From bob.hinden@gmail.com Mon Sep 13 17:10:58 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FBEA3A6830 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 17:10:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.561 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.561 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.181, BAYES_00=-2.599, TVD_SPACE_RATIO=2.219, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DkQLB1vDqC4o for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 17:10:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pw0-f44.google.com (mail-pw0-f44.google.com [209.85.160.44]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02D063A684A for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 17:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pwi1 with SMTP id 1so3063947pwi.31 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; 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Mon, 13 Sep 2010 17:11:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Hinden Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 17:11:14 -0700 Message-Id: <03E38E80-554F-4EB4-BC58-D02524A2E9F6@gmail.com> To: 79attendees@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Subject: [79attendees] Test X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 00:10:58 -0000 123 From dromasca@avaya.com Wed Sep 15 04:52:04 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 430173A6BC4 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 04:52:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.5 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.5 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.099, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ko+VrPzOaO4J for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 04:52:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p-us1-iereast-outbound-tmp.us1.avaya.com (nj300815-nj-outbound.net.avaya.com [135.11.29.16]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47FB93A6BC1 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 04:52:03 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,371,1280721600"; d="scan'208";a="34704960" Received: from unknown (HELO co300216-co-erhwest.avaya.com) ([198.152.7.5]) by p-us1-iereast-outbound-tmp.us1.avaya.com with ESMTP; 15 Sep 2010 07:52:10 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,370,1280721600"; d="scan'208";a="516448835" Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.12]) by co300216-co-erhwest-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 15 Sep 2010 07:52:10 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 13:51:40 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Testing the list Thread-Index: ActUzFxRXEYrNXaQQkCYUg/i5wLyzA== From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: <79attendees@ietf.org> Subject: [79attendees] Testing the list X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 11:52:04 -0000 I apologize for the spam - I am testing if the list is up and whether I am subscribed.=20 Dan From stpeter@stpeter.im Wed Sep 15 05:11:29 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9463E3A6BE4 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 05:11:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.488 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.488 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.111, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MrV48lXwGBPe for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 05:11:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stpeter.im (stpeter.im [207.210.219.233]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF5CA3A6BD8 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 05:11:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from squire.local (dsl-228-11.dynamic-dsl.frii.net [216.17.228.11]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BCF62400EE for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 06:15:52 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <4C90B7F7.5050408@stpeter.im> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 06:11:35 -0600 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.12) Gecko/20100824 Thunderbird/3.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 79attendees@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 OpenPGP: url=http://www.saint-andre.com/me/stpeter.asc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [79attendees] Testing the list X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 12:11:29 -0000 On 9/15/10 5:51 AM, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: > I apologize for the spam - I am testing if the list is up and whether I > am subscribed. Yep. Now folks can start complaining about a venue on an entirely different continent! ;-) From dromasca@avaya.com Wed Sep 15 05:14:39 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1DC13A6BC3 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 05:14:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.501 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.501 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.098, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4n3iCIqptBxp for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 05:14:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com (co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.13.100]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C66EB3A6BCE for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 05:14:34 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,371,1280721600"; d="scan'208";a="238034612" Received: from unknown (HELO co300216-co-erhwest.avaya.com) ([198.152.7.5]) by co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 15 Sep 2010 08:15:00 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,371,1280721600"; d="scan'208";a="516458435" Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.12]) by co300216-co-erhwest-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 15 Sep 2010 08:14:59 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 14:14:38 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4C90B7F7.5050408@stpeter.im> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [79attendees] Testing the list Thread-Index: ActUzzMU57y9D299QZWnAhbX/0bVfgAADcsQ References: <4C90B7F7.5050408@stpeter.im> From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: "Peter Saint-Andre" , <79attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [79attendees] Testing the list X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 12:14:39 -0000 Maybe what is needed is something like a meeting-venues@ietf.org list, so that the xxatendees@ietf.org can focus on ietf-xx.=20 Dan =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: 79attendees-bounces@ietf.org=20 > [mailto:79attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Peter Saint-Andre > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 2:12 PM > To: 79attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [79attendees] Testing the list >=20 > On 9/15/10 5:51 AM, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: > > I apologize for the spam - I am testing if the list is up=20 > and whether=20 > > I am subscribed. >=20 > Yep. Now folks can start complaining about a venue on an=20 > entirely different continent! ;-) >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 79attendees mailing list > 79attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees >=20 From eburger@standardstrack.com Wed Sep 15 06:54:47 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E31523A697B for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 06:54:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.98 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.98 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.619, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ypyPCFNMczv5 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 06:54:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gs19.inmotionhosting.com (gs19.inmotionhosting.com [205.134.249.249]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D1963A6954 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 06:54:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=standardstrack.com; h=Received:From:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:To:References:Message-Id:X-Mailer:X-Source:X-Source-Args:X-Source-Dir; b=WgZ9cGk81RNpRQ3Mz2YAclGwSRgjRXSA2jxTj3iUUPNtDCUxvfca1FyFD2VYr1JlzIIMf/njU9eBlVCxMKkdie8HzKUQC5nIRml6jD7W1l34RjJQmfnxToS5YpKqFmdQ; Received: from [192.88.107.100] (helo=[192.168.88.133]) by gs19.inmotionhosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OvsR4-0001Ls-Dw for 79attendees@ietf.org; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 06:54:06 -0700 From: Eric Burger Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-57--838457090; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 09:55:04 -0400 In-Reply-To: To: 79attendees@ietf.org References: <4C90B7F7.5050408@stpeter.im> Message-Id: <00B29803-5489-4251-B20C-089C7E2D999B@standardstrack.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gs19.inmotionhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - standardstrack.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: [79attendees] Testing the list X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 13:54:48 -0000 --Apple-Mail-57--838457090 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii But please, no xxx-attendees, unless we can register the .xxx domain. On Sep 15, 2010, at 8:14 AM, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: > Maybe what is needed is something like a meeting-venues@ietf.org list, > so that the xxatendees@ietf.org can focus on ietf-xx. > > Dan > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: 79attendees-bounces@ietf.org >> [mailto:79attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Peter Saint-Andre >> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 2:12 PM >> To: 79attendees@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [79attendees] Testing the list >> >> On 9/15/10 5:51 AM, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: >>> I apologize for the spam - I am testing if the list is up >> and whether >>> I am subscribed. >> >> Yep. 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Thu, 16 Sep 2010 00:17:04 +0200 X-SourceIP: 77.250.51.60 Message-ID: <4C9145DE.2070605@chello.nl> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 00:17:02 +0200 From: Huub van Helvoort User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 79attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=V15LrGZDFsIOLQGhFSBQucROxfiwgIeIJ7AmZ+xKGd4= c=1 sm=0 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=Q95q-qQgAAAA:8 a=OLZQc8AWAAAA:8 a=6niSb5erH4g6C5vdNzoA:9 a=bSJROPBAJHXJmVja1VYA:7 a=SPAPBRkJyTafc9rLPQPgcvuy9CgA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Subject: [79attendees] taxi in Beijing X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: hhelvoort@chello.nl List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 22:17:24 -0000 FYI: This is what I always do when I travel to China: Ask a colleague to send me an email with the name *and* address of the hotel, or the meeting place. I print this and take it with me to show the taxi driver so he knows where to go. For this meeting it could be put as a page on the meeting website for everybody to print. Also note the following: always take one of the green/yellow colored taxis (if you want to pay the normal rate). http://autonews.gasgoo.com/resource/editor/taxi.jpg At the airport go to the taxirank outside and take one of these taxis. *DON't* be fooled by the crowd inside the terminal that tries to offer you taxi ride . Cheers, Huub. -- ================================================================ http://www.van-helvoort.eu/ ================================================================ Always remember that you are unique...just like everyone else... From tsridhar@force10networks.com Wed Sep 15 15:30:26 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05F903A6A8A for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:30:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.071 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.071 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.528, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ersjBrrIRIBu for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:30:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.force10networks.com (corp.force10networks.com [64.186.164.204]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 173183A6A01 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:30:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from EXCH-CLUSTER-09.force10networks.com ([10.11.10.113]) by exch7-sjc-fe.force10networks.com ([10.11.0.87]) with mapi; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:30:49 -0700 From: T Sridhar To: "79attendees@ietf.org" <79attendees@ietf.org> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:30:48 -0700 Thread-Topic: [79attendees] taxi in Beijing Thread-Index: ActVI9dkw3SFxvFgTTat0EO+I2kGLQAAZspA Message-ID: <016D6D95AF0949478938DD97B5218DE6021802E51A8F@EXCH-CLUSTER-09.force10networks.com> References: <4C9145DE.2070605@chello.nl> In-Reply-To: <4C9145DE.2070605@chello.nl> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [79attendees] taxi in Beijing X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 22:30:26 -0000 This information is available on the hotel site (upon clicking the link on = the http://www.ietf.org/meeting/79/hotel.html page): http://www.shangri-la.com/en/property/beijing/shangrila/infocard Thanks, Sridhar -----Original Message----- From: 79attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:79attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of Huub van Helvoort Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 3:17 PM To: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: [79attendees] taxi in Beijing FYI: This is what I always do when I travel to China: Ask a colleague to send me an email with the name *and* address of the hotel, or the meeting place. I print this and take it with me to show the taxi driver so he knows where to go. For this meeting it could be put as a page on the meeting website for everybody to print. Also note the following: always take one of the green/yellow colored taxis (if you want to pay the normal rate). http://autonews.gasgoo.com/resource/editor/taxi.jpg At the airport go to the taxirank outside and take one of these taxis. *DON't* be fooled by the crowd inside the terminal that tries to offer you taxi ride . Cheers, Huub. --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://www.van-helvoort.eu/ =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Always remember that you are unique...just like everyone else... _______________________________________________ 79attendees mailing list 79attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees From ole@cisco.com Wed Sep 15 17:06:36 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 951EA3A696C for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:06:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -110.531 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-110.531 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.068, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K+jycNNIncts for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:06:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com (sj-iport-5.cisco.com [171.68.10.87]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F1A43A685D for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:06:35 -0700 (PDT) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-5.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAI38kEyrRN+K/2dsb2JhbAChc3GrJ4ImDAGaFoMKgjcEhEqBJIN6RA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,373,1280707200"; d="scan'208";a="255984669" Received: from sj-core-4.cisco.com ([171.68.223.138]) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 16 Sep 2010 00:06:59 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-4.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o8G06xSk019819; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 00:06:59 GMT Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:06:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Ole Jacobsen To: T Sridhar In-Reply-To: <016D6D95AF0949478938DD97B5218DE6021802E51A8F@EXCH-CLUSTER-09.force10networks.com> Message-ID: References: <4C9145DE.2070605@chello.nl> <016D6D95AF0949478938DD97B5218DE6021802E51A8F@EXCH-CLUSTER-09.force10networks.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: "79attendees@ietf.org" <79attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [79attendees] taxi in Beijing X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 00:06:36 -0000 And this is a good reminder that the IETF is NOT at the Shangri-La Kerry Centre Hotel, look at the infocard. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj On Wed, 15 Sep 2010, T Sridhar wrote: > This information is available on the hotel site (upon clicking the > link on the http://www.ietf.org/meeting/79/hotel.html page): > > http://www.shangri-la.com/en/property/beijing/shangrila/infocard > > Thanks, > Sridhar > From denghui02@gmail.com Wed Sep 15 18:33:30 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6159B3A67FA for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 18:33:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.237 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.237 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.361, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qBOjBLVIP-Ej for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 18:33:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f172.google.com (mail-iw0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 987163A6864 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 18:33:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by iwn3 with SMTP id 3so698442iwn.31 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 18:33:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=cwGw+wOvD7thHhqOM9svhnsc1Q0VDbQ7ybfgFDKoZeU=; b=uE7blp0E9FeyYqsuf3EtddwDT/I4loCgIvf9CNnFQ3ni70b0WtZF3u2YohCEzgDK8U fkOWyjg0bt4579FgCH3FtYzHig4VhH7PTLOgyqvfePtMa9W7qe09S+z56bVL1jztYiLR hX0qLhSluBrhGg9xy1sz8IAyXsVufjiZFKZ+8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=iEB4SJe7PMn3TmIa268pyQUd+KAR0ti8l6llhC28dVjl6O4rzaEDDvipKokRnNF5Vx H3Ry43HaCK+rLPyvA/1ua+UKOGes+jqmUe4/QD/EZAuBpnTDF1d/ZTP3t8lBlrLCvP0C 62F/23GxP1XLqdkJh2GyRzXYigGTFXI0KXzz8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.167.67 with SMTP id p3mr2689628iby.20.1284600832733; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 18:33:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.153.146 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 18:33:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4C9145DE.2070605@chello.nl> <016D6D95AF0949478938DD97B5218DE6021802E51A8F@EXCH-CLUSTER-09.force10networks.com> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 09:33:52 +0800 Message-ID: From: Hui Deng To: Ole Jacobsen Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a7a55030810490567045 Cc: "79attendees@ietf.org" <79attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [79attendees] taxi in Beijing X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 01:33:30 -0000 --001636c5a7a55030810490567045 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 My recommendation (speaking as local) 1) download infocard with PDF version from http://www.shangri-la.com/en/property/beijing/shangrila/infocard 2) print out and take with you 3) show to taxi driver in airport ( you need wait in queue for sometime) 4) In case he doesn't know , ask driver to call the hotel by using your paper, I believe every taxi driver has a phone (or ask dispatcher people for help in taxi waiting zone) 5) It need about 100RMB(taxi meter shows) +10RMB (highway fee), anyway it depends on traffic. 6) after arrival, ask for printed taxi receipt in case something forget left. Regards, -Hui 2010/9/16 Ole Jacobsen > > And this is a good reminder that the IETF is NOT at the Shangri-La > Kerry Centre Hotel, look at the infocard. > > Ole > > > Ole J. Jacobsen > Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal > Cisco Systems > Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 > E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj > > > > On Wed, 15 Sep 2010, T Sridhar wrote: > > > This information is available on the hotel site (upon clicking the > > link on the http://www.ietf.org/meeting/79/hotel.html page): > > > > http://www.shangri-la.com/en/property/beijing/shangrila/infocard > > > > Thanks, > > Sridhar > > > _______________________________________________ > 79attendees mailing list > 79attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees > --001636c5a7a55030810490567045 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My recommendation (speaking as local)
1) download infocard with PDF version from
2) print out and take=A0with you
3) show to taxi driver in airport ( you need wait in queue=A0for somet= ime)
4) In case he doesn't know , ask driver to call the hotel by us= ing your paper,
=A0=A0=A0=A0 I believe every taxi driver has a phone (or ask dispatche= r people for help in taxi waiting zone)
5) It need about 100RMB(taxi meter shows) +10RMB (highway fee), anyway= it depends on traffic.
6) after arrival, ask for printed taxi receipt i= n case something=A0forget left.
=A0
Regards,
=A0
-Hui
=A0
2010/9/16 Ole Jacobsen <ole@cisco.com>

And this is a good reminder = that the IETF is NOT at the Shangri-La
Kerry Centre Hotel, look at the i= nfocard.

Ole


Ole J. Jacobsen
Editor and Publisher, =A0The Internet= Protocol Journal
Cisco Systems
Tel: +1 408-527-8972 =A0 Mobile: +1 4= 15-370-4628
E-mail: ole@cisco.com = =A0URL: http://www.c= isco.com/ipj



On Wed, 15 Sep 2010, T Sridhar wrote:

= > This information is available on the hotel site (upon clicking the
= > link on the http://www.ietf.org/meeting/79/hotel.html page):
>
> http://www.shangri-la.com/en/property/beij= ing/shangrila/infocard
>
> Thanks,
> Sridhar
><= br>
_______________________________________________
79atte= ndees mailing list
79attendees@i= etf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees

--001636c5a7a55030810490567045-- From denghui02@gmail.com Wed Sep 15 18:50:48 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 834213A6AF0 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 18:50:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.25 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.25 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.348, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WZwaGEFsFu1z for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 18:50:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f172.google.com (mail-iw0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E68273A67E5 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 18:50:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by iwn3 with SMTP id 3so712683iwn.31 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 18:51:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=xC5ezBcg3jgZHx3FbzI0/0zsnQW7VWjTuGkjTQmQxxM=; b=HCX+k4yuT4XC8Bfd2u+uM5KfkXGasNPTXALXy3ORCunUpI/BYjbj3qQU/D6Y3G4nM4 M4gVQNprcVFB+5FxPO5x8yAkqU+ys2ngdUeTd45naRSJWXQFFdHiQbKsy3c6H60U1hJA eEYIinlhHEdQkE2d4pp297VLtTRhjUrL6pBdc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=WHaUl1fjx6UDya8ss4Cdwk/gewqxLKgXb1aPGyw8FjylmJd2Q8kpNab6hqdduGXuQE x1Bhx03rEb0+zDEUCY29LoJSYNGceV5O51obisIPpoO9uOirNZUIqyBI+HOKuR4aKT12 GSX2fVrRoccwjrRNDSlwui4l59UnqK+wIAVT8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.168.21 with SMTP id s21mr2550464iby.123.1284601868526; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 18:51:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.153.146 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 18:51:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4C9145DE.2070605@chello.nl> <016D6D95AF0949478938DD97B5218DE6021802E51A8F@EXCH-CLUSTER-09.force10networks.com> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 09:51:08 +0800 Message-ID: From: Hui Deng To: Ole Jacobsen Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c92e9c0d2311049056ae10 Cc: "79attendees@ietf.org" <79attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [79attendees] taxi in Beijing X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 01:50:48 -0000 --001636c92e9c0d2311049056ae10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 One more thing, thanks Brian's remindness. adding credit card issue. My recommendation (speaking as local) 1) download infocard with PDF version from http://www.shangri-la.com/en/property/beijing/shangrila/infocard 2) print out and take with you 3) exchange some cash>150RMB (RMB) before going out (Taxi don't take the credit card) 4) show to taxi driver in airport ( you need wait in queue for sometime) 5) In case he doesn't know , ask driver to call the hotel by using your paper, I believe every taxi driver has a phone (or ask dispatcher people for help in taxi waiting zone) 6) It need about 100RMB(taxi meter shows) +10RMB (highway fee), anyway it depends on traffic. 7) after arrival, ask for printed taxi receipt in case something forget left. Regards, -Hui 2010/9/16 Hui Deng > My recommendation (speaking as local) > 1) download infocard with PDF version from > http://www.shangri-la.com/en/property/beijing/shangrila/infocard > 2) print out and take with you > 3) show to taxi driver in airport ( you need wait in queue for sometime) > 4) In case he doesn't know , ask driver to call the hotel by using your > paper, > I believe every taxi driver has a phone (or ask dispatcher people for > help in taxi waiting zone) > 5) It need about 100RMB(taxi meter shows) +10RMB (highway fee), anyway it > depends on traffic. > 6) after arrival, ask for printed taxi receipt in case something forget > left. > > Regards, > > -Hui > > 2010/9/16 Ole Jacobsen > >> >> And this is a good reminder that the IETF is NOT at the Shangri-La >> Kerry Centre Hotel, look at the infocard. >> >> Ole >> >> >> Ole J. Jacobsen >> Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal >> Cisco Systems >> Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 >> E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj >> >> >> >> On Wed, 15 Sep 2010, T Sridhar wrote: >> >> > This information is available on the hotel site (upon clicking the >> > link on the http://www.ietf.org/meeting/79/hotel.html page): >> > >> > http://www.shangri-la.com/en/property/beijing/shangrila/infocard >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Sridhar >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> 79attendees mailing list >> 79attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees >> > > --001636c92e9c0d2311049056ae10 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
One more thing, thanks Brian's remindness. adding credit card issu= e.

My recommendation (speaking as local)
1) download infocard with PDF version from
2) print out and take=A0with you
3) exchange some cash>150RMB (RMB) before going out (Taxi don't= take the credit card)
4) show to taxi driver in airport ( you need wait in queue=A0for somet= ime)
5) In case he doesn't know , ask driver to call the hotel by us= ing your paper,
=A0=A0=A0=A0 I believe every taxi driver has a phone (or ask dispatche= r people for help in taxi waiting zone)
6) It need about 100RMB(taxi meter shows) +10RMB (highway fee), anyway= it depends on traffic.
7) after arrival, ask for printed taxi receipt i= n case something=A0forget left.

Regards,
=A0
-Hui
=A0
2010/9/16 Hui Deng <denghui02@gmail.com>
My recommendation (speaking as local)
1) download infocard with PDF version from
2) print out and take=A0with you
3) show to taxi driver in airport ( you need wait in queue=A0for somet= ime)
4) In case he doesn't know , ask driver to call the hotel by us= ing your paper,
=A0=A0=A0=A0 I believe every taxi driver has a phone (or ask dispatche= r people for help in taxi waiting zone)
5) It need about 100RMB(taxi meter shows) +10RMB (highway fee), anyway= it depends on traffic.
6) after arrival, ask for printed taxi receipt i= n case something=A0forget left.
=A0
Regards,
=A0
-Hui
=A0
2010/9/16 Ole Jacobsen <ole@cisco.com>

And this is a good reminder = that the IETF is NOT at the Shangri-La
Kerry Centre Hotel, look at the i= nfocard.

Ole


Ole J. Jacobsen
Editor and Publisher, =A0The Internet= Protocol Journal
Cisco Systems
Tel: +1 408-527-8972 =A0 Mobile: +1 4= 15-370-4628
E-mail: o= le@cisco.com =A0URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj



On Wed, 15 Sep 2010, T Sridhar wrote:

> This inf= ormation is available on the hotel site (upon clicking the
> link on = the http://www.ietf.org/meeting/79/hotel.html page):
>
> http://www.shangri-la.com/en/property/beij= ing/shangrila/infocard
>
> Thanks,
> Sridhar
><= br>
_______________________________________________
79attendees mailing= list
79attend= ees@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees<= /a>


--001636c92e9c0d2311049056ae10-- From christer.holmberg@ericsson.com Wed Sep 15 22:28:54 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69A3E3A68A6 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 22:28:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.671 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.671 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.927, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NQoIcZzJniLS for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 22:28:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw9.se.ericsson.net (mailgw9.se.ericsson.net [193.180.251.57]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFAFE3A67E1 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 22:28:51 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb39-b7b0bae000000f9a-fc-4c91ab2b12e2 Received: from esessmw0237.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.125]) by mailgw9.se.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 46.4B.03994.B2BA19C4; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 07:29:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from esessmw0191.eemea.ericsson.se (153.88.115.84) by esessmw0237.eemea.ericsson.se (153.88.115.90) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.2.234.1; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 07:29:15 +0200 Received: from ESESSCMS0356.eemea.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.78]) by esessmw0191.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.115.84]) with mapi; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 07:29:15 +0200 From: Christer Holmberg To: Hui Deng , Ole Jacobsen Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 07:29:14 +0200 Thread-Topic: [79attendees] taxi in Beijing Thread-Index: ActVQadxd2R+T4a2SO+i7Dh0zq3J0QAHitCg Message-ID: <7F2072F1E0DE894DA4B517B93C6A0585016CE5A6@ESESSCMS0356.eemea.ericsson.se> References: <4C9145DE.2070605@chello.nl> <016D6D95AF0949478938DD97B5218DE6021802E51A8F@EXCH-CLUSTER-09.force10networks.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7F2072F1E0DE894DA4B517B93C6A0585016CE5A6ESESSCMS0356eem_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: "79attendees@ietf.org" <79attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [79attendees] taxi in Beijing X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 05:28:54 -0000 --_000_7F2072F1E0DE894DA4B517B93C6A0585016CE5A6ESESSCMS0356eem_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Also note that the hotel (and other companies) can organize airport transpo= rt. It costs more than a taxi, bou know what the price is going to be (most= ly it can be added to the hotel bill), and on arrival there will be a guy w= aiting for you at the airport. Regards, Christer ________________________________ From: 79attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:79attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of Hui Deng Sent: 16. syyskuuta 2010 4:51 To: Ole Jacobsen Cc: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [79attendees] taxi in Beijing One more thing, thanks Brian's remindness. adding credit card issue. My recommendation (speaking as local) 1) download infocard with PDF version from http://www.shangri-la.com/en/property/beijing/shangrila/infocard 2) print out and take with you 3) exchange some cash>150RMB (RMB) before going out (Taxi don't take the cr= edit card) 4) show to taxi driver in airport ( you need wait in queue for sometime) 5) In case he doesn't know , ask driver to call the hotel by using your pap= er, I believe every taxi driver has a phone (or ask dispatcher people for = help in taxi waiting zone) 6) It need about 100RMB(taxi meter shows) +10RMB (highway fee), anyway it d= epends on traffic. 7) after arrival, ask for printed taxi receipt in case something forget lef= t. Regards, -Hui 2010/9/16 Hui Deng > My recommendation (speaking as local) 1) download infocard with PDF version from http://www.shangri-la.com/en/property/beijing/shangrila/infocard 2) print out and take with you 3) show to taxi driver in airport ( you need wait in queue for sometime) 4) In case he doesn't know , ask driver to call the hotel by using your pap= er, I believe every taxi driver has a phone (or ask dispatcher people for = help in taxi waiting zone) 5) It need about 100RMB(taxi meter shows) +10RMB (highway fee), anyway it d= epends on traffic. 6) after arrival, ask for printed taxi receipt in case something forget lef= t. Regards, -Hui 2010/9/16 Ole Jacobsen > And this is a good reminder that the IETF is NOT at the Shangri-La Kerry Centre Hotel, look at the infocard. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj On Wed, 15 Sep 2010, T Sridhar wrote: > This information is available on the hotel site (upon clicking the > link on the http://www.ietf.org/meeting/79/hotel.html page): > > http://www.shangri-la.com/en/property/beijing/shangrila/infocard > > Thanks, > Sridhar > _______________________________________________ 79attendees mailing list 79attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees --_000_7F2072F1E0DE894DA4B517B93C6A0585016CE5A6ESESSCMS0356eem_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
Also note that the hotel (and other=20 companies) can organize airport transport. It costs more than a taxi, = bou=20 know what the price is going to be (mostly it can be added to the hotel bil= l),=20 and on arrival there will be a guy waiting for you at the=20 airport.
 
Regards,
 
Christer

From: 79attendees-bounces@ietf.org=20 [mailto:79attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Hui=20 Deng
Sent: 16. syyskuuta 2010 4:51
To: Ole=20 Jacobsen
Cc: 79attendees@ietf.org
Subject: Re:=20 [79attendees] taxi in Beijing

One more thing, thanks Brian's remindness. adding credit card=20 issue.

My recommendation (speaking as local)
1) download infocard with PDF version from
2) print out and take with you
3) exchange some cash>150RMB (RMB) before going out (Taxi don't t= ake=20 the credit card)
4) show to taxi driver in airport ( you need wait in queue for= =20 sometime)
5) In case he doesn't know , ask driver to call the hotel by= =20 using your paper,
     I believe every taxi driver has a phone (or= ask=20 dispatcher people for help in taxi waiting zone)
6) It need about 100RMB(taxi meter shows) +10RMB (highway fee), anyw= ay it=20 depends on traffic.
7) after arrival, ask for printed taxi receipt in = case=20 something forget left.

Regards,
 
-Hui
 
2010/9/16 Hui Deng <denghui02@gmail.com>
My recommendation (speaking as local)
1) download infocard with PDF version from
     http://www.shangri-la.com/en/property/beijing/shangrila= /infocard
2) print out and take with you
3) show to taxi driver in airport ( you need wait in queue fo= r=20 sometime)
4) In case he doesn't know , ask driver to call the hotel = by=20 using your paper,
     I believe every taxi driver has a phone (= or=20 ask dispatcher people for help in taxi waiting zone)
5) It need about 100RMB(taxi meter shows) +10RMB (highway fee), an= yway=20 it depends on traffic.
6) after arrival, ask for printed taxi receip= t in=20 case something forget left.
 
Regards,
 
-Hui
 
2010/9/16 Ole Jacobsen <ole@cisco.com>

And=20 this is a good reminder that the IETF is NOT at the Shangri-La
Ker= ry=20 Centre Hotel, look at the infocard.

Ole


Ole J.=20 Jacobsen
Editor and Publisher,  The Internet Protocol=20 Journal
Cisco Systems
Tel: +1 408-527-8972   Mobile: +1=20 415-370-4628
E-mail: ole@cisco.com  URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj



On Wed, 15 Sep 2010, T Sridhar wrote:

> Th= is=20 information is available on the hotel site (upon clicking the
>= link=20 on the http://www.ietf.org/meeting/79/hotel.html=20 page):
>
> http://www.shangri-la.com/en/property/beijing/shangri= la/infocard
>
>=20 Thanks,
> Sridhar
>
_______________________________________________
79attendees=20 mailing list
79attendees@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees=


= --_000_7F2072F1E0DE894DA4B517B93C6A0585016CE5A6ESESSCMS0356eem_-- From ole@cisco.com Wed Sep 15 22:46:59 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3E623A6897 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 22:46:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -110.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-110.54 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.059, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0VtOcLyhyyVJ for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 22:46:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-1.cisco.com (sj-iport-1.cisco.com [171.71.176.70]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A37E63A688F for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 22:46:58 -0700 (PDT) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-1.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAPdLkUyrR7Ht/2dsb2JhbAChdnGoH4ImDAGaE4MKgjcEhEqBJIN6RA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,375,1280707200"; d="scan'208";a="362388269" Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com ([171.71.177.237]) by sj-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 16 Sep 2010 05:47:24 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o8G5lNMZ011419; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 05:47:23 GMT Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 22:47:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Ole Jacobsen To: Christer Holmberg In-Reply-To: <7F2072F1E0DE894DA4B517B93C6A0585016CE5A6@ESESSCMS0356.eemea.ericsson.se> Message-ID: References: <4C9145DE.2070605@chello.nl> <016D6D95AF0949478938DD97B5218DE6021802E51A8F@EXCH-CLUSTER-09.force10networks.com> <7F2072F1E0DE894DA4B517B93C6A0585016CE5A6@ESESSCMS0356.eemea.ericsson.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: "79attendees@ietf.org" <79attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [79attendees] taxi in Beijing X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 05:47:00 -0000 Very true and certainly my preferred option. There is nothing quite as reassuring as seeing a driver with your name on a card waiting in the arrivals hall after all that flying to a foreign country. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj On Thu, 16 Sep 2010, Christer Holmberg wrote: > Hi, > > Also note that the hotel (and other companies) can organize airport > transport. It costs more than a taxi, bou know what the price is > going to be (mostly it can be added to the hotel bill), and on > arrival there will be a guy waiting for you at the airport. > > Regards, > > Christer > From barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com Wed Sep 15 23:07:57 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 875AF3A68D1 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 23:07:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.119 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.119 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.009, BAYES_05=-1.11] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tdEu46Zvrstu for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 23:07:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yx0-f172.google.com (mail-yx0-f172.google.com [209.85.213.172]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E4483A688F for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 23:07:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yxl31 with SMTP id 31so424134yxl.31 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 23:08:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2n2+Nlg6QGLoFLyGXQ9y3spDcbLqWFXOv6iyvz3zLpM=; b=t9PmdpDhJmehRyR3Wk1yozG0G5OXFE8k+b5X0ESKZwx2IhZnx4j4oVAorwm8jG4bIu plOvkFJRRoQ+SPT5Oj/F1WT/w4FwoIOJOpWPjXrBgNmeB4A73RG236X7RiSIHHi96MQd NUinh1VYAIFGmc5U/7aBxzc3Nxh6NeYclZgRw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=sfvz7Z8aNeb3NkTUXoEvAWAGX/Shz+NBK5+T4gEeQAdtKgmq1Wimj+hntrurn2b4OI 5dlKFsvhYLNyt8r3zyG/b8bGzP5oHcGQmj5eHlkFoLlxYiTQGe9Odx8CYlTn0McYEVIR 82XgDq0eQuFGFJDj3sMKAcTItt+p966nDAxHo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.80.4 with SMTP id d4mr2089102agb.12.1284617294638; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 23:08:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.8.196 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 23:08:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 02:08:14 -0400 Message-ID: From: Barry Leiba To: 79attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: [79attendees] Getting RMB at the airport X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: barryleiba@computer.org List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 06:07:57 -0000 What is the best way for us to get RMB at the airport? Are there ATMs that will take foreign (US) ATM cards? Should we use a money changing desk instead? Barry From dcai@cisco.com Wed Sep 15 23:20:22 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D98BE3A6AA7 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 23:20:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Hti9Z20O1-cj for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 23:20:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32DAD3A68CB for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 23:20:13 -0700 (PDT) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-6.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAGZUkUyrR7Ht/2dsb2JhbAChdnGnGJxHhUEEhEqIZg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,375,1280707200"; d="scan'208";a="590042696" Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com ([171.71.177.237]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 16 Sep 2010 06:20:37 +0000 Received: from xbh-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-211.cisco.com [171.70.151.144]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o8G6KaYJ000284; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 06:20:37 GMT Received: from xmb-sjc-237.amer.cisco.com ([128.107.191.123]) by xbh-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 15 Sep 2010 23:20:36 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 23:20:34 -0700 Message-ID: <9F6983FDF628744193C9268DB08B97B7017D3835@xmb-sjc-237.amer.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [79attendees] Getting RMB at the airport Thread-Index: ActVZZOiZCtZ0QF3RU+DlLnUV9EiOQAAVOuQ References: From: "Dennis Cai (dcai)" To: , <79attendees@ietf.org> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Sep 2010 06:20:37.0112 (UTC) FILETIME=[46FC3F80:01CB5567] Subject: Re: [79attendees] Getting RMB at the airport X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 06:20:22 -0000 There is Citibank ATM in the airport, so you can get RMB.=20 -----Original Message----- From: 79attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:79attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Barry Leiba Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:08 PM To: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: [79attendees] Getting RMB at the airport What is the best way for us to get RMB at the airport? Are there ATMs that will take foreign (US) ATM cards? Should we use a money changing desk instead? Barry _______________________________________________ 79attendees mailing list 79attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees From verozheng@huawei.com Wed Sep 15 23:39:54 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC03E3A677E for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 23:39:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.771 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.771 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-2.766, BAYES_05=-1.11, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h9QzCWo9Huay for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 23:39:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from szxga03-in.huawei.com (unknown [119.145.14.66]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FB083A67E1 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 23:39:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (szxga03-in [172.24.2.9]) by szxga03-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0L8T00JXHUFW7H@szxga03-in.huawei.com> for 79attendees@ietf.org; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:38:20 +0800 (CST) Received: from z50128a ([10.110.98.60]) by szxga03-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0L8T00A7SUFT7N@szxga03-in.huawei.com> for 79attendees@ietf.org; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:38:20 +0800 (CST) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:38:16 +0800 From: Vero Zheng In-reply-to: <9F6983FDF628744193C9268DB08B97B7017D3835@xmb-sjc-237.amer.cisco.com> To: "Dennis Cai (dcai)" , barryleiba@computer.org, 79attendees@ietf.org Message-id: <01E597F05DEB4DCBA9456FD4AD06A43C@z50128a> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_uA2GN0u+5gKLeIcHWLOTnA)" Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <9F6983FDF628744193C9268DB08B97B7017D3835@xmb-sjc-237.amer.cisco.com> Subject: Re: [79attendees] Getting RMB at the airport X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 06:39:55 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_uA2GN0u+5gKLeIcHWLOTnA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT According to the Beijing Capital International Airport website, there are both ATMs and counters available at Terminal 2 and 3. See the pointer below for the exchange counters' location. http://en.bcia.com.cn/ecoservice/exchange.shtml Vero -------------------------------------------------- From: "Dennis Cai (dcai)" Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:20 PM To: ; <79attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [79attendees] Getting RMB at the airport > There is Citibank ATM in the airport, so you can get RMB. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: 79attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:79attendees-bounces@ietf.org] > On Behalf Of Barry Leiba > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:08 PM > To: 79attendees@ietf.org > Subject: [79attendees] Getting RMB at the airport > > What is the best way for us to get RMB at the airport? > Are there ATMs that will take foreign (US) ATM cards? > Should we use a money changing desk instead? > > Barry > _______________________________________________ > 79attendees mailing list > 79attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees > _______________________________________________ > 79attendees mailing list > 79attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees --Boundary_(ID_uA2GN0u+5gKLeIcHWLOTnA) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
According to the Beijing Capital International Airport website, there are both ATMs and counters available at Terminal 2 and 3.
See the pointer below for the exchange counters' location.
http://en.bcia.com.cn/ecoservice/exchange.shtml
 
