Subject: RE: REVIEW NEEDED: draft-ietf-v6ops-ent-analysis-00.txt (fwd)

From: "Bound, Jim" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 16:36:32 -0400

Jonne,

Will do and have to coordinate with authors of course.

/jim 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Soininen Jonne (Nokia-NET/Helsinki) 
> [mailto:[email-masked]] 
> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 4:22 PM
> To: Bound, Jim
> Cc: [email-masked]
> Subject: RE: REVIEW NEEDED: draft-ietf-v6ops-ent-analysis-00.txt (fwd)
> 
> Jim,
> 
> your proposal sounds like a plan. If the WG decides to remain 
> silent until next week, please produce another draft without 
> comments. I guess, the WG will speak up sooner or later! 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Jonne.
> 
> On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 20:33, ext Bound, Jim wrote:
> > Hi Jonne,
> > 
> > Sorry for late response I am traveling yet again.  I agree 
> with what 
> > Tim stated and also the team is ready to go. Before we 
> solidified the 
> > recommendations we wanted the WG to respond as Tim pointed out.  We 
> > can move forward  but that has more risk.  I can present our status 
> > and results at D.C and suggest that I should if you and 
> Pekka agree.  
> > But let us know ok.
> > 
> > Seems like we should move forward.  I suggest we give WG till next 
> > Tuesday to respond ok?  Then we have no choice but to go to 
> next rev.
> > Its to bad we just lost at least 2 weeks from no input of 
> stagnation?
> > 
> > Thanks
> > /jim
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [email-masked]
> > > [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Soininen Jonne
> > > (Nokia-NET/Helsinki)
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 8:33 AM
> > > To: [email-masked]
> > > Subject: Re: REVIEW NEEDED: draft-ietf-v6ops-ent-analysis-00.txt 
> > > (fwd)
> > > 
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > <Chair hat on>
> > > I'm wondering why there are no comments to this draft. To 
> kick-off 
> > > the discussion I'm going to provide some of my own.
> > > However, please, comment the draft! We cannot move 
> forward if people 
> > > don't comment!
> > > <Chair hat off>
> > > 
> > > I'm not going to comment much on the details. As it is the first 
> > > version, I'm just trying to express my opinion on the general 
> > > direction of the draft.
> > > 
> > > First of all, there is a lot of information in the draft 
> about how 
> > > the transition/deployment of IPv6 in enterprise 
> environment is to be 
> > > done.
> > > However, the conclusions seem not to be clearly derivable 
> from the 
> > > text.
> > > I think the goal of the document is to have clear 
> conclusions what 
> > > is expected from the IETF to be done (nothing - everything is 
> > > already done, requirements for transition protocols/mechanisms, 
> > > identifying the protocol needed).
> > > 
> > > I think this is somewhat in the document, but not clearly enough. 
> > > So, what I would like to see is more clearly the link between the 
> > > actual text of the document and the conclusions in the 
> section 8. At 
> > > least to me it is not clear how the conclusions have been reached.
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > 
> > > Jonne.
> > > On Mon, 2004-09-27 at 12:29, ext Pekka Savola wrote:
> > > > Folks,
> > > > 
> > > > (co-chair hat on)
> > > > 
> > > > There haven't been any reviews on the list.  That's not
> > > good.  We need
> > > > the reviews to make this go forward.  Otherwise we cannot
> > > go forward
> > > > with this, and we cannot go forward with the transition
> > > mechanisms for
> > > > the enterprises.
> > > > 
> > > > PLEASE provide feedback ASAP!
> > > > 
> > > > (co-chair hat off)
> > > > 
> > > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > > Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 21:24:32 +0300 (EEST)
> > > > From: Pekka Savola <[email-masked]>
> > > > To: [email-masked]
> > > > Subject: REVIEW NEEDED: draft-ietf-v6ops-ent-analysis-00.txt
> > > > 
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > (co-chair hat on)
> > > > 
> > > > This is the initial draft on Enterprise network analysis,
> > > and is still
> > > > being improved.  We need input from the WG to make it
> > > better.  Please
> > > > read and comment ASAP, preferably within a week.  We hope
> > > to get this
> > > > in the shape for WG last call reasonably soon.
> > > > 
> > > > Again, please send feedback.  This is very important work!
> > > > 
> > > > (hat off)
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 [email-masked] wrote:
> > > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line
> > > Internet-Drafts directories.
> > > > > This draft is a work item of the IPv6 Operations Working
> > > Group of the IETF.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 	Title		: IPv6 Enterprise Network Analysis
> > > > > 	Author(s)	: J. Bound, et al.
> > > > > 	Filename	: draft-ietf-v6ops-ent-analysis-00.txt
> > > > > 	Pages		: 30
> > > > > 	Date		: 2004-9-16
> > > > > 	
> > > > > This document analyzes the transition to IPv6 in enterprise 
> > > > > networks.  These networks are characterized as a network
> > > that has
> > > > > multiple internal links, one or more router connections,
> > > to one or
> > > > > more Providers, and is managed by a network operations
> > > entity.  The
> > > > > analysis will focus on a base set of transition units and 
> > > > > requirements expanded from a previous Enterprise Scenarios 
> > > > > document, and will depict a set of components and transition 
> > > > > methods required for the enterprise to transition to 
> IPv6 within 
> > > > > each scenario and then common to all scenarios.
> > > > > 
> > > > > A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
> > > > > 
> > > 
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-v6ops-ent-analysis-00
> > > > > .txt
> > > > [...]
> > > > 
> > > --
> > > Jonne Soininen
> > > Nokia
> > > 
> > > Tel: +358 40 527 46 34
> > > E-mail: [email-masked]
> > > 
> > > 
> --
> Jonne Soininen
> Nokia
> 
> Tel: +358 40 527 46 34
> E-mail: [email-masked]
>