer those individuals whose=
 participation would increase the diversity of our volunteer pool.

If you have volunteered before 12:00 noon UTC on July 24, 2012 and you have=
 not received a confirmation email from me, then an error has occurred and =
I would request that you resend your email.

Details on how to volunteer can be found at the end of this message. To sum=
marize, please volunteer by sending me an email containing your name, affil=
iation, and the email address you use to register for IETF meetings.=20

The 74 qualified individuals who have so far volunteered are listed below. =
  I apologize for any errors in this list, please notify me of any errors a=
s soon as possible.

Sam Aldrin, Huawei
Ignas Bagdonas, Cisco
Lou Berger, LabN Consulting
Randy Bush, IIJ
Dennis Cai, Cisco
Daniele Ceccarelli, Ericsson
Gang Chen, China Mobile
Andras Csaszar, Ericsson
Hui Deng, China Mobile
Keith Drage, Alcatel-Lucent
John Drake, Juniper
Donald Eastlake, Huawei
Charles Eckel, Cisco
Mehmet Ersue, Nokia Siemens Networks
Miguel Garcia, Ericsson
Eric Gray, Ericsson
Wassim Haddad, Ericsson
Stephen Hanna, Juniper
Sam Hartman, Painless Security
Jia He, Huawei
Giles Heron, Cisco
Paul Hoffman, VPN Consortium
Christer Holmberg, Ericsson
Fangwei Hu, ZTE
Andrew Hutton, Siemens Enterprise Communications
Cullen Jennings, Cisco
Yuanlong Jiang, Huawei
Sheng Jiang, Huawei
Lizhong Jin, ZTE
Stephen Kent, BBN
Ari Keranen, Ericsson
Ning Kong, CNNIC
Jouni Korhonen, Nokia Siemens Networks
Mirja Kuehlewind, University of Stuttgart
Eliot Lear, Cisco
Hongyu Li, Huawei
Guoman Liu, ZTE
Wenhu Lu, Ericsson
Yuxia Ma, ZTE
Andrew Malis, Verizon
Terry Manderson, ICANN
Scott Mansfield, Ericsson
Luca Martini, Cisco
David Meyer, Cisco
Monique Morrow, Cisco
Thomas Nadeau, Juniper
Karen O'Donoghue, Internet Society
Borje Ohlman, Ericsson
Keyur Patel, Cisco
Teemu Savolainen, Nokia
Benson Schliesser, Juniper
John Scudder, Juniper
Karen Seo, BBN
Arturo Servin, LACNIC
Shuo (Sean) Shen, CNNIC
David Sini, Ericsson
Haibin Song, Huawei
Tom Taylor, PT Taylor Consulting
Pascal Thubert, Cisco
Mark Townsley, Cisco
Tina Tsou, Huawei
Bill VerSteeg, Cisco
Thomas Walsh, Juniper
Yinxing Wei, ZTE
Stephan Wenger, Vidyo
Magnus Westerlund, Ericsson
Steven White, Alcatel-Lucent
Qin (Bill) Wu, Huawei
Leaf Yeh, Huawei
Lixia Zhang, UCLA
Zhaohui (Jeff) Zhang, Juniper
Yi Zhao, Huawei
Qian (Cathy) Zhou, Huawei
Ning Zong, Huawei

To be eligible, volunteers for the nomcom need to have attended 3 of the pa=
st 5 IETF meetings as of the time this announcement goes out. That is, 3 me=
etings from IETF 79 (Beijing) - IETF 83 (Paris). If you qualify, and if you=
 will not be seeking appointment to any of the open positions that this nom=
com will be filling, please consider volunteering.

The primary activity for this nomcom will begin in August 2012 and should b=
e completed in January 2013. The nomcom will be collecting requirements fro=
m the community, as well as talking to candidates and obtaining feedback fr=
om community members about candidates. There will be regularly scheduled co=
nference calls to ensure progress. Thus, being a nomcom member does require=
 some time commitment.

Please volunteer by sending an email before 11:59 pm EDT (UTC - 4 hours) Au=
gust 5, 2012 as follows:

To: mlepinski.ietf@gmail.com
Subject: Nomcom 2012-13 Volunteer

Please include the following information in the body:

<Your Full Name>  // As you enter in the IETF Registration Form,
                    // First/Given name followed by Last/Family Name
<Current Primary Affiliation>
                // typically what goes in the Company field
                //  in the IETF Registration Form
[<all email addresses used to Register for the past 5 IETF meetings>]
<Preferred email address>  //
<Telephone number>         // For confirmation if selected

Please expect an email response from me within 3 business days stating whet=
her or not you are qualified.  If you don't receive a response, please re-s=
end your email with the tag "RESEND:" added to the subject line.

If you are not yet sure you would like to volunteer, please consider that n=
omcom members play a very important role in shaping the leadership of the I=
ETF.  Ensuring the leadership of the IETF is fair and balanced and comprise=
d of those who can lead the IETF in the right direction is an important res=
ponsibility that rests on the IETF participants at large. Volunteering for =
the nomcom is a good way of contributing toward that goal.

I will be publishing a more detailed timetable for nomcom activities, as we=
ll as details of the randomness seeds to be used for the RFC 3797 selection=
 process, within the next couple days.

Thank you,
Matthew Lepinski
nomcom-chair@ietf.org (or mlepinski.ietf@gmail.com)

--------------000005020600010902050704--

From internet-drafts@ietf.org  Mon Jul 30 17:22:13 2012
Return-Path: <internet-drafts@ietf.org>
X-Original-To: l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: l3vpn@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2C8411E80DE; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 17:22:12 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -102.551
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.551 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.048, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id inceQLoow-2h; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 17:22:11 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4A0711E80D5; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 17:22:11 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
From: internet-drafts@ietf.org
To: i-d-announce@ietf.org
Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-l3vpn-acceptown-community-05.txt
X-Test-IDTracker: no
X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.33
Message-ID: <20120731002211.29718.29610.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 17:22:11 -0700
Cc: l3vpn@ietf.org
X-BeenThere: l3vpn@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: <l3vpn.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/l3vpn>, <mailto:l3vpn-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/l3vpn>
List-Post: <mailto:l3vpn@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:l3vpn-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/l3vpn>, <mailto:l3vpn-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 00:22:13 -0000

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director=
ies.
 This draft is a work item of the Layer 3 Virtual Private Networks Working =
Group of the IETF.

	Title           : BGP ACCEPT_OWN Community Attribute
	Author(s)       : James Uttaro
                          Pradosh Mohapatra
                          David J. Smith
                          Robert Raszuk
                          John Scudder
	Filename        : draft-ietf-l3vpn-acceptown-community-05.txt
	Pages           : 9
	Date            : 2012-07-30

Abstract:
   Under certain conditions it is desirable for a BGP route reflector to
   be able to modify the Route Target list of a VPN route that is
   distributed by the route reflector, enabling the route reflector to
   control how a route originated within one VRF is imported into other
   VRFs.  This technique works effectively as long as the VRF that
   exports the route is not on the same PE as the VRF(s) that import the
   route.  However, due to the constraints of the BGP protocol, it does
   not work if the two are on the same PE.  This document describes a
   modification to the BGP protocol allowing this technique to work when
   the VRFs are on the same PE, allowing the technique to be used in a
   standard manner throughout an autonomous system.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l3vpn-acceptown-community

There's also a htmlized version available at:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l3vpn-acceptown-community-05

A diff from the previous version is available at:
http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-l3vpn-acceptown-community-05


Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/