Vero

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> There is Citibank ATM in the airport, so you can get RMB.
>
>
>
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> What is the best way for us to get RMB at the airport?
> Are there ATMs that will take foreign (US) ATM cards?
> Should we use a money changing desk instead?
>
> Barry
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--Boundary_(ID_uA2GN0u+5gKLeIcHWLOTnA)-- From yzhaous@huawei.com Wed Sep 15 23:46:21 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 519EE3A68CB for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 23:46:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qT0YKFTJ50ak for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 23:46:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usaga03-in.huawei.com (usaga03-in.huawei.com [206.16.17.220]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C4003A677E for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 23:46:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (usaga03-in [172.18.4.17]) by usaga03-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0L8T00EK8UTPYA@usaga03-in.huawei.com> for 79attendees@ietf.org; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 01:46:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from Z73500b (c-76-102-52-56.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [76.102.52.56]) by usaga03-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0L8T001WWUTJBJ@usaga03-in.huawei.com> for 79attendees@ietf.org; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 01:46:37 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 01:46:21 -0500 From: Yi Zhao In-reply-to: <9F6983FDF628744193C9268DB08B97B7017D3835@xmb-sjc-237.amer.cisco.com> To: "'Dennis Cai (dcai)'" , barryleiba@computer.org, 79attendees@ietf.org Message-id: <00a601cb556a$e31db3a0$a9591ae0$@com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en-us Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Thread-index: ActVZZOiZCtZ0QF3RU+DlLnUV9EiOQAAVOuQAADvQ6A= References: <9F6983FDF628744193C9268DB08B97B7017D3835@xmb-sjc-237.amer.cisco.com> Subject: Re: [79attendees] Getting RMB at the airport X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 06:46:21 -0000 Most local Chinese banks in big cities as Beijing, Shanghai, etc., take US ATM cards. Yi -----Original Message----- From: 79attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:79attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Cai (dcai) Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 1:21 AM To: barryleiba@computer.org; 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [79attendees] Getting RMB at the airport There is Citibank ATM in the airport, so you can get RMB. -----Original Message----- From: 79attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:79attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Barry Leiba Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:08 PM To: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: [79attendees] Getting RMB at the airport What is the best way for us to get RMB at the airport? Are there ATMs that will take foreign (US) ATM cards? Should we use a money changing desk instead? Barry _______________________________________________ 79attendees mailing list 79attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees _______________________________________________ 79attendees mailing list 79attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees From miaofy@huawei.com Wed Sep 15 23:47:39 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C2B83A68A2 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 23:47:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.263 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.263 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.232, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qIerI3gCL2Qe for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 23:47:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from szxga05-in.huawei.com (unknown [119.145.14.67]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FDB53A6868 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 23:47:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (szxga05-in [172.24.2.49]) by szxga05-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0L8T008MOUUSNN@szxga05-in.huawei.com> for 79attendees@ietf.org; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:47:16 +0800 (CST) Received: from huawei.com ([172.24.2.119]) by szxga05-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0L8T00HHXUURKK@szxga05-in.huawei.com> for 79attendees@ietf.org; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:47:16 +0800 (CST) Received: from m00129482d ([10.110.98.68]) by szxml06-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0L8T00HTQUURI1@szxml06-in.huawei.com> for 79attendees@ietf.org; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:47:15 +0800 (CST) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:47:15 +0800 From: Miao Fuyou In-reply-to: <9F6983FDF628744193C9268DB08B97B7017D3835@xmb-sjc-237.amer.cisco.com> To: "'Dennis Cai (dcai)'" , barryleiba@computer.org, 79attendees@ietf.org Message-id: <00e301cb556a$ffc38890$44626e0a@china.huawei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Thread-index: ActVZZOiZCtZ0QF3RU+DlLnUV9EiOQAAVOuQAACzyfA= Subject: Re: [79attendees] Getting RMB at the airport X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 06:47:40 -0000 There is money exchange office at airport. It's very easy to find it. Another way is to go to a bank close to you to change your dollar/euro/yen into RMB when you are in Beijing. Basically there is very few (or no?) money exchange office beyond airport, however, banks are everywhere, so don't worry! It's recommended to get RMB before leaving airport because usually the taxi driver doesn't accept credit card. - Miao -----Original Message----- From: 79attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:79attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Cai (dcai) Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:21 PM To: barryleiba@computer.org; 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [79attendees] Getting RMB at the airport There is Citibank ATM in the airport, so you can get RMB. -----Original Message----- From: 79attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:79attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Barry Leiba Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:08 PM To: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: [79attendees] Getting RMB at the airport What is the best way for us to get RMB at the airport? Are there ATMs that will take foreign (US) ATM cards? Should we use a money changing desk instead? Barry _______________________________________________ 79attendees mailing list 79attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees _______________________________________________ 79attendees mailing list 79attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees From klaas@cisco.com Thu Sep 16 01:30:24 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8069E3A688A for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 01:30:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Z8M6gn5RDVma for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 01:30:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from teletubbie.het.net.je (teletubbie.het.net.je [IPv6:2001:610:508:110:192:87:110:29]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A503A68F5 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 01:30:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [109.32.0.37] by teletubbie.het.net.je with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.72 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Ow9qf-000FgW-Ir; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:29:41 +0200 References: Message-Id: From: Klaas Wierenga To: "barryleiba@computer.org" In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: iPad Mail (7B405) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPad Mail 7B405) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:30:38 +0200 X-Antivirus: no malware found Cc: "79attendees@ietf.org" <79attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [79attendees] Getting RMB at the airport X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:30:24 -0000 Earlier this year I had no trouble using my (Dutch) ATM card at Bejing = airport. Klaas On Sep 16, 2010, at 8:08 AM, "Barry Leiba" = wrote: > What is the best way for us to get RMB at the airport? > Are there ATMs that will take foreign (US) ATM cards? > Should we use a money changing desk instead? >=20 > Barry > _______________________________________________ > 79attendees mailing list > 79attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees From scott.brim@gmail.com Thu Sep 16 04:06:23 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C12B83A684D for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 04:06:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.576 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.576 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.023, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yMuLDNeMWUXU for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 04:06:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qy0-f179.google.com (mail-qy0-f179.google.com [209.85.216.179]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F4813A6822 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 04:06:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qyk9 with SMTP id 9so1122149qyk.10 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 04:06:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=YgfsHWCOzFx3rTeTvwbu1+Ypitz5lu+qB/b8QlYo2Zs=; b=hT/AAn1T2hFfoGX6gYK2TargLhlN0dJ6hlD0UlYJByFHS8hYd68tvgw9Hi1jyPZ/tR kNrPTn+FG8NcKFRDhGmssBw3OBmUMHvO9ZMbQqtdHGh8pxxWGWKhvs1SC4bg2RoaTCyk MSbKnrIciuBoXOeo4VaiHPO2bGa7hK1ZYugpc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=MAriY1KGq9SDSIp3fyfYcGjC3+13FcMNT3IyMFxB669Pwczp0ALHq6G7GWC4CuAOB1 31HT24D8m6RxQ/kKD0fmwK2tvLx6AoS2eRhenxTtX6xEev5VbshQPFVHB9td4J4/WkJl J9HQy/t+WSanTJNTIjXOpqur4af1eLJYebnDk= Received: by 10.229.2.3 with SMTP id 3mr1815025qch.266.1284635207178; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 04:06:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sbrim-mbp.local (198-135-0-233.cisco.com [198.135.0.233]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f15sm2639535qcr.13.2010.09.16.04.06.45 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 16 Sep 2010 04:06:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C91FA44.5060206@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 07:06:44 -0400 From: Scott Brim User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100825 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Hui Deng References: <4C9145DE.2070605@chello.nl> <016D6D95AF0949478938DD97B5218DE6021802E51A8F@EXCH-CLUSTER-09.force10networks.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "79attendees@ietf.org" <79attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [79attendees] taxi in Beijing X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:06:23 -0000 On 09/15/2010 21:33 EDT, Hui Deng wrote: > 3) show to taxi driver in airport ( you need wait in queue for sometime) > 4) In case he doesn't know , ask driver to call the hotel by using your > paper, Or use your own phone to call the hotel, explain that the taxi driver needs directions, and hand the phone to the driver. I've done this several times. From simon.perreault@viagenie.ca Thu Sep 16 05:19:25 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB0F43A6B46 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 05:19:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.578 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.578 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.022, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id boRiGuWSoVif for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 05:19:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jazz.viagenie.ca (jazz.viagenie.ca [IPv6:2620:0:230:8000::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27C5B3A6B45 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 05:19:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ringo.viagenie.ca (unknown [IPv6:2620:0:230:c000:598b:eed4:11f0:f98]) by jazz.viagenie.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C25A821BBB for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:19:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4C920B64.2040903@viagenie.ca> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:19:48 -0400 From: Simon Perreault User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100621 Fedora/3.0.5-1.fc13 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 79attendees@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [79attendees] Getting RMB at the airport X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:19:26 -0000 On 2010-09-16 02:08, Barry Leiba wrote: > What is the best way for us to get RMB at the airport? > Are there ATMs that will take foreign (US) ATM cards? Data point: About a year ago I used my Canadian ATM card at an ATM in the airport in Shanghai and it worked perfectly. Simon -- NAT64/DNS64 open-source --> http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca STUN/TURN server --> http://numb.viagenie.ca vCard 4.0 --> http://www.vcarddav.org From Colman.Ho@ic.gc.ca Thu Sep 16 07:35:50 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37D463A6B5B for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 07:35:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZtB-6998C72a for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 07:35:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scmze001.ssan.egs-seg.gc.ca (scmze001.ssan.egs-seg.gc.ca [205.194.19.85]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BE9C3A6B3F for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 07:35:40 -0700 (PDT) X-SBRS: 4.8 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsAALbHkUzAxbIBlGdsb2JhbACiFBUBAQEBCQsICREFHcIbhUEEjTM Received: from bulwark1.ic.gc.ca ([192.197.178.1]) by scmze000.ssan.egs-seg.gc.ca with ESMTP; 16 Sep 2010 14:26:10 +0000 Received: from msg-gate2.ic.gc.ca by bulwark1.ic.gc.ca via smtpd (for scmze001.ssan.egs-seg.gc.ca [205.194.19.85]) with ESMTP; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:36:05 -0400 Received: from msg-con2.icent.ic.gc.ca (142.53.23.124) by msg-gate2.Gateway.ic.gc.ca (142.53.11.42) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.1.278.0; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:36:05 -0400 Received: from msg-con2.icent.ic.gc.ca by msg-con2.icent.ic.gc.ca via smtpd (for msg-gate2.ic.gc.ca [142.53.11.42]) with ESMTP; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:36:05 -0400 Received: from MSG-MB-03.icent.ic.gc.ca ([142.53.28.201]) by msg-con2.icent.ic.gc.ca with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:36:05 -0400 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:36:03 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [79attendees] Getting RMB at the airport Thread-Index: ActVZZOKSXs6oLe6TY+Nm59ZP7rA3gARpbuQ References: From: To: , <79attendees@ietf.org> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Sep 2010 14:36:05.0210 (UTC) FILETIME=[7E5003A0:01CB55AC] Subject: Re: [79attendees] Getting RMB at the airport X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:35:50 -0000 There are a number of ATM machines in the arrival hall. One of them also takes Amex Card. Colman -----Original Message----- From: 79attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:79attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Barry Leiba Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:08 AM To: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: [79attendees] Getting RMB at the airport What is the best way for us to get RMB at the airport? Are there ATMs that will take foreign (US) ATM cards? Should we use a money changing desk instead? Barry _______________________________________________ 79attendees mailing list 79attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees From bob.hinden@gmail.com Thu Sep 16 08:30:36 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1130D3A68F2 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:30:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.528 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.528 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.071, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qTrapw4z9C6K for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:30:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-px0-f172.google.com (mail-px0-f172.google.com [209.85.212.172]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E72BF3A6B82 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:30:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pxi6 with SMTP id 6so555876pxi.31 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:30:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:mime-version :content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=ZLVNzOySwAAtJmqzjGl/42W6E0kAqYyfB2MmU3MsauE=; b=XOPYUEhgkX0NmcLPUnR4eQa6JwrjjzKF0eEAXBAyplPAMwpSks5idUbJAPDEc5P05U ZK2eRrBJdDfwgywspck/I9Y0dyAzRbEcbV1rp9ui01qBRrGxL+EEllGSZaMBQFKM4Qv0 eeQAXaAb5gt6TCMUie5BUzJw9hzVKaXrFJntE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=b91HCpn6zIZDmeM5Y4tMJzrQRnWEdU9LgmFNFuluwD0BEkDfOiF/ScneJJZJGligyZ Pu4pf+OoPRVX87lw9XjkO5jvBkAGZJ/JPNi6OyQ4ZGnIL5BW4qnMT++RAUSooPFhAWNy 0Yq/LtqZE6oLRQNYkVa6vbTZey6GPXtUQRYlU= Received: by 10.142.110.18 with SMTP id i18mr2944643wfc.229.1284651046890; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:30:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.0.37] (c-67-188-5-28.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.188.5.28]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y36sm471179wfd.6.2010.09.16.08.30.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:30:46 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Bob Hinden In-Reply-To: <4C91FA44.5060206@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:30:42 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6C0A1720-FD23-4803-8AC3-B8EB33DF76B9@gmail.com> References: <4C9145DE.2070605@chello.nl> <016D6D95AF0949478938DD97B5218DE6021802E51A8F@EXCH-CLUSTER-09.force10networks.com> <4C91FA44.5060206@gmail.com> To: Scott Brim X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [79attendees] taxi in Beijing X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 15:30:37 -0000 On Sep 16, 2010, at 4:06 AM, Scott Brim wrote: > On 09/15/2010 21:33 EDT, Hui Deng wrote: >> 3) show to taxi driver in airport ( you need wait in queue for = sometime) >> 4) In case he doesn't know , ask driver to call the hotel by using = your >> paper, >=20 > Or use your own phone to call the hotel, explain that the taxi driver > needs directions, and hand the phone to the driver. I've done this > several times. That has happened to me a few times as well, usually after the taxi = driver can't find the destination :-) That said, it only happened two times over four trips to Beijing and = more taxi rides than I can remember. Bob From charliep@computer.org Thu Sep 16 10:11:35 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DA7A3A684F for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:11:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id In9+aQGQoPXG for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:11:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.61]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A98A3A6832 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:11:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [12.204.153.98] (helo=[10.166.130.36]) by elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1OwI05-0004uC-Uv for 79attendees@ietf.org; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 13:11:58 -0400 Message-ID: <4C924FDB.9080706@computer.org> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:11:55 -0700 From: "Charles E. Perkins" Organization: Wichorus Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100825 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 79attendees@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: 137d7d78656ed6919973fd6a8f21c4f2d780f4a490ca6956abb457f1b4332f5289ef9fd8f24db3d7c2759071191210f6350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 12.204.153.98 Subject: Re: [79attendees] Getting RMB at the airport X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: charliep@computer.org List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 17:11:35 -0000 Hello, Does anyone happen to know if the exchange rate is the same at the various banks and exchange centers? I remember when I last visited Beijing that they would not take back my RMB unless I had the receipt from the exchange office at the airport which showed how I got the RMB in the first place. This was reminiscent of similar treatment in a few other countries that did not make any pretense of being friendly to visitors. Does anyone happen to know whether we will still be required to keep track of our initial exchange voucher? Regards, Charlie P. On 9/16/2010 7:36 AM, Colman.Ho@ic.gc.ca wrote: > There are a number of ATM machines in the arrival hall. One of them > also takes Amex Card. > > Colman > > -----Original Message----- > From: 79attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:79attendees-bounces@ietf.org] > On Behalf Of Barry Leiba > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:08 AM > To: 79attendees@ietf.org > Subject: [79attendees] Getting RMB at the airport > > What is the best way for us to get RMB at the airport? > Are there ATMs that will take foreign (US) ATM cards? > Should we use a money changing desk instead? > > Barry > _______________________________________________ > 79attendees mailing list > 79attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees > _______________________________________________ > 79attendees mailing list > 79attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees > From agmalis@gmail.com Thu Sep 16 11:12:34 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F0703A6A28 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:12:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.989 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.989 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.610, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hwacCyKQL+jd for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:12:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gx0-f172.google.com (mail-gx0-f172.google.com [209.85.161.172]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2CFD3A69DD for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:12:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by gxk20 with SMTP id 20so688743gxk.31 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:12:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=akNJkfh88C4s73sLS8HovlEXwZEEUsSiOsCMgIfOWL0=; b=YcSrbuYTLSYfmk2E5DwxhGCvtDnlgJfL43qFB1ZE6goX1QMIXiIsqh1gfRSgHed0e3 Swq6bkLKkWFKlntApYcqwtoIboRXhZY7puybyOpJXw/7UaOa8pj9QJZKpfw/B+CdP6nV +dw192IIjvCTI99XGW/7qLrH8MhRW9FVZQJ8g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=YIY263StjOa+HSHGXM6Q14+n+wMTBU1Mf3ACxHDOJCIgOYuUfkG+Ex4IlpD2v9AyB9 o+DR9nLHiDP+SYmUKgQ09xYJ7u9hvcUQx8eUqoVm1gKNPZBN3GmoS5/NqCBFhpFvCW5u pRJqYJ5XAXPOo24Bx/TfTYyeVwe5N8/3haBVs= Received: by 10.150.196.5 with SMTP id t5mr4457480ybf.422.1284660775357; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:12:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.79.4 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:12:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4C9145DE.2070605@chello.nl> <016D6D95AF0949478938DD97B5218DE6021802E51A8F@EXCH-CLUSTER-09.force10networks.com> <7F2072F1E0DE894DA4B517B93C6A0585016CE5A6@ESESSCMS0356.eemea.ericsson.se> From: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:12:34 -0400 Message-ID: To: Ole Jacobsen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "79attendees@ietf.org" <79attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [79attendees] taxi in Beijing X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:12:34 -0000 If you contract a driver from the hotel, ONLY look for a card with your name on it - NOT a card with just the hotel name (or if you see the hotel card, ask them to name you). In general (anywhere in the world), do not trust a driver who claims to be from the hotel if they don't know your name first. Cheers, Andy On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 1:47 AM, Ole Jacobsen wrote: > > Very true and certainly my preferred option. > > There is nothing quite as reassuring as seeing a driver with your name > on a card waiting in the arrivals hall after all that flying to a > foreign country. > > Ole > > Ole J. Jacobsen > Editor and Publisher, =A0The Internet Protocol Journal > Cisco Systems > Tel: +1 408-527-8972 =A0 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 > E-mail: ole@cisco.com =A0URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj > > > On Thu, 16 Sep 2010, Christer Holmberg wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Also note that the hotel (and other companies) can organize airport >> transport. It costs more than a taxi, bou know what the price is >> going to be (mostly it can be added to the hotel bill), and on >> arrival there will be a guy waiting for you at the airport. >> >> Regards, >> >> Christer >> > _______________________________________________ > 79attendees mailing list > 79attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees > From bob.hinden@gmail.com Thu Sep 16 11:31:11 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC8723A68F3 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:31:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.635 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.635 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.036, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PlXLUXAgkHJj for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pv0-f172.google.com (mail-pv0-f172.google.com [74.125.83.172]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 163493A68D8 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pvg7 with SMTP id 7so636210pvg.31 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:31:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:mime-version :content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=ZJTQXwZxYgqBJXtRQpH8AHdCUyJVn5FgNJk44fMfZ5c=; b=azldHC5YrO439oACBa+8IET/W/m6+wpcXyZSrI/ZCbHAFObFgaSQwHr5hFgncYEEZz DrhkaVg6N65ViHFr9KV496rAJqOxRkO7g/NcIFT4JiAwYvZUXZYEmWs0cyxZABpPl9E4 87/OkxNO5JeUgrCraPlJf4sTtVKf1btsy2MkA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=Li9Chi2TMqnGdLYO/CBoa2HkZr7zfS78zrlKdMZBxMjBnVTaipK2FaE47amfH1kGeM iAXJQHbIC4NH6Gg/LjmU+wtCK0pdnAGowDm4fNVO/WpgkHNyBLnmd5nkSSlCOtPm8Ol0 rt76Oc+vb9BfOOerXoeOffhAq7hswV2fn83I0= Received: by 10.142.211.7 with SMTP id j7mr3233659wfg.20.1284661895307; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:31:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.224.217] ([209.97.127.34]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e12sm2852982wfh.13.2010.09.16.11.31.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:31:34 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Bob Hinden In-Reply-To: <4C924FDB.9080706@computer.org> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:31:32 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4C924FDB.9080706@computer.org> To: charliep@computer.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [79attendees] Getting RMB at the airport X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:31:11 -0000 Charlie, > I remember when I last visited Beijing that they > would not take back my RMB unless I had the receipt > from the exchange office at the airport which > showed how I got the RMB in the first place. This > was reminiscent of similar treatment in a few other > countries that did not make any pretense of being > friendly to visitors. Does anyone happen to know > whether we will still be required to keep track of > our initial exchange voucher? I have never had that problem when leaving Beijing. Several times I = have exchanged my RMB's at the exchange counters near the gates (past = security and passport control). This was a few years ago in the old = terminal, but I suspect it would be the same in the new terminal. I changed planes in the new terminal last year and it is quite nice. Bob From agmalis@gmail.com Thu Sep 16 11:33:20 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A0173A6B32 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:33:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.091 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.091 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.508, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZqcgbxgGV--J for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:33:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gx0-f172.google.com (mail-gx0-f172.google.com [209.85.161.172]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CDAB3A6A33 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:33:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by gxk20 with SMTP id 20so697297gxk.31 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:33:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=zklILVKLZQVdcxA4RIBkFv6LXyk0dHs5KM6jlr3zSWQ=; b=uepGyvLIly5d3BUiKP2kbxC5cFrq5/y2/Iv2QnbuKZ9zXDMzmsA4YxfdyYzhsznNxO x15b0BR/xG+8qckwKaqKD3CiOHqKHJAJ817pQeCynJ0f/mjK0dcEVQv4rNjo2z20wTdd 0LG9HwiBS2OdQubwxy5pr8t9QNZmqxkzPPvOI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CVChgI6L3tGBVWBItPdlJyK7BORAibvrlTKA2NjhWDGVoVd8JhcVDWQhTxBNgEK64v vd1Rr4giRbe0iptoLONnd3Akyualho7ZGj/bm7G3RMFOKVFzP+2G6Y6JrYMKnXNLIWtK bGgZGTP1+WlwfB6WxKMAP1yFXA/kZDaBiF+ss= Received: by 10.151.133.15 with SMTP id k15mr4275838ybn.78.1284662017232; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:33:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.79.4 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:33:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:33:17 -0400 Message-ID: To: Colman.Ho@ic.gc.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: barryleiba@computer.org, 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [79attendees] Getting RMB at the airport X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:33:20 -0000 Note that if you are a Bank of America customer in the US, you can use your ATM card with no foreign ATM fees at China Construction Bank ATMs. However, I don't know if they have any ATMs at the airport - their ATM location page on the web is only in Chinese. Cheers, Andy On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 10:36 AM, wrote: > There are a number of ATM machines in the arrival hall. =A0One of them > also takes Amex Card. > > Colman > > -----Original Message----- > From: 79attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:79attendees-bounces@ietf.org] > On Behalf Of Barry Leiba > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:08 AM > To: 79attendees@ietf.org > Subject: [79attendees] Getting RMB at the airport > > What is the best way for us to get RMB at the airport? > Are there ATMs that will take foreign (US) ATM cards? > Should we use a money changing desk instead? > > Barry > _______________________________________________ > 79attendees mailing list > 79attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees > _______________________________________________ > 79attendees mailing list > 79attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees > From miaofy@huawei.com Thu Sep 16 18:22:18 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA3B23A6BC1 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:22:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.289 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.289 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.206, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id M9KJOuqwEGhn for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:22:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from szxga01-in.huawei.com (unknown [119.145.14.64]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E1F73A6AD5 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:22:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (szxga01-in [172.24.2.3]) by szxga01-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0L8V00KDHAHJ8A@szxga01-in.huawei.com> for 79attendees@ietf.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 09:22:32 +0800 (CST) Received: from huawei.com ([172.24.2.119]) by szxga01-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0L8V00APFAHJCO@szxga01-in.huawei.com> for 79attendees@ietf.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 09:22:31 +0800 (CST) Received: from m00129482d ([10.110.98.68]) by szxml04-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0L8V00ABYAHJB7@szxml04-in.huawei.com> for 79attendees@ietf.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 09:22:31 +0800 (CST) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 09:23:51 +0800 From: Miao Fuyou In-reply-to: <4C924FDB.9080706@computer.org> To: charliep@computer.org, 79attendees@ietf.org Message-id: <00b901cb5606$fc57b4f0$44626e0a@china.huawei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Thread-index: ActVwkpfpTfzaOQ5QfSltbuJg1lUlwARGp9A Subject: Re: [79attendees] Getting RMB at the airport X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 01:22:19 -0000 The rate is the same, no commission, however, when you buy and sell RMB, the rate is slightly different. As of Sept 17, it is 665.09 Yuan for 100 USD for sell, 673.15 for buy. - Miao -----Original Message----- From: 79attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:79attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Charles E. Perkins Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 1:12 AM To: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [79attendees] Getting RMB at the airport Hello, Does anyone happen to know if the exchange rate is the same at the various banks and exchange centers? I remember when I last visited Beijing that they would not take back my RMB unless I had the receipt from the exchange office at the airport which showed how I got the RMB in the first place. This was reminiscent of similar treatment in a few other countries that did not make any pretense of being friendly to visitors. Does anyone happen to know whether we will still be required to keep track of our initial exchange voucher? Regards, Charlie P. On 9/16/2010 7:36 AM, Colman.Ho@ic.gc.ca wrote: > There are a number of ATM machines in the arrival hall. One of them > also takes Amex Card. > > Colman > > -----Original Message----- > From: 79attendees-bounces@ietf.org > [mailto:79attendees-bounces@ietf.org] > On Behalf Of Barry Leiba > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:08 AM > To: 79attendees@ietf.org > Subject: [79attendees] Getting RMB at the airport > > What is the best way for us to get RMB at the airport? > Are there ATMs that will take foreign (US) ATM cards? > Should we use a money changing desk instead? > > Barry > _______________________________________________ > 79attendees mailing list > 79attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees > _______________________________________________ > 79attendees mailing list > 79attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees > _______________________________________________ 79attendees mailing list 79attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees From randy@psg.com Fri Sep 17 10:16:53 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F31B3A68EC for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; 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charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [79attendees] taxi in Beijing X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 17:16:53 -0000 hint: there is a train From ole@cisco.com Fri Sep 17 10:21:02 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA5DC3A6889 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:21:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -110.541 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-110.541 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.058, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AdlrhD9xxUvC for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; 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charset=US-ASCII Cc: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [79attendees] taxi in Beijing X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 17:21:02 -0000 Oh that dreaded word.... Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj On Fri, 17 Sep 2010, Randy Bush wrote: > hint: there is a train > _______________________________________________ > 79attendees mailing list > 79attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees > From randy@psg.com Fri Sep 17 10:24:58 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B62193A6845 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:24:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id z582QOAxS0N6 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:24:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFA8A3A6821 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:24:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=rmac.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Owegc-000Kja-2k; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 17:25:22 +0000 Message-ID: <4C93A480.9080606@psg.com> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 13:25:20 -0400 From: Randy Bush User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100825 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ole Jacobsen References: <4C9145DE.2070605@chello.nl> <016D6D95AF0949478938DD97B5218DE6021802E51A8F@EXCH-CLUSTER-09.force10networks.com> <4C91FA44.5060206@gmail.com> <6C0A1720-FD23-4803-8AC3-B8EB33DF76B9@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [79attendees] taxi in Beijing X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 17:24:58 -0000 > Oh that dreaded word.... >> hint: there is a train and it takes less time and less expensive From scott.brim@gmail.com Fri Sep 17 11:03:36 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF6193A6821 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; 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U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Randy Bush References: <4C9145DE.2070605@chello.nl> <016D6D95AF0949478938DD97B5218DE6021802E51A8F@EXCH-CLUSTER-09.force10networks.com> <4C91FA44.5060206@gmail.com> <6C0A1720-FD23-4803-8AC3-B8EB33DF76B9@gmail.com> <4C93A480.9080606@psg.com> In-Reply-To: <4C93A480.9080606@psg.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [79attendees] taxi in Beijing X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:03:36 -0000 On 09/17/2010 13:25 EDT, Randy Bush wrote: >> Oh that dreaded word.... >>> hint: there is a train > > and it takes less time and less expensive Very interesting idea. So if I have it right: Airport line to Dongzhimen (东直门) Ring line (#2) to Xizhimen (西直门) Two stops on line #4 to the national library (国家图书馆) ?? From ben@nostrum.com Fri Sep 17 12:24:41 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 279743A6904 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:24:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KYeDrNQdvw4U for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:24:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:267::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A8FB3A68FE for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:24:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dn3-174.estacado.net (vicuna-alt.estacado.net [75.53.54.121]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o8HJOxHT071585 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 14:24:59 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ben@nostrum.com) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) From: Ben Campbell In-Reply-To: <4C93AD8C.7030402@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 14:24:59 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4C9145DE.2070605@chello.nl> <016D6D95AF0949478938DD97B5218DE6021802E51A8F@EXCH-CLUSTER-09.force10networks.com> <4C91FA44.5060206@gmail.com> <6C0A1720-FD23-4803-8AC3-B8EB33DF76B9@gmail.com> <4C93A480.9080606@psg.com> <4C93AD8C.7030402@gmail.com> To: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Received-SPF: pass (nostrum.com: 75.53.54.121 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) Subject: Re: [79attendees] taxi in Beijing X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 19:24:41 -0000 On Sep 17, 2010, at 1:03 PM, Scott Brim wrote: > On 09/17/2010 13:25 EDT, Randy Bush wrote: >>> Oh that dreaded word.... >>>> hint: there is a train >>=20 >> and it takes less time and less expensive >=20 > Very interesting idea. So if I have it right: >=20 > Airport line to Dongzhimen (=E4=B8=9C=E7=9B=B4=E9=97=A8) > Ring line (#2) to Xizhimen (=E8=A5=BF=E7=9B=B4=E9=97=A8) > Two stops on line #4 to the national library (=E5=9B=BD=E5=AE=B6=E5=9B=BE= =E4=B9=A6=E9=A6=86) >=20 > ?? >=20 Anyone have a pointer to detailed train info? In particular, weekend and = late night/early morning schedules?=20 > _______________________________________________ > 79attendees mailing list > 79attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees From edward.jankiewicz@sri.com Fri Sep 17 14:03:40 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5272C3A6940 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 14:03:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.284 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.284 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.762, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DbYVTC2nNfMR for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 14:03:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.sri.com (srimail.SRI.COM [128.18.30.17]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20C153A691A for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 14:03:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Received: from [192.168.1.144] ([unknown] [68.81.23.3]) by mail.sri.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0L8W00CB4T6NKPA1@mail.sri.com> for 79attendees@ietf.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 14:03:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <4C93D7C2.7070404@sri.com> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 17:04:02 -0400 From: Ed Jankiewicz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 To: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: [79attendees] habemus wikim X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 21:03:40 -0000 there is a new wiki for meeting related information, including these transportation and money-changing tips. as the ideas gel, hope people will post them there. https://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/ietf79 -- Ed Jankiewicz - SRI International Fort Monmouth Branch Office - IPv6 Research Supporting DISA Standards Engineering Branch 732-389-1003 or ed.jankiewicz@sri.com From edward.jankiewicz@sri.com Fri Sep 17 15:05:43 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 540803A694C for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:05:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.379 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.379 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.667, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0IwGq26nBqv2 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:05:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.sri.com (mail1.SRI.COM [128.18.30.17]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37DA13A6922 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:05:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Received: from [192.168.1.144] ([unknown] [68.81.23.3]) by mail.sri.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0L8W00CGVW23G9F1@mail.sri.com> for 79attendees@ietf.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:06:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <4C93E64F.6020104@sri.com> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:06:07 -0400 From: Ed Jankiewicz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 To: Tony Li References: <4C93D7C2.7070404@sri.com> In-reply-to: Cc: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [79attendees] habemus wikim X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 22:05:43 -0000 I had not. there is a little detour to find out how... click on "return to welcome page" where there is the hint for login. It's the email you registered with and your 10-digit confirmation number for initial password. On 9/17/2010 5:06 PM, Tony Li wrote: > Yes, but have you been able to log in? > > Tony > > On Sep 17, 2010, at 2:04 PM, Ed Jankiewicz wrote: > >> there is a new wiki for meeting related information, including these transportation and money-changing tips. >> >> as the ideas gel, hope people will post them there. >> >> https://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/ietf79 >> >> -- >> Ed Jankiewicz - SRI International >> Fort Monmouth Branch Office - IPv6 Research >> Supporting DISA Standards Engineering Branch >> 732-389-1003 or ed.jankiewicz@sri.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 79attendees mailing list >> 79attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees -- Ed Jankiewicz - SRI International Fort Monmouth Branch Office - IPv6 Research Supporting DISA Standards Engineering Branch 732-389-1003 or ed.jankiewicz@sri.com From christer.holmberg@ericsson.com Fri Sep 17 15:06:56 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB5AE3A6922 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; 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c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=kzFLvPHkDuqZ3IZgNZ0NPcaoDswm9IbYY6gU66hAmsuc+ltFfhPh1k3vqhXyake99d XUc1wdrsHhohYMTXoR5es/g8hELlZf+pVtPSs3qOdlbsQ3vQCZjG1QiPayY33vuZq/jf GCaW60ULadtAZkaImg26LJnnqQbpKa8oxD35M= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.8.66 with SMTP id h2mr1851924ich.40.1284810883147; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 04:54:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.8.198 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 04:54:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 17:24:43 +0530 Message-ID: From: Abhishek Verma To: 79attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [79attendees] Great Wall X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 11:54:43 -0000 Hi, I am interested in visiting the Great Wall of China. Is it, or a part of it, accessible nearby from the IETF venue? Abhishek From jav@sics.se Sat Sep 18 05:09:08 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF2CC3A6A3B for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 05:09:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.095 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.095 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.154, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h4OBIsnSuCM3 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 05:09:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from letter.sics.se (letter.sics.se [193.10.64.6]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF9C3A6A03 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 05:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.10.150] (h206n3-haes-a12.ias.bredband.telia.com [78.72.156.206]) (Authenticated sender: jav@sics.se) by letter.sics.se (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A6DCB400CE; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 14:09:31 +0200 (CEST) From: Javier Ubillos To: Abhishek Verma In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-u9Y7HD5BIyBvzB4GEvBU" Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 14:09:31 +0200 Message-ID: <1284811771.2045.88.camel@bit> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.3 Cc: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [79attendees] Great Wall X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 12:09:08 -0000 --=-u9Y7HD5BIyBvzB4GEvBU Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Definitely not "Near by". Expect a whole day excursion. There are agencies who collect a set of tourists by bus and drive out. Your hotel will most likely be able to help you. There are several different sections of it to visit, again, your hotel will probably be able to help you. I can strongly recommend it, and remember to bring comfortable shoes, there will be a lot of walking. // Javier On Sat, 2010-09-18 at 17:24 +0530, Abhishek Verma wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I am interested in visiting the Great Wall of China. >=20 > Is it, or a part of it, accessible nearby from the IETF venue? >=20 > Abhishek > _______________________________________________ > 79attendees mailing list > 79attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees --=-u9Y7HD5BIyBvzB4GEvBU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkyUq/AACgkQGBo5FLRz4gofTACgmI8wNwbGpCqG2bGxB3dM3bG1 EVEAnjmfvmRAMOgsflhZSRGXu+zpHPoI =51oS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-u9Y7HD5BIyBvzB4GEvBU-- From scott.brim@gmail.com Sat Sep 18 05:43:07 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ACD03A6A15 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 05:43:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.569 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.569 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.030, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NOt-ok-nzZb8 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 05:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qy0-f172.google.com (mail-qy0-f172.google.com [209.85.216.172]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3960E3A69DD for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 05:43:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qyk1 with SMTP id 1so1619945qyk.10 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 05:43:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5q0rav8lgO4s0qmXUvxNcMfLze+GOkr6H3vOrLBGTvw=; b=WNAugs8lbRAwOu1QtJXX76E9Qsp+B3HOEtXwIwlWeebtlJBcnmj9Ql9VIJoFTrwnRm 4sURvQ/hnl4XyCWC87FgJT9S5yugunt8c40zq+UAMmJlHFkN6W/sdqMPMj3FkVIjmC8j mki1rb5s1igJUvtfoYP6Ko8Te+zF9wdHX25EI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fe0vQj03G6oVaAL9sYATBygKYojVhj+XBKu0kJzGPPIqdgf8YA0S2i5I8YTG9xIjv7 um9qMAFpR3HuxW3B0Drwu9BVd+rdBK2X8kN3jybJJbG7YmyTlbPDSDi0LViVW9GKRTa8 gAYKVKIhKX+G+Onld8XbVTdg2mc3zeilTy0U4= Received: by 10.224.65.234 with SMTP id k42mr4250858qai.127.1284813810149; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 05:43:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sbrim-mbp.local (198-135-0-233.cisco.com [198.135.0.233]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e6sm5322373qcr.17.2010.09.18.05.43.28 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 18 Sep 2010 05:43:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C94B3EF.9000405@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 08:43:27 -0400 From: Scott Brim User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Abhishek Verma References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [79attendees] Great Wall X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 12:43:07 -0000 On 09/18/2010 07:54 EDT, Abhishek Verma wrote: > Hi, > > I am interested in visiting the Great Wall of China. > > Is it, or a part of it, accessible nearby from the IETF venue? Ask the hotel. The Badaling section is probably where they will send you. If you get your photo taken with Chairman Mao's calligraphy, you should dicker on the price. From denghui02@gmail.com Sat Sep 18 06:27:03 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE3263A68A3 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 06:27:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.069 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.069 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.921, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 633SFNOOqdwY for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 06:27:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f172.google.com (mail-iw0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0E823A68CE for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 06:27:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by iwn3 with SMTP id 3so3287835iwn.31 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 06:27:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=sIzRQyXJ9iZnLbJkQEAsT36+L0/e6PD0AJUTA55+RyU=; b=SNK3Qk2XEhukqVnJEU9cSiF2JHAJ1IO0NuZFuf9qXHKlpb0Xjvh8ejNJHasYqzQ+Xz Bq/B+wiIoEKMaw4Mqh137UjVfyn9VF83APCGN54slvfIAjyCU51rJN3fa3OU9v7wvxil 7AHvNqRmQxerzNwgbKfCi6WyY2uuq96fRUwVw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=ne/Tsb+IuwF7shv3ceib9hBTL0apvm/tXd5fMupGA8cy8X2YYooATO+1dRGTxs5pUT P9vF4Ho7lE00KLBNUEzdBrh9tApJ1UdTBGek13jLCCSc34OAd2RBCHWNRle73DMV5CDq ImVoSewNnAm4AvLNHPZFNGL5VP0mN0GcxxyNc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.170.79 with SMTP id c15mr6956887ibz.82.1284816446949; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 06:27:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.153.146 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 06:27:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C93AD8C.7030402@gmail.com> References: <4C9145DE.2070605@chello.nl> <016D6D95AF0949478938DD97B5218DE6021802E51A8F@EXCH-CLUSTER-09.force10networks.com> <4C91FA44.5060206@gmail.com> <6C0A1720-FD23-4803-8AC3-B8EB33DF76B9@gmail.com> <4C93A480.9080606@psg.com> <4C93AD8C.7030402@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 21:27:26 +0800 Message-ID: From: Hui Deng To: Scott Brim Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e68f9daeec0abc049088a329 Cc: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [79attendees] taxi in Beijing X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 13:27:03 -0000 --0016e68f9daeec0abc049088a329 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok, I will make clear step guide on our website in a month, please be patient. Here is simple way. I am not recommend to take this way, except that you would like to experience airport express( it will go stop by terminal 2 and Sanyuan bridge stop, don't get off there), our conference hotel is not near to any subway station, the most close way is 1.5km far. [national library (=B9=FA=BC=D2=CD=BC=CA= =E9=B9=DD)] if you really take this way, then Airport line to Dongzhimen (=B6=AB=D6=B1=C3=C5) (25 RMB) ( it will go stop= by terminal 2 and Sanyuan bridge stop, don't get off there), Ring line (#2) to Xizhimen (=CE=F7=D6=B1=C3=C5) (2 RMB including both line = #2 and #4) Two stops on line #4 to the national library (=B9=FA=BC=D2=CD=BC=CA=E9=B9= =DD) (2 RMB including both line #2 and #4) 1) walk to hotel (1.5km) (0 RMB) (Not that easy, cause you need cross a not small ringroad bridge) 2) take taxi to hotel (2km) (10-11 RMB) 3) or take bus 689 (southward, 1 stop) walk back to the hotel <500meter. (0.4RMB) Around 6.7 RMB =3D 1 US Dollar. -Hui 2010/9/18 Scott Brim > On 09/17/2010 13:25 EDT, Randy Bush wrote: > >> Oh that dreaded word.... > >>> hint: there is a train > > > > and it takes less time and less expensive > > Very interesting idea. So if I have it right: > > Airport line to Dongzhimen (=B6=AB=D6=B1=C3=C5) > Ring line (#2) to Xizhimen (=CE=F7=D6=B1=C3=C5) > Two stops on line #4 to the national library (=B9=FA=BC=D2=CD=BC=CA=E9=B9= =DD) > > ?? > > _______________________________________________ > 79attendees mailing list > 79attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees > --0016e68f9daeec0abc049088a329 Content-Type: text/html; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ok, I will make clear step guide on our website in a month,
please be patient. Here is simple way.
 
I am not recommend to take this way, except that you would like to exp= erience
airport express( it will go stop by terminal 2 and Sanyuan bridge= stop, don't get off there),
our conference hotel is not near to any subway station,
the most close way is 1.5km far. [national library (=B9=FA=BC=D2=CD=BC= =CA=E9=B9=DD)]
 
if you really take this way, then
Airport line to Dongzhimen (=B6= =AB=D6=B1=C3=C5) (25 RMB)  ( it will go stop by terminal 2 and Sa= nyuan bridge stop, don't get off there),
Ring line (#2) to Xizhimen = (=CE=F7=D6=B1=C3=C5) (2 RMB including both line #2 and #4)
Two stops on line #4 to the national library (=B9=FA=BC=D2=CD=BC=CA=E9=B9= =DD) (2 RMB including both line #2 and #4)
1) walk to hotel (1.5km) (0 R= MB) (Not that easy, cause you need cross a not small ringroad bridge)<= /div>
2) take taxi to hotel (2km) (10-11 RMB)
3) or take bus 689 (southward, 1 stop)  walk back to the hot= el <500meter. (0.4RMB)
 
Around 6.7 RMB =3D 1 US Dollar.
-Hui
 
2010/9/18 Scott Brim <scott.brim@gmail.com>
On 09/17/2010 13:25 EDT, Randy Bush wrote:
>> Oh= that dreaded word....
>>> hint:  there is a train
>=
> and it takes less time and less expensive

Very intere= sting idea.  So if I have it right:

Airport line to Dongzhimen (=B6=AB=D6=B1=C3=C5)
Ring line (#2) to Xi= zhimen (=CE=F7=D6=B1=C3=C5)
Two stops on line #4 to the national library= (=B9=FA=BC=D2=CD=BC=CA=E9=B9=DD)

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--0016e68f9daeec0abc049088a329-- From denghui02@gmail.com Sat Sep 18 06:29:26 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52A7B3A68A3 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 06:29:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.041 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.041 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.893, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gPaAOsSDgsqR for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 06:29:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f172.google.com (mail-iw0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 513B03A6898 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 06:29:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by iwn3 with SMTP id 3so3289466iwn.31 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 06:29:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=7lpFZ4Fzt2YNhfa8HpSN9xFWHY3q/vWmsseiWdcNjII=; b=l+6S373JAqVQdFXszW83SwauJjjQBH+r284x/qeoqaHNGFc6cKmg2TTpNKF8m9Ygqa WyHJRhozmGLS+ExY5GNMfjnk7J8dcBLwRaKTFYhw7quSsQ3fuMDpP3D7zcNf9YQUTwWG +mcq9EeEHOrU3H4DFVH8aBxSHOfJ3VZu4aBT4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Y0d79XmSAWxZjpHZttIz9HwoblBJXxpPNUN51zfQpnm4VuqoXv9VsqWuSuVGL4UYcY HegewJMQSz9fG0+/yora7bUOydjZ8jGeRQMLTO0/dfuwcqMfDRWx9UgDtY7FkZl+E3jh 2nG2WKSRUhJyTL+22WXmMH1rpwF+DVfSKkhwc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.169.10 with SMTP id w10mr7063905iby.106.1284816589549; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 06:29:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.153.146 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 06:29:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4C9145DE.2070605@chello.nl> <016D6D95AF0949478938DD97B5218DE6021802E51A8F@EXCH-CLUSTER-09.force10networks.com> <4C91FA44.5060206@gmail.com> <6C0A1720-FD23-4803-8AC3-B8EB33DF76B9@gmail.com> <4C93A480.9080606@psg.com> <4C93AD8C.7030402@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 21:29:49 +0800 Message-ID: From: Hui Deng To: Ben Campbell Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d26cc86bf194049088ace9 Cc: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [79attendees] taxi in Beijing X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 13:29:26 -0000 --0016e6d26cc86bf194049088ace9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am going to check it up when I take a flight next time, I will take a train to airport. to change subway line, luggage is not that convenient, not all of them has lift there, you may have to walk not short distance. It will post in a month, -Hui 2010/9/18 Ben Campbell > On Sep 17, 2010, at 1:03 PM, Scott Brim wrote: > > > On 09/17/2010 13:25 EDT, Randy Bush wrote: > >>> Oh that dreaded word.... > >>>> hint: there is a train > >> > >> and it takes less time and less expensive > > > > Very interesting idea. So if I have it right: > > > > Airport line to Dongzhimen (=B6=AB=D6=B1=C3=C5) > > Ring line (#2) to Xizhimen (=CE=F7=D6=B1=C3=C5) > > Two stops on line #4 to the national library (=B9=FA=BC=D2=CD=BC=CA=E9= =B9=DD) > > > > ?? > > > > Anyone have a pointer to detailed train info? In particular, weekend and > late night/early morning schedules? > > > _______________________________________________ > > 79attendees mailing list > > 79attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees > > _______________________________________________ > 79attendees mailing list > 79attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees > --0016e6d26cc86bf194049088ace9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am going to check it up when I take a flight next time,
I will take  a train to airport.
 
to change subway line, luggage is not that convenient,
not all of them has lift there, you may have to walk not short distanc= e.
 
It will post in a month,
 
-Hui

2010/9/18 Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com>
On Sep 17, 2010, at 1:03 PM, Scott Brim wrote:

>= ; On 09/17/2010 13:25 EDT, Randy Bush wrote:
>>> Oh that dreade= d word....
>>>> hint:  there is a train
>>
= >> and it takes less time and less expensive
>
> Very interesting idea.  So if I have it right:
>> Airport line to Dongzhimen (=B6=AB=D6=B1=C3=C5)
> Ring line (#2= ) to Xizhimen (=CE=F7=D6=B1=C3=C5)
> Two stops on line #4 to the nati= onal library (=B9=FA=BC=D2=CD=BC=CA=E9=B9=DD)
>
> ??
>

Anyone have a pointer to detailed train info? = In particular, weekend and late night/early morning schedules?

> _______________________________________________<= br>> 79attendees mailing list
> 79attendees@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/li= stinfo/79attendees

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--0016e6d26cc86bf194049088ace9-- From klaas@cisco.com Sat Sep 18 07:22:28 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA633A68E1 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 07:22:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SnCKEm5Qhdta for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 07:22:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from teletubbie.het.net.je (teletubbie.het.net.je [IPv6:2001:610:508:110:192:87:110:29]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3DC13A680B for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 07:22:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 198-133.surfsnel.dsl.internl.net ([145.99.133.198]) by teletubbie.het.net.je with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.72 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1OwyIT-0009UA-51; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 16:21:45 +0200 References: <4C94B3EF.9000405@gmail.com> Message-Id: <9BB5B511-2F84-476E-B78B-48A6BA9BFCDE@cisco.com> From: Klaas Wierenga To: Scott Brim In-Reply-To: <4C94B3EF.9000405@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPad Mail (7B405) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPad Mail 7B405) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 16:22:58 +0200 X-Antivirus: no malware found Cc: "79attendees@ietf.org" <79attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [79attendees] Great Wall X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 14:22:28 -0000 Alternatively you can take a minivan at tienamin square Sent from my iPad On Sep 18, 2010, at 2:43 PM, "Scott Brim" wrote: > On 09/18/2010 07:54 EDT, Abhishek Verma wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I am interested in visiting the Great Wall of China. >> >> Is it, or a part of it, accessible nearby from the IETF venue? > > Ask the hotel. The Badaling section is probably where they will send > you. If you get your photo taken with Chairman Mao's calligraphy, you > should dicker on the price. > _______________________________________________ > 79attendees mailing list > 79attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees From ole@cisco.com Sat Sep 18 08:40:47 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 455A83A6778 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 08:40:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -109.613 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-109.613 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.873, BAYES_20=-0.74, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2uhba4TZSEUe for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 08:40:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com (sj-iport-5.cisco.com [171.68.10.87]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA6E73A67B5 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 08:40:45 -0700 (PDT) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-5.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAOR6lEyrR7H+/2dsb2JhbACiN3GjcYIoDAGZaoMKgjcEhE6BJ4N8Rw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,386,1280707200"; d="scan'208";a="257252389" Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com ([171.71.177.254]) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 18 Sep 2010 15:40:57 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o8IFevqJ007812; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 15:40:57 GMT Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 08:40:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Ole Jacobsen To: Javier Ubillos In-Reply-To: <1284811771.2045.88.camel@bit> Message-ID: References: <1284811771.2045.88.camel@bit> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [79attendees] Great Wall X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 15:40:47 -0000 And warm clothing for this and the city itself. Last year the first snow fell in Beijing on November 1st. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj On Sat, 18 Sep 2010, Javier Ubillos wrote: > Definitely not "Near by". > Expect a whole day excursion. > There are agencies who collect a set of tourists by bus and drive out. > Your hotel will most likely be able to help you. > There are several different sections of it to visit, again, your hotel > will probably be able to help you. > I can strongly recommend it, and remember to bring comfortable shoes, > there will be a lot of walking. > > // Javier > From christer.holmberg@ericsson.com Sat Sep 18 10:57:12 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEE483A6847 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 10:57:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.735 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.735 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.864, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id njAwQRjmUwfG for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 10:57:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw10.se.ericsson.net (mailgw10.se.ericsson.net [193.180.251.61]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA6883A6822 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 10:57:11 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb3d-b7cbeae00000772f-8b-4c94fd8f6d5e Received: from esessmw0256.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.124]) by mailgw10.se.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 64.F7.30511.F8DF49C4; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 19:57:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ESESSCMS0356.eemea.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.78]) by esessmw0256.eemea.ericsson.se ([10.2.3.125]) with mapi; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 19:57:35 +0200 From: Christer Holmberg To: Abhishek Verma , "79attendees@ietf.org" <79attendees@ietf.org> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 19:55:29 +0200 Thread-Topic: [79attendees] Great Wall Thread-Index: ActXKFsVFILyk0LmSLmcJMNjD8qN5wAMlM2c Message-ID: <7F2072F1E0DE894DA4B517B93C6A0585015BCA93@ESESSCMS0356.eemea.ericsson.se> References: , In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: Re: [79attendees] Great Wall X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 17:57:13 -0000 Hi, If you're a small group of people, one option is to simply take a taxi for = the day.=20 If you're a bigger group, it should also be possible to rent a mini bus. Ask for help at the hotel, and remember to agree on the price before you go= . Regards, Christer ________________________________________ From: 79attendees-bounces@ietf.org [79attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf= Of Abhishek Verma [abhishekv.verma@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 2:54 PM To: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [79attendees] Great Wall Hi, I am interested in visiting the Great Wall of China. Is it, or a part of it, accessible nearby from the IETF venue? Abhishek _______________________________________________ 79attendees mailing list 79attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees= From abhishekv.verma@gmail.com Sat Sep 18 11:09:48 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D4E63A6839 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 11:09:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bnLPm3HgJwQn for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 11:09:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f172.google.com (mail-iw0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 346F33A682F for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 11:09:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by iwn3 with SMTP id 3so3483343iwn.31 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 11:10:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=WzaXxGiXzm/EuX5svZbKSxF8XfxVXwIEO/Mwe8WkEFA=; b=vgq5cPLcO3UyvFtf7vIQwHujwNDHj3EV72J4zA2S1QXQMRS8YrxX6Yr4YxYIiS29bW MrmRFL6DHSCAZXikBbF54FlSpQgn3o3FOiWjJv4dgqAUTkhlm1uWvqERMvSLGGm06eEw 2vAQm3GNT7xH2JtfWBkC+gGVaE4yapunFVZb0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VYNCR3QQV+dpgiTldEepB3f1d+HJmX71JpJ2qgZhLUb6P6vID8VLq2COxzBRfkntiT v6lHnFGTfiSkUrha1mNUmHW78K2wsaqLcMUR4COlq0LnP79yaX73JxJCenU4mXF3aZH4 gmwPKCmYew8lNgIqL8bBqjZmIaW7kZXsR2tBo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.5.140 with SMTP id 12mr1940167icw.28.1284833411518; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 11:10:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.8.198 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 11:10:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7F2072F1E0DE894DA4B517B93C6A0585015BCA93@ESESSCMS0356.eemea.ericsson.se> References: <7F2072F1E0DE894DA4B517B93C6A0585015BCA93@ESESSCMS0356.eemea.ericsson.se> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 23:40:11 +0530 Message-ID: From: Abhishek Verma To: Christer Holmberg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "79attendees@ietf.org" <79attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [79attendees] Great Wall X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 18:09:48 -0000 I am willing to sign up if there are others who would be interested. Abhishek On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Christer Holmberg wrote: > Hi, > > If you're a small group of people, one option is to simply take a taxi fo= r the day. > > If you're a bigger group, it should also be possible to rent a mini bus. > > Ask for help at the hotel, and remember to agree on the price before you = go. > > Regards, > > Christer > > ________________________________________ > From: 79attendees-bounces@ietf.org [79attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Beha= lf Of Abhishek Verma [abhishekv.verma@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 2:54 PM > To: 79attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [79attendees] Great Wall > > =A0Hi, > > =A0I am interested in visiting the Great Wall of China. > > =A0Is it, or a part of it, accessible nearby from the IETF venue? > > =A0Abhishek > _______________________________________________ > 79attendees mailing list > 79attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees From dongjie_dj@huawei.com Sat Sep 18 20:24:21 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 051043A693B for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 20:24:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.895 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.895 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.400, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AbWVNXiK4WNs for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 20:24:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from szxga02-in.huawei.com (unknown [119.145.14.65]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF86B3A68DA for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 20:24:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (szxga02-in [172.24.2.6]) by szxga02-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0L8Z002575GTM3@szxga02-in.huawei.com> for 79attendees@ietf.org; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 11:24:29 +0800 (CST) Received: from huawei.com ([172.24.2.119]) by szxga02-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0L8Z004ZT5GTKA@szxga02-in.huawei.com> for 79attendees@ietf.org; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 11:24:29 +0800 (CST) Received: from d65110 ([10.110.98.35]) by szxml04-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0L8Z00BA25GSQI@szxml04-in.huawei.com> for 79attendees@ietf.org; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 11:24:28 +0800 (CST) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 11:24:29 +0800 From: Jie Dong In-reply-to: <9BB5B511-2F84-476E-B78B-48A6BA9BFCDE@cisco.com> To: 'Klaas Wierenga' , 'Scott Brim' Message-id: <00c901cb57aa$2bf78650$83e692f0$@com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: zh-cn Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Thread-index: ActXPP3snao7AAGiTf2pNCp6zVeFoQAaoVNg References: <4C94B3EF.9000405@gmail.com> <9BB5B511-2F84-476E-B78B-48A6BA9BFCDE@cisco.com> Cc: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [79attendees] Great Wall X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 03:24:21 -0000 Another way to Badaling is taking the direct bus 919 at Deshengmen square. The price is 12 Yuan, and if you have an IC bus card, it would cost only 4.8 Yuan. Be sure you take the bus at the Deshengmen square. This link can be helpful: http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/10fa74/fa3c0/7/ Best regards, Jie > -----Original Message----- > From: 79attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:79attendees-bounces@ietf.org] > On Behalf Of Klaas Wierenga > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 10:23 PM > To: Scott Brim > Cc: 79attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [79attendees] Great Wall > > Alternatively you can take a minivan at tienamin square > > Sent from my iPad > > On Sep 18, 2010, at 2:43 PM, "Scott Brim" wrote: > > > On 09/18/2010 07:54 EDT, Abhishek Verma wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I am interested in visiting the Great Wall of China. > >> > >> Is it, or a part of it, accessible nearby from the IETF venue? > > > > Ask the hotel. The Badaling section is probably where they will send > > you. If you get your photo taken with Chairman Mao's calligraphy, you > > should dicker on the price. > > _______________________________________________ > > 79attendees mailing list > > 79attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees > _______________________________________________ > 79attendees mailing list > 79attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees From joelja@gmail.com Sat Sep 18 21:18:25 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7763B3A697D for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 21:18:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dIUEVKIpRVG6 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 21:18:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pv0-f172.google.com (mail-pv0-f172.google.com [74.125.83.172]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 218AA3A697A for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 21:18:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pvg7 with SMTP id 7so1385075pvg.31 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 21:18:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=x0rFBU9Ab5GLnqmBjGa0EcoRWpM46JJ1XCtl7P2vOM0=; b=U9xC4UU2/9TOjxPldgAKOFRBW/yd9JGeifyIA0jRjOhohondTlfv+6dRUBXbw9n/Ua Sct9C+gbBy0NVZmJnju0I9cMSgHcjCPnnIL1ZqC0xfasSj1zE3pXRnMd+QxDn0mQUeJ1 DFe5LL2w/TgWlPAFRDSMWbN7EvhoccnpAnxkI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=G0cLCB45E+t2Fn72OdVTAwFtCE5BLV+IfeRF8UjdCi0y9XXpc7eis60/5xlJEhDaei KWT8MZ9Dqqk/R0bJPp2C/lBtzHPccToapYTZI6mGyF8r0Gt+gnWgfdZLw9TTPIEDKn4p 8HTYkDS//j81jc53MDVuMpABkcDz0S0evucVg= Received: by 10.114.173.5 with SMTP id v5mr7972063wae.79.1284869928391; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 21:18:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from joelja-mac.lan (c-98-234-104-156.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [98.234.104.156]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 33sm10295655wad.6.2010.09.18.21.18.43 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 18 Sep 2010 21:18:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C958F22.6090501@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 21:18:42 -0700 From: Joel Jaeggli User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Brim References: <4C94B3EF.9000405@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4C94B3EF.9000405@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [79attendees] Great Wall X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 04:18:25 -0000 On 9/18/10 5:43 AM, Scott Brim wrote: > On 09/18/2010 07:54 EDT, Abhishek Verma wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I am interested in visiting the Great Wall of China. >> >> Is it, or a part of it, accessible nearby from the IETF venue? > > Ask the hotel. The Badaling section is probably where they will send > you. If you get your photo taken with Chairman Mao's calligraphy, you > should dicker on the price. I'm guessing you're pretty much on your own for the other 8800km of the wall. _______________________________________________ > 79attendees mailing list > 79attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees From christer.holmberg@ericsson.com Sun Sep 19 01:21:27 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 616A73A6995 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 01:21:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.748 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.748 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.851, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QUcio4FOySSM for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 01:21:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw10.se.ericsson.net (mailgw10.se.ericsson.net [193.180.251.61]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E0B93A68BE for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 01:21:25 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb3d-b7cbeae00000772f-31-4c95c81bd52f Received: from esessmw0256.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.124]) by mailgw10.se.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 1B.CF.30511.B18C59C4; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:21:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from esessmw0191.eemea.ericsson.se (153.88.115.84) by esessmw0256.eemea.ericsson.se (153.88.115.96) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.2.234.1; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:21:47 +0200 Received: from ESESSCMS0356.eemea.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.78]) by esessmw0191.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.115.84]) with mapi; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:21:47 +0200 From: Christer Holmberg To: Joel Jaeggli , Scott Brim Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:17:45 +0200 Thread-Topic: [79attendees] Great Wall Thread-Index: ActXscVNpAowF4mzTT+1l3afqbGmpgAIV4eF Message-ID: <7F2072F1E0DE894DA4B517B93C6A0585015BCA96@ESESSCMS0356.eemea.ericsson.se> References: <4C94B3EF.9000405@gmail.com>,<4C958F22.6090501@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4C958F22.6090501@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: "79attendees@ietf.org" <79attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [79attendees] Great Wall X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 08:21:27 -0000 Hi, AFAIK, there are at least a couple of places relatively close to Beijing wh= ere you can visit the wall. Unfortunatly I don't remember the names, but from what I've heard the one c= losest to the city is often rather crowded by tourists. When I visited the wall a few years ago, it was a little further away from = the city (the same place where they visited the wall in one episode of the = Amazing Race TV series, btw :). We arrived rather early in the morning, and= we were more or less the only ones there. It was really nice. When we left= , a few additional buses had arrived, but it was still not crowded. Regards, Christer ________________________________________ From: 79attendees-bounces@ietf.org [79attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf= Of Joel Jaeggli [joelja@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 7:18 AM To: Scott Brim Cc: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [79attendees] Great Wall On 9/18/10 5:43 AM, Scott Brim wrote: > On 09/18/2010 07:54 EDT, Abhishek Verma wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I am interested in visiting the Great Wall of China. >> >> Is it, or a part of it, accessible nearby from the IETF venue? > > Ask the hotel. The Badaling section is probably where they will send > you. If you get your photo taken with Chairman Mao's calligraphy, you > should dicker on the price. I'm guessing you're pretty much on your own for the other 8800km of the wall. _______________________________________________ > 79attendees mailing list > 79attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees _______________________________________________ 79attendees mailing list 79attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees= From scott.brim@gmail.com Sun Sep 19 03:09:38 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCC093A69BF for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 03:09:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aGlXhk2cM4xe for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 03:09:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bw0-f44.google.com (mail-bw0-f44.google.com [209.85.214.44]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94B893A677E for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 03:09:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so5163541bwz.31 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 03:09:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; bh=mK0zkQ0LQqbRy5yRm/NcX8V4PC16eN6ICBe9AI/FIGc=; b=n3Rv/nfuk9x49j33Rku2If0Jg8v/8Z8irexbj2teFkKxMsmYPO18j8WsQAu+JS6GoO YcVWhAbdI3ZhmhCoMb0nSgMlxsLyFJsEGRCqOsMw8ggBNmLoMonwwY70YriCXfzO1OCe wlf7ansuQF8xh9LeKpzVTpAtodZCYUkmdPrOY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=oORyNpCM3B2h5bP6gzTmTgjrpp0oQSNIgHs3+PBlebk5WLX0VUh9nZWivsgZTL4o6g KhMQ5yRC1z9CkwkZsgfEbw917r92vc60VKHujzzxjLt6H2z1dBkfHJqHaUJ5VJjnIOk+ AYZUX0o52f+gldh2BNKk+8I55xc84+zWNNYUI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.34.133 with SMTP id l5mr5520530bkd.180.1284890997085; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 03:09:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.63.83 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 03:09:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.63.83 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 03:09:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C958F22.6090501@gmail.com> References: <4C94B3EF.9000405@gmail.com> <4C958F22.6090501@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 06:09:56 -0400 Message-ID: From: Scott W Brim To: Joel Jaeggli Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0003255575fa74d768049099ff70 Cc: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [79attendees] Great Wall X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:09:38 -0000 --0003255575fa74d768049099ff70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Unrepaired sections of the wall can be very dangerous. People die on them. On Sep 19, 2010 12:18 AM, "Joel Jaeggli" wrote: On 9/18/10 5:43 AM, Scott Brim wrote: > On 09/18/2010 07:54 EDT, Abhishek Verma wrote: >> Hi, >> >>... I'm guessing you're pretty much on your own for the other 8800km of the wall. _______________________________________________ > 79attendees mailing list > 79attendees@ietf.org ... --0003255575fa74d768049099ff70 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

Unrepaired sections of the wall can be very dangerous. People die on them.

On Sep 19, 2010 12:18 AM, "Joel Jaeggli" <joelja@gmail.com> wrote:

On 9/18/10 5:43 AM, Scott Brim wrote:
> On 09/18/2010 07:54 EDT, Abhishek Verma wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>...

I'm guessing you're pretty much on your own for the other 8800km of the
wall.


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--0003255575fa74d768049099ff70-- From randy@psg.com Sun Sep 19 06:12:36 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4FA43A6926 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 06:12:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FCFbhedXqKSn for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 06:12:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C393E3A68D5 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 06:12:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=rmac.psg.com.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1OxJhR-0001DQ-AV; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 13:12:57 +0000 Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 09:12:56 -0400 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: Scott W Brim In-Reply-To: References: <4C94B3EF.9000405@gmail.com> <4C958F22.6090501@gmail.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/22.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Joel Jaeggli , 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [79attendees] Great Wall X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 13:12:37 -0000 > On Sep 19, 2010 12:18 AM, "Joel Jaeggli" wrote: >> I'm guessing you're pretty much on your own for the other 8800km of the >> wall. > Unrepaired sections of the wall can be very dangerous. People die on them. i'm tellin' ya'. take the train. :) randy From edward.jankiewicz@sri.com Mon Sep 20 08:24:22 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F1DD3A68E1 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:24:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.612 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.612 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.433, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MmA3vWvb+TQD for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:24:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.sri.com (newmail.SRI.COM [128.18.30.17]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5A973A685B for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:24:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_lNy4slalHwp7UFWdBxYY2w)" Received: from [192.168.2.18] ([unknown] [72.68.71.162]) by mail.sri.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0L9100KW2XH6FE00@mail.sri.com> for 79attendees@ietf.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:24:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <4C977CBA.20404@sri.com> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 11:24:42 -0400 From: Ed Jankiewicz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 To: 79attendees@ietf.org References: <4C94B3EF.9000405@gmail.com> <4C958F22.6090501@gmail.com> In-reply-to: Subject: Re: [79attendees] Great Wall X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 15:24:22 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_lNy4slalHwp7UFWdBxYY2w) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I believe that was the original intent. On 9/19/2010 6:09 AM, Scott W Brim wrote: > > Unrepaired sections of the wall can be very dangerous. People die on them. > >> On Sep 19, 2010 12:18 AM, "Joel Jaeggli" > > wrote: >> >> On 9/18/10 5:43 AM, Scott Brim wrote: >> > On 09/18/2010 07:54 EDT, Abhishek Verma wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >>... >> >> I'm guessing you're pretty much on your own for the other 8800km of the >> wall. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> > 79attendees mailing list >> > 79attendees@ietf.org >> ... >> > > _______________________________________________ > 79attendees mailing list > 79attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees -- Ed Jankiewicz - SRI International Fort Monmouth Branch Office - IPv6 Research Supporting DISA Standards Engineering Branch 732-389-1003 or ed.jankiewicz@sri.com --Boundary_(ID_lNy4slalHwp7UFWdBxYY2w) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I believe that was the original intent.

On 9/19/2010 6:09 AM, Scott W Brim wrote:

Unrepaired sections of the wall can be very dangerous. People die on them.

On Sep 19, 2010 12:18 AM, "Joel Jaeggli" <joelja@gmail.com> wrote:

On 9/18/10 5:43 AM, Scott Brim wrote:
> On 09/18/2010 07:54 EDT, Abhishek Verma wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>...

I'm guessing you're pretty much on your own for the other 8800km of the
wall.


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--Boundary_(ID_lNy4slalHwp7UFWdBxYY2w)-- From abhishekv.verma@gmail.com Mon Sep 20 08:29:00 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BEF03A69E3 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:29:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-2.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wQAFH7M58OMl for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:28:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pv0-f172.google.com (mail-pv0-f172.google.com [74.125.83.172]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 528983A685B for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:28:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pvg7 with SMTP id 7so1793598pvg.31 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:29:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=G0C6YfjWq7Cpj9xsXBdG+bSkNhHUV1XcO3ACpi7jkR8=; b=WB95oQZpygCJgH68R0Xuk8ob1zwIqTa9URaOkr9PIfcf5Z29fG9N07K4eBii+dJGGN UTtit6fz1jWXGwChvgwKCg3kVJSuaCy6CCbBKEfREHV1pCk4BiAJQnWiL0hrEVi0bbfI 5ImI8kRAWGpJQkHwX/OPikNXcxBs1+y9lSWS8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=nVvM8L7JMBUhEIcTc4ajnxuAvs3R/alFeMwHLmdtqLpaaB6u0FZeeOpdt5z4JAuhnk Ct8HCKbvOQwBIacbD/U+RraiVaRPSrhMbzbZcczOuuB5bsjgygMCB2bwboxe4iPbAHzw B/Ijnmm7CkWvvSeSUdGQ5X6qzEJAFuA7Ju85g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.160.2 with SMTP id i2mr10201371wae.110.1284996558084; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:29:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.8.198 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:29:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C977CBA.20404@sri.com> References: <4C94B3EF.9000405@gmail.com> <4C958F22.6090501@gmail.com> <4C977CBA.20404@sri.com> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 20:59:13 +0530 Message-ID: From: Abhishek Verma To: Ed Jankiewicz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [79attendees] Great Wall X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 15:29:00 -0000 Ok, so it seems that Great Wall may not be close enough. Given this, what are the other places of interest near the venue? Abhishek On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Ed Jankiewicz wrote: > I believe that was the original intent. > > On 9/19/2010 6:09 AM, Scott W Brim wrote: > > Unrepaired sections of the wall can be very dangerous. People die on them. > > On Sep 19, 2010 12:18 AM, "Joel Jaeggli" wrote: > > On 9/18/10 5:43 AM, Scott Brim wrote: >> On 09/18/2010 07:54 EDT, Abhishek Verma wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>>... > > I'm guessing you're pretty much on your own for the other 8800km of the > wall. > > _______________________________________________ >> 79attendees mailing list >> 79attendees@ietf.org > ... > > _______________________________________________ > 79attendees mailing list > 79attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees > > -- > Ed Jankiewicz - SRI International > Fort Monmouth Branch Office - IPv6 Research > Supporting DISA Standards Engineering Branch > 732-389-1003 or ed.jankiewicz@sri.com > > _______________________________________________ > 79attendees mailing list > 79attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees > > From tli@cisco.com Mon Sep 20 08:57:54 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC7663A68BF for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:57:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.475 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.475 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.124, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WAWTgzccxgWd for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:57:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-4.cisco.com (sj-iport-4.cisco.com [171.68.10.86]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 781983A6817 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:57:53 -0700 (PDT) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-4.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAO8gl0yrRN+J/2dsb2JhbACiFnGmPJwRhUEEhE6Fag X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,394,1280707200"; d="scan'208";a="189181892" Received: from sj-core-3.cisco.com ([171.68.223.137]) by sj-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 20 Sep 2010 15:58:17 +0000 Received: from dhcp-171-70-245-179.cisco.com (dhcp-171-70-245-179.cisco.com [171.70.245.179]) by sj-core-3.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o8KFwHKj008109; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 15:58:17 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Tony Li In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:58:17 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <4C94B3EF.9000405@gmail.com> <4C958F22.6090501@gmail.com> <4C977CBA.20404@sri.com> To: Abhishek Verma X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [79attendees] Great Wall X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 15:57:54 -0000 On Sep 20, 2010, at 8:29 AM, Abhishek Verma wrote: > Ok, so it seems that Great Wall may not be close enough. Given this, > what are the other places of interest near the venue? > The wall is definitely an excursion, but also well worth it, IMHO. Other must-see sites are the Forbidden City and the Temple of Heaven. Tony From pkisokau@gmail.com Mon Sep 20 10:00:23 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BCAB3A6B41 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 10:00:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.475 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.475 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.169, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MISSING_HEADERS=1.292] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iCa5ehoQn61y for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 10:00:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gx0-f172.google.com (mail-gx0-f172.google.com [209.85.161.172]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4283D3A6AC1 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 09:55:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by gxk20 with SMTP id 20so1919095gxk.31 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 09:55:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:cc:content-type; bh=+50ZW1OqH1ilvvdAFnbiAe2iMh7ZqwtITiGyLqSLGK4=; b=NOEyPRCgchHjWNF4Se0Vf62iC2YcTh6Nf4+X8i/mu/xzVl/qENkD2jii999HXHFrCX u6FOAfIRG/DS/flDxASSJ9mpM2SDmh1sB8b1pqxHmavbhYzeaV8q8Ycfl6SNlJ6d8kcj VPMQ+kn/YtWXwPUVISGr1ym91kARa1qw1+nI8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:cc :content-type; b=Ciqho534t0Dm+tlrAmTytGFTqcrx0LTp5D5dG2CyAIr6j3i0HHcJgW2dsulXM0SPk9 mzzdADOMTf70tOj2NFKUHEjl7qW/bi4JAEkYzXkM/QjXF4s9plaJIRfyuYuKbSBS67XJ yAYht1JwW1R6EaOmxI6FCshBNsglmMqI6L3Wo= Received: by 10.150.54.21 with SMTP id c21mt14012867yba.430.1285001732293; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 09:55:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.183.198 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 09:55:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4C94B3EF.9000405@gmail.com> <4C958F22.6090501@gmail.com> <4C977CBA.20404@sri.com> From: Parkop Kisokau Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 00:55:12 +0800 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd31042cb5e1b0490b3c7e9 Cc: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [79attendees] Great Wall X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 17:00:23 -0000 --000e0cd31042cb5e1b0490b3c7e9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Bird Nest and Tienanmen Square are other interesting places in Beijing which maybe worth visiting as well. Parkop. USTB On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:58 PM, Tony Li wrote: > > On Sep 20, 2010, at 8:29 AM, Abhishek Verma wrote: > > > Ok, so it seems that Great Wall may not be close enough. Given this, > > what are the other places of interest near the venue? > > > > The wall is definitely an excursion, but also well worth it, IMHO. > > Other must-see sites are the Forbidden City and the Temple of Heaven. > > Tony > > > _______________________________________________ > 79attendees mailing list > 79attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees > --000e0cd31042cb5e1b0490b3c7e9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bird Nest and Tienanmen Square are other interesting places in Beijing whic= h maybe worth visiting as well.

Parkop.
USTB

On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:58 PM, Tony Li &= lt;tli@cisco.com> wrote:

On Sep 20, 2010, at 8:29 AM, Abhishek Verma wrote:

> Ok, so it seems that Great Wall may not be close enough. Given this, > what are the other places of interest near the venue?
>

The wall is definitely an excursion, but also well worth it, IMHO.
Other must-see sites are the Forbidden City and the Temple of Heaven.

Tony


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--000e0cd31042cb5e1b0490b3c7e9-- From jav@sics.se Mon Sep 20 10:07:05 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FC1F3A6AAD for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 10:07:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZvDirk4iNsfy for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 10:07:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from letter.sics.se (letter.sics.se [193.10.64.6]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD863A69F1 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 10:07:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [193.10.66.36] (bit.sics.se [193.10.66.36]) (Authenticated sender: jav@sics.se) by letter.sics.se (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8543040103; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 19:07:24 +0200 (CEST) From: Javier Ubillos To: Abhishek Verma In-Reply-To: References: <4C94B3EF.9000405@gmail.com> <4C958F22.6090501@gmail.com> <4C977CBA.20404@sri.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-h6PyQeNhFxLv6QZRSEPd" Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 17:56:26 +0200 Message-ID: <1284998186.2104.37.camel@bit> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.3 Cc: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [79attendees] Great Wall X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 17:07:05 -0000 --=-h6PyQeNhFxLv6QZRSEPd Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You should definitely go to the wall. Also, you have to go to the forbidden city. However, leave it for last, whatever other tourism you want to do, do it before the forbidden city. Everything else pales in comparison. If you want to see all of the forbidden city, you'll need more than a day :) // Javier=20 On Mon, 2010-09-20 at 20:59 +0530, Abhishek Verma wrote: > Ok, so it seems that Great Wall may not be close enough. Given this, > what are the other places of interest near the venue? >=20 > Abhishek >=20 > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Ed Jankiewicz > wrote: > > I believe that was the original intent. > > > > On 9/19/2010 6:09 AM, Scott W Brim wrote: > > > > Unrepaired sections of the wall can be very dangerous. People die on th= em. > > > > On Sep 19, 2010 12:18 AM, "Joel Jaeggli" wrote: > > > > On 9/18/10 5:43 AM, Scott Brim wrote: > >> On 09/18/2010 07:54 EDT, Abhishek Verma wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>>... > > > > I'm guessing you're pretty much on your own for the other 8800km of the > > wall. > > > > _______________________________________________ > >> 79attendees mailing list > >> 79attendees@ietf.org > > ... > > > > _______________________________________________ > > 79attendees mailing list > > 79attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees > > > > -- > > Ed Jankiewicz - SRI International > > Fort Monmouth Branch Office - IPv6 Research > > Supporting DISA Standards Engineering Branch > > 732-389-1003 or ed.jankiewicz@sri.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > 79attendees mailing list > > 79attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees > > > > > _______________________________________________ > 79attendees mailing list > 79attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees --=-h6PyQeNhFxLv6QZRSEPd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkyXhCcACgkQGBo5FLRz4gqVdACeJ5yf7DedXOLFTDpP2pATu3Sw xDkAnR3nEFPUyNFYLhrnijZ6KBjeOTM7 =ewSN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-h6PyQeNhFxLv6QZRSEPd-- From christer.holmberg@ericsson.com Mon Sep 20 21:57:26 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 475DF3A692C for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 21:57:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.758 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.758 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.841, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jmXmzNsRhsdM for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 21:57:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw10.se.ericsson.net (mailgw10.se.ericsson.net [193.180.251.61]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AC093A691D for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 21:57:18 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb3d-b7cbeae00000772f-43-4c983b45d8ab Received: from esessmw0247.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.124]) by mailgw10.se.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 56.DD.30511.54B389C4; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 06:57:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ESESSCMS0356.eemea.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.78]) by esessmw0247.eemea.ericsson.se ([10.2.3.116]) with mapi; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 06:57:41 +0200 From: Christer Holmberg To: Javier Ubillos , Abhishek Verma Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 06:57:39 +0200 Thread-Topic: [79attendees] Great Wall Thread-Index: ActY5lLwUe/ddVWbR8ybon47gS5DBwAYsywA Message-ID: <7F2072F1E0DE894DA4B517B93C6A058501703C45@ESESSCMS0356.eemea.ericsson.se> References: <4C94B3EF.9000405@gmail.com> <4C958F22.6090501@gmail.com> <4C977CBA.20404@sri.com> <1284998186.2104.37.camel@bit> In-Reply-To: <1284998186.2104.37.camel@bit> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: "79attendees@ietf.org" <79attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [79attendees] Great Wall X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 04:57:26 -0000 Silkmarket (www.silkmarketbeijing.com) is a nice place to visit. And, even = if you don't buy anything, it's fun to watch. A little different from the t= ypical suburb mall :) Regards, Christer > -----Original Message----- > From: 79attendees-bounces@ietf.org=20 > [mailto:79attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Javier Ubillos > Sent: 20. syyskuuta 2010 18:56 > To: Abhishek Verma > Cc: 79attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [79attendees] Great Wall >=20 > You should definitely go to the wall. >=20 > Also, you have to go to the forbidden city. > However, leave it for last, whatever other tourism you want=20 > to do, do it before the forbidden city. Everything else pales=20 > in comparison. > If you want to see all of the forbidden city, you'll need=20 > more than a day :) >=20 > // Javier=20 >=20 > On Mon, 2010-09-20 at 20:59 +0530, Abhishek Verma wrote: > > Ok, so it seems that Great Wall may not be close enough.=20 > Given this,=20 > > what are the other places of interest near the venue? > >=20 > > Abhishek > >=20 > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Ed Jankiewicz=20 > > wrote: > > > I believe that was the original intent. > > > > > > On 9/19/2010 6:09 AM, Scott W Brim wrote: > > > > > > Unrepaired sections of the wall can be very dangerous.=20 > People die on them. > > > > > > On Sep 19, 2010 12:18 AM, "Joel Jaeggli" wrote: > > > > > > On 9/18/10 5:43 AM, Scott Brim wrote: > > >> On 09/18/2010 07:54 EDT, Abhishek Verma wrote: > > >>> Hi, > > >>> > > >>>... > > > > > > I'm guessing you're pretty much on your own for the other=20 > 8800km of=20 > > > the wall. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > >> 79attendees mailing list > > >> 79attendees@ietf.org > > > ... > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > 79attendees mailing list > > > 79attendees@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees > > > > > > -- > > > Ed Jankiewicz - SRI International > > > Fort Monmouth Branch Office - IPv6 Research Supporting DISA=20 > > > Standards Engineering Branch > > > 732-389-1003 or ed.jankiewicz@sri.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > 79attendees mailing list > > > 79attendees@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > 79attendees mailing list > > 79attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees >=20 > = From christer.holmberg@ericsson.com Mon Sep 20 22:03:03 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24A583A68DE for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; 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Tue, 21 Sep 2010 07:03:23 +0200 Received: from ESESSCMS0356.eemea.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.78]) by esessmw0191.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.115.84]) with mapi; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 07:03:23 +0200 From: Christer Holmberg To: Parkop Kisokau Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 07:03:23 +0200 Thread-Topic: [79attendees] Great Wall Thread-Index: ActY5hUffKZHtjnVSoaEZRJyRGnsxwAZAVjQ Message-ID: <7F2072F1E0DE894DA4B517B93C6A058501703C4A@ESESSCMS0356.eemea.ericsson.se> References: <4C94B3EF.9000405@gmail.com> <4C958F22.6090501@gmail.com> <4C977CBA.20404@sri.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7F2072F1E0DE894DA4B517B93C6A058501703C4AESESSCMS0356eem_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: "79attendees@ietf.org" <79attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [79attendees] Great Wall X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 05:03:03 -0000 --_000_7F2072F1E0DE894DA4B517B93C6A058501703C4AESESSCMS0356eem_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If you have the possibility, visiting T Square early in the morning, when t= here aren't too many people there, is quite interesting, and you can get pr= etty good photos etc. Regards, Christer ________________________________ From: 79attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:79attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of Parkop Kisokau Sent: 20. syyskuuta 2010 19:55 Cc: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [79attendees] Great Wall Bird Nest and Tienanmen Square are other interesting places in Beijing whic= h maybe worth visiting as well. Parkop. USTB On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:58 PM, Tony Li > wrote: On Sep 20, 2010, at 8:29 AM, Abhishek Verma wrote: > Ok, so it seems that Great Wall may not be close enough. Given this, > what are the other places of interest near the venue? > The wall is definitely an excursion, but also well worth it, IMHO. Other must-see sites are the Forbidden City and the Temple of Heaven. Tony _______________________________________________ 79attendees mailing list 79attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees --_000_7F2072F1E0DE894DA4B517B93C6A058501703C4AESESSCMS0356eem_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
If you have the possibility, visiting T Square ear= ly in the=20 morning, when there aren't too many people there, is quite interesting, and= you=20 can get pretty good photos etc.
 
Regards,
 
Christer

From: 79attendees-bounces@ietf.org=20 [mailto:79attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Parkop=20 Kisokau
Sent: 20. syyskuuta 2010 19:55
Cc:=20 79attendees@ietf.org
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Bird Nest and Tienanmen Square are other interesting places in= =20 Beijing which maybe worth visiting as well.

Parkop.
USTB
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:58 PM, Tony Li <tli@cisco.com>=20 wrote:

On Sep 20, 2010, at 8:29 AM, Abhishek Verma=20 wrote:

> Ok, so it seems that Great Wall may not be close eno= ugh.=20 Given this,
> what are the other places of interest near the=20 venue?
>

The wall is definitely an excursion, but al= so=20 well worth it, IMHO.

Other must-see sites are the Forbidden City= and=20 the Temple of Heaven.

Tony


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--_000_7F2072F1E0DE894DA4B517B93C6A058501703C4AESESSCMS0356eem_-- From miaofy@huawei.com Mon Sep 20 23:32:27 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82B963A68B1 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 23:32:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.133 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.133 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.257, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD=0.884, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7tTzb3F6Eaxz for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 23:32:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from szxga01-in.huawei.com (unknown [119.145.14.64]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DC893A6952 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 23:32:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (szxga01-in [172.24.2.3]) by szxga01-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0L93000C63IFVF@szxga01-in.huawei.com> for 79attendees@ietf.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:32:39 +0800 (CST) Received: from huawei.com ([172.24.2.119]) by szxga01-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0L9300G673IFJC@szxga01-in.huawei.com> for 79attendees@ietf.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:32:39 +0800 (CST) Received: from m00129482d ([10.110.98.68]) by szxml06-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0L930099F3IEUA@szxml06-in.huawei.com> for 79attendees@ietf.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:32:39 +0800 (CST) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:32:38 +0800 From: Miao Fuyou In-reply-to: <7F2072F1E0DE894DA4B517B93C6A058501703C4A@ESESSCMS0356.eemea.ericsson.se> To: 'Christer Holmberg' , 'Parkop Kisokau' Message-id: <010d01cb5956$c93feb20$44626e0a@china.huawei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_W0lwUUlCPSPXqljt+Dan8Q)" Thread-index: ActY5hUffKZHtjnVSoaEZRJyRGnsxwAZAVjQAAKgMtA= Cc: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [79attendees] Great Wall X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 06:32:27 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_W0lwUUlCPSPXqljt+Dan8Q) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Nobody recommend Summer Palace yet. From my PoV, Forbidden City, Great Wall and Summer Palace are the top 3 must-sees in Beijing. The picture currently at the main page of IETF is its one view. It's a great place to learn Chinese art on garden and architecure, history of Ching Dynasty, and even religion. Regards, Miao _____ From: 79attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:79attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Christer Holmberg Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 1:03 PM To: Parkop Kisokau Cc: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [79attendees] Great Wall If you have the possibility, visiting T Square early in the morning, when there aren't too many people there, is quite interesting, and you can get pretty good photos etc. Regards, Christer _____ From: 79attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:79attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Parkop Kisokau Sent: 20. syyskuuta 2010 19:55 Cc: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [79attendees] Great Wall Bird Nest and Tienanmen Square are other interesting places in Beijing which maybe worth visiting as well. Parkop. USTB On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:58 PM, Tony Li wrote: On Sep 20, 2010, at 8:29 AM, Abhishek Verma wrote: > Ok, so it seems that Great Wall may not be close enough. Given this, > what are the other places of interest near the venue? > The wall is definitely an excursion, but also well worth it, IMHO. Other must-see sites are the Forbidden City and the Temple of Heaven. Tony _______________________________________________ 79attendees mailing list 79attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees --Boundary_(ID_W0lwUUlCPSPXqljt+Dan8Q) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Nobody recommend Summer Palace yet. From my PoV, Forbidden City, Great Wall and Summer Palace are the top 3 must-sees in Beijing. The picture currently at the main page of IETF is its one view. It's a great place to learn Chinese art on garden and architecure, history of Ching Dynasty, and even religion.
 
Regards,
Miao

From: 79attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:79attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Christer Holmberg
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 1:03 PM
To: Parkop Kisokau
Cc: 79attendees@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [79attendees] Great Wall

If you have the possibility, visiting T Square early in the morning, when there aren't too many people there, is quite interesting, and you can get pretty good photos etc.
 
Regards,
 
Christer

From: 79attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:79attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Parkop Kisokau
Sent: 20. syyskuuta 2010 19:55
Cc: 79attendees@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [79attendees] Great Wall

Bird Nest and Tienanmen Square are other interesting places in Beijing which maybe worth visiting as well.

Parkop.
USTB

On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:58 PM, Tony Li <tli@cisco.com> wrote:

On Sep 20, 2010, at 8:29 AM, Abhishek Verma wrote:

> Ok, so it seems that Great Wall may not be close enough. Given this,
> what are the other places of interest near the venue?
>

The wall is definitely an excursion, but also well worth it, IMHO.

Other must-see sites are the Forbidden City and the Temple of Heaven.

Tony


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--Boundary_(ID_W0lwUUlCPSPXqljt+Dan8Q)-- From tiziano.ionta@telecomitalia.it Tue Sep 21 05:20:49 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFCC23A69EF for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 05:20:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.786 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.786 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.333, BAYES_50=0.001, GB_I_INVITATION=-2, GB_I_LETTER=-2, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id u74fi2fVaFcW for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 05:20:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from GRFEDG702BA020.telecomitalia.it (grfedg702ba020.telecomitalia.it [156.54.233.201]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 906803A69DE for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 05:20:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from GRFHUB702BA020.griffon.local (10.188.101.112) by GRFEDG702BA020.telecomitalia.it (10.188.45.101) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.2.254.0; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:21:08 +0200 Received: from GRFMBX702BA020.griffon.local ([10.188.101.11]) by GRFHUB702BA020.griffon.local ([10.188.101.112]) with mapi; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:21:07 +0200 From: Ionta Tiziano To: "79attendees@ietf.org" <79attendees@ietf.org> Importance: high X-Priority: 1 Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:21:07 +0200 Thread-Topic: What kind of VISA? Thread-Index: ActToWMJuP5yDMIaSkKKwhPsUh9BDgF5Wdcg Message-ID: <885CC0380486234DBF486FA72FE9BE3BA4EBF36DD5@GRFMBX702BA020.griffon.local> References: <03E38E80-554F-4EB4-BC58-D02524A2E9F6@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <03E38E80-554F-4EB4-BC58-D02524A2E9F6@gmail.com> Accept-Language: it-IT Content-Language: it-IT X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: it-IT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [79attendees] What kind of VISA? X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:20:49 -0000 Hi all. I'm a bit confused about what kind of VISA to be asked. A Tourist Visa would be ok (I'll stay in China from the day before to the d= ay after IETF79)? Or a Business Visa is necessary? Do I need an Invitation Letter in BOTH cases? Thanks a lot. bye Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle per= sone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante dall= a conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abb= iate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di dar= ne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua distruzione= , Grazie. This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may contain privileged = information intended for the addressee(s) only. Dissemination, copying, pri= nting or use by anybody else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended r= ecipient, please delete this message and any attachments and advise the sen= der by return e-mail, Thanks. From christer.holmberg@ericsson.com Tue Sep 21 05:27:27 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0990B28C0E3 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 05:27:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.803 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.803 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=2.796, BAYES_00=-2.599, GB_I_INVITATION=-2, GB_I_LETTER=-2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Lx+PNyPY+r5t for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 05:27:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw9.se.ericsson.net (mailgw9.se.ericsson.net [193.180.251.57]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ACA528C0E7 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 05:27:25 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb39-b7b0bae000000f9a-09-4c98a4c592a7 Received: from esessmw0237.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.124]) by mailgw9.se.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 7A.EB.03994.5C4A89C4; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:27:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ESESSCMS0356.eemea.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.78]) by esessmw0237.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.115.90]) with mapi; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:27:48 +0200 From: Christer Holmberg To: Ionta Tiziano , "79attendees@ietf.org" <79attendees@ietf.org> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:27:48 +0200 Thread-Topic: What kind of VISA? Thread-Index: ActToWMJuP5yDMIaSkKKwhPsUh9BDgF5WdcgAABTKVA= Message-ID: <7F2072F1E0DE894DA4B517B93C6A0585017381AB@ESESSCMS0356.eemea.ericsson.se> References: <03E38E80-554F-4EB4-BC58-D02524A2E9F6@gmail.com> <885CC0380486234DBF486FA72FE9BE3BA4EBF36DD5@GRFMBX702BA020.griffon.local> In-Reply-To: <885CC0380486234DBF486FA72FE9BE3BA4EBF36DD5@GRFMBX702BA020.griffon.local> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: Re: [79attendees] What kind of VISA? X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:27:27 -0000 Hi, The visa rules may depend on your nationality, so you should check what's v= alid for your country (Italy, I assume). Personally I don't need an invitation letter for a tourist visa, and I know= the same applies to many other countries. Regards, Christer=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: 79attendees-bounces@ietf.org=20 > [mailto:79attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ionta Tiziano > Sent: 21. syyskuuta 2010 15:21 > To: 79attendees@ietf.org > Subject: [79attendees] What kind of VISA? > Importance: High >=20 > Hi all. > I'm a bit confused about what kind of VISA to be asked. > A Tourist Visa would be ok (I'll stay in China from the day=20 > before to the day after IETF79)? > Or a Business Visa is necessary? > Do I need an Invitation Letter in BOTH cases? > Thanks a lot. > bye >=20 > Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati=20 > esclusivamente alle persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o=20 > qualsiasi altra azione derivante dalla conoscenza di queste=20 > informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abbiate=20 > ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente=20 > pregati di darne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di=20 > provvedere alla sua distruzione, Grazie. >=20 > This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may=20 > contain privileged information intended for the addressee(s)=20 > only. Dissemination, copying, printing or use by anybody else=20 > is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient,=20 > please delete this message and any attachments and advise the=20 > sender by return e-mail, Thanks. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 79attendees mailing list > 79attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees > = From klaas@cisco.com Tue Sep 21 05:33:32 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBC9028C0F5 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 05:33:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -12.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-12.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=2.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, GB_I_INVITATION=-2, GB_I_LETTER=-2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oEm9QyWOC40i for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 05:33:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-2.cisco.com (sj-iport-2.cisco.com [171.71.176.71]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8477E28C0E8 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 05:33:27 -0700 (PDT) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-2.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av8EANxCmEyrR7Hu/2dsb2JhbACUM410caV7nDiFQQSKOA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,399,1280707200"; d="scan'208";a="280105690" Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com ([171.71.177.238]) by sj-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 21 Sep 2010 12:33:52 +0000 Received: from klaas-wierengas-macbook-air-2.local ([10.21.108.86]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o8LCXp1Q027667 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:33:51 GMT Message-ID: <4C98A62E.3050403@cisco.com> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:33:50 +0200 From: Klaas Wierenga User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100825 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 79attendees@ietf.org References: <03E38E80-554F-4EB4-BC58-D02524A2E9F6@gmail.com> <885CC0380486234DBF486FA72FE9BE3BA4EBF36DD5@GRFMBX702BA020.griffon.local> In-Reply-To: <885CC0380486234DBF486FA72FE9BE3BA4EBF36DD5@GRFMBX702BA020.griffon.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [79attendees] What kind of VISA? X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:33:32 -0000 On 9/21/10 2:21 PM, Ionta Tiziano wrote: > Hi all. > I'm a bit confused about what kind of VISA to be asked. > A Tourist Visa would be ok (I'll stay in China from the day before to the day after IETF79)? > Or a Business Visa is necessary? > Do I need an Invitation Letter in BOTH cases? http://www.travelchinaguide.com/embassy/italy.htm Klaas From edward.jankiewicz@sri.com Tue Sep 21 19:45:16 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC3453A6AA1 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:45:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.213 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.213 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.767, BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 53WvpYgD6-xv for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:45:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.sri.com (mail1.SRI.COM [128.18.30.17]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81203A6AB0 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:45:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Received: from [192.168.1.144] ([unknown] [68.81.23.3]) by mail.sri.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0L9400L1WNNZLIN0@mail.sri.com> for 79attendees@ietf.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:45:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <4C996DCE.4070004@sri.com> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 22:45:34 -0400 From: Ed Jankiewicz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 To: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: [79attendees] side trips before/after meeting week X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 02:45:16 -0000 Not to trigger a flood of e-mails, but any quick ideas on organizing some side trips, in particular a tour group to Great Wall, Forbidden City, Summer Palace, Temple of Heaven, Tianmen Square. Either weekend before or after the meeting? I should be in country from Thu PM thru the following Mon AM. Looking to join up with some other folks for group activity. Perhaps Doodle polling or something like that would work. From edward.jankiewicz@sri.com Tue Sep 21 19:51:27 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B0D33A6AA6 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:51:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.236 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.236 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.604, BAYES_40=-0.185, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wALe-Ob9hUgd for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:51:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.sri.com (newmail.SRI.COM [128.18.30.17]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8206E3A69CD for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:51:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Received: from [192.168.1.144] ([unknown] [68.81.23.3]) by mail.sri.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0L9400L7ONYCLIN0@mail.sri.com> for 79attendees@ietf.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:51:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <4C996F44.30603@sri.com> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 22:51:48 -0400 From: Ed Jankiewicz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 To: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: [79attendees] Chinese Musical Instruments X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 02:51:27 -0000 China based and especially Beijing Area Colleagues: Any suggestions on finding authentic Chinese folk instruments, especially an erhu (fiddle) and bamboo flute? Not toy or tourist souvenir, but a moderately priced real instrument (student level - not a professional level). My daughters play the standard western violin and flute, and I would like them to have the traditional Chinese instruments too. I am a guitarist and I already have a pipa! Appreciate any suggestions of sources in the area near the venue. Thank you. -- Ed Jankiewicz - SRI International Fort Monmouth Branch Office - IPv6 Research Supporting DISA Standards Engineering Branch 732-389-1003 or ed.jankiewicz@sri.com From peter.musgrave@magorcorp.com Wed Sep 22 03:33:20 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B043A6AFE for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 03:33:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.672 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.672 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.154, BAYES_20=-0.74, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, J_CHICKENPOX_36=0.6, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pDN1Y83U+Faz for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 03:33:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qw0-f44.google.com (mail-qw0-f44.google.com [209.85.216.44]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D63DF3A6AF9 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 03:33:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qwc9 with SMTP id 9so416113qwc.31 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 03:33:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.115.79 with SMTP id h15mr7985354qaq.21.1285151617689; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 03:33:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.68.39 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 03:33:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C996DCE.4070004@sri.com> References: <4C996DCE.4070004@sri.com> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 06:33:37 -0400 Message-ID: From: Peter Musgrave To: Ed Jankiewicz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [79attendees] side trips before/after meeting week X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:33:20 -0000 Hi Ed, I am on a similar schedule. I'd be interested in seeing if we could hire car+driver for Friday to go out to the Great Wall. Apparently the hotel concierge can set up such things. I'll dig around and see how expensive it is. Peter Musgrave On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Ed Jankiewicz wrote: > =A0Not to trigger a flood of e-mails, but any quick ideas on organizing s= ome > side trips, in particular a tour group to Great Wall, Forbidden City, Sum= mer > Palace, Temple of Heaven, Tianmen Square. =A0Either weekend before or aft= er > the meeting? =A0I should be in country from Thu PM thru the following Mon= AM. > =A0Looking to join up with some other folks for group activity. > > Perhaps Doodle polling or something like that would work. > > _______________________________________________ > 79attendees mailing list > 79attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees > From klaas@cisco.com Wed Sep 22 04:51:06 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3D743A699A for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 04:51:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.700, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_36=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id buXQ8Ag23T56 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 04:51:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-3.cisco.com (sj-iport-3.cisco.com [171.71.176.72]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D83D93A6968 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 04:51:05 -0700 (PDT) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-3.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlUFAIKKmUyrR7Ht/2dsb2JhbACUOY11caYXnBCFQQSKOA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,406,1280707200"; d="scan'208";a="239592254" Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com ([171.71.177.237]) by sj-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 22 Sep 2010 11:51:32 +0000 Received: from klaas-wierengas-macbook-air-2.local ([10.21.108.86]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o8MBpVth001655 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 11:51:32 GMT Message-ID: <4C99EDC2.80206@cisco.com> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:51:30 +0200 From: Klaas Wierenga User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 79attendees@ietf.org References: <4C996DCE.4070004@sri.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [79attendees] side trips before/after meeting week X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 11:51:07 -0000 On 9/22/10 12:33 PM, Peter Musgrave wrote: > Hi Ed, > > I am on a similar schedule. > > I'd be interested in seeing if we could hire car+driver for Friday to > go out to the Great Wall. Apparently the hotel concierge can set up > such things. I'll dig around and see how expensive it is. I paid about $50 for a car with driver to Badaling in January. Klaas > > Peter Musgrave > > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Ed Jankiewicz > wrote: >> Not to trigger a flood of e-mails, but any quick ideas on organizing some >> side trips, in particular a tour group to Great Wall, Forbidden City, Summer >> Palace, Temple of Heaven, Tianmen Square. Either weekend before or after >> the meeting? I should be in country from Thu PM thru the following Mon AM. >> Looking to join up with some other folks for group activity. >> >> Perhaps Doodle polling or something like that would work. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 79attendees mailing list >> 79attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees >> > _______________________________________________ > 79attendees mailing list > 79attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees From peter.musgrave@magorcorp.com Fri Sep 24 03:53:23 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8453E3A6B42 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 03:53:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.284 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.284 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.507, BAYES_50=0.001, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, J_CHICKENPOX_36=0.6, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5nZovN06P0qn for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 03:53:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qy0-f172.google.com (mail-qy0-f172.google.com [209.85.216.172]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EEBF3A69E6 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 03:53:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qyk1 with SMTP id 1so1114488qyk.10 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 03:53:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.44.4 with SMTP id y4mr2186224qae.376.1285325633469; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 03:53:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.68.39 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 03:53:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C99EDC2.80206@cisco.com> References: <4C996DCE.4070004@sri.com> <4C99EDC2.80206@cisco.com> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 06:53:53 -0400 Message-ID: From: Peter Musgrave To: edward.jankiewicz@sri.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [79attendees] side trips before/after meeting week X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:53:23 -0000 Information from the ShangriLa hotel: (1) Hotel limousine service quotation: Audi A6 : Great Wall(2 ways) is RMB2000 per car. (1) Private car quotation: Hongqi car : Great Wall(2 ways) is RMB1000 per car. It doesn't include lunch and tour guide, transportation charge only. If you need tour guide, the cost is RMB100 per hour. I can book the car for you with your e-mail, and you also can book it when you arrive our hotel. Just contact concierge desk is OK. (FYI RMB1000 ~=3D USD 150) I would be interested in sharing a Hongqi car on Friday Nov. 5th. I suspect it'll take 3 people. I have no doubt there are cheaper alternatives - but this is very convenient. (Classic trade off) Peter On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 7:51 AM, Klaas Wierenga wrote: > On 9/22/10 12:33 PM, Peter Musgrave wrote: >> >> Hi Ed, >> >> I am on a similar schedule. >> >> I'd be interested in seeing if we could hire car+driver for Friday to >> go out to the Great Wall. Apparently the hotel concierge can set up >> such things. I'll dig around and see how expensive it is. > > I paid about $50 for a car with driver to Badaling in January. > > Klaas > >> >> Peter Musgrave >> >> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Ed Jankiewicz >> =A0wrote: >>> >>> =A0Not to trigger a flood of e-mails, but any quick ideas on organizing >>> some >>> side trips, in particular a tour group to Great Wall, Forbidden City, >>> Summer >>> Palace, Temple of Heaven, Tianmen Square. =A0Either weekend before or a= fter >>> the meeting? =A0I should be in country from Thu PM thru the following M= on >>> AM. >>> =A0Looking to join up with some other folks for group activity. >>> >>> Perhaps Doodle polling or something like that would work. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 79attendees mailing list >>> 79attendees@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> 79attendees mailing list >> 79attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees > > _______________________________________________ > 79attendees mailing list > 79attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees > From xzhao@cernet.edu.cn Fri Sep 24 18:55:24 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F973A6B5B for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 18:55:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -96.75 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-96.75 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.897, BAYES_50=0.001, FH_HAS_XAIMC=2.696, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8CBQVOjpA9sB for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 18:55:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cernet.edu.cn (cernet.edu.cn [202.112.39.2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 6AE323A6783 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 18:55:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xzhaoPC([127.0.0.25]) by cernet.edu.cn(AIMC 3.2.0.0) with SMTP id jm74c9d75be; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 09:55:50 +0800 From: "Xiaoliang Zhao" To: "'Ed Jankiewicz'" References: <4C996F44.30603@sri.com> In-Reply-To: <4C996F44.30603@sri.com> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 09:55:43 +0800 Message-ID: <00c601cb5c54$ca6d2570$5f477050$@edu.cn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: ActaAR7ldeNaBSjBShKgg62o2qyobACUyEGg Content-Language: zh-cn X-AIMC-AUTH: xzhao X-AIMC-MAILFROM: xzhao@cernet.edu.cn X-AIMC-Msg-ID: YZ2zTzYB Cc: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [79attendees] Chinese Musical Instruments X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 01:55:24 -0000 Search engine suggests there is a music instrument street = (=C0=D6=C6=F7=D2=BB=CC=F5=BD=D6) around Xinjiekou (=D0=C2=BD=D6=BF=DA), you may ask hotel or taxi driver = how to get there. I don't know much about those stuff myself, sorry cannot be of = more help. Best, Leon > -----Original Message----- > From: 79attendees-bounces@ietf.org = [mailto:79attendees-bounces@ietf.org] > On Behalf Of Ed Jankiewicz > Sent: 2010=C4=EA9=D4=C222=C8=D5 10:52 > To: 79attendees@ietf.org > Subject: [79attendees] Chinese Musical Instruments >=20 > China based and especially Beijing Area Colleagues: >=20 > Any suggestions on finding authentic Chinese folk instruments, > especially an erhu (fiddle) and bamboo flute? Not toy or tourist > souvenir, but a moderately priced real instrument (student level - not > a > professional level). My daughters play the standard western violin = and > flute, and I would like them to have the traditional Chinese > instruments > too. I am a guitarist and I already have a pipa! >=20 > Appreciate any suggestions of sources in the area near the venue. >=20 > Thank you. >=20 > -- > Ed Jankiewicz - SRI International > Fort Monmouth Branch Office - IPv6 Research > Supporting DISA Standards Engineering Branch > 732-389-1003 or ed.jankiewicz@sri.com >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 79attendees mailing list > 79attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees From edward.jankiewicz@sri.com Tue Sep 28 07:16:12 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C75563A6DD9 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 07:16:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.486 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.486 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.040, BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UdEykjRLiaUs for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 07:16:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.sri.com (srimail.SRI.COM [128.18.30.17]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32C673A6DEF for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 07:16:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Received: from [192.168.2.11] ([unknown] [72.68.71.162]) by mail.sri.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0L9G00K3YNO42KF1@mail.sri.com> for 79attendees@ietf.org; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 07:16:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <4CA1F8DD.4000306@sri.com> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 10:17:01 -0400 From: Ed Jankiewicz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 To: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: [79attendees] immunizations for China Travel X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 14:16:12 -0000 For travel to China, US CDC recommends all typical vaccinations be up to date, including DPT, MMR, Polio, seasonal and H1N1 flu, plus recommends Hep A and Hep B. Less critical for urban travel, but others are suggested including Typhoid. http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/destinations/china.aspx China requires Yellow Fever vaccination for anyone traveling from areas where that is endemic http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvbid/yellowfever/YF_GlobalMap.html Of course, check with your own country foreign affairs office and personal physician for your particular situation. Typhoid is the only one I have not had, and wondering if others with China travel experience have taken this precaution or not. From tena@huawei.com Tue Sep 28 07:32:54 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 960EB3A6B2A for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 07:32:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -99.266 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.266 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.186, BAYES_40=-0.185, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eKhSDoXX+25T for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 07:32:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from szxga02-in.huawei.com (unknown [119.145.14.65]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC4113A6953 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 07:32:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (szxga02-in [172.24.2.6]) by szxga02-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0L9G00E1TOFNDH@szxga02-in.huawei.com> for 79attendees@ietf.org; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 22:33:23 +0800 (CST) Received: from huawei.com ([172.24.2.119]) by szxga02-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0L9G00J6LOFNN9@szxga02-in.huawei.com> for 79attendees@ietf.org; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 22:33:23 +0800 (CST) Received: from [192.168.5.101] ([113.116.101.103]) by szxml02-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0L9G00EZ3OFMZ6@szxml02-in.huawei.com> for 79attendees@ietf.org; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 22:33:23 +0800 (CST) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 22:33:22 +0800 From: Tina TSOU To: 79attendees@ietf.org Message-id: <63D9561A-73DF-4056-B7DE-C73FA3F91DAC@huawei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_QDkDxq9N+Ddggcx4yWWwsw)" Subject: [79attendees] Potential visit at Baidu X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 14:32:55 -0000 --Boundary_(ID_QDkDxq9N+Ddggcx4yWWwsw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Dear all, I=92m discussing with Baidu about potential visits to a Baidu facility =20= during the IETF-79 meeting. The contact lady would like to see the roster in advance, for her to =20 get appropriate resources to support it. Unfortunately Baidu's main operations are located away from Beijing, =20 and their facilities here have limited space. The tour would be limited to a 10 person group visit each evening from =20= 6PM to 8PM from Monday to Thursday during IETF-79. To provide people in the various time zones around the =20= world a fair chance at signing up for the tour, I have set up a Wiki with quotas for each region (with one =20 wild-card position each night). Within each region access is first-come-first-serve. Interested parties can sign up on =20 the Wiki at http://visitbaidu.wikispaces.com/. B. R. Tina http://tinatsou.weebly.com= --Boundary_(ID_QDkDxq9N+Ddggcx4yWWwsw) Content-type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
Dear all,
I=92m discussing with = Baidu about potential visits to a Baidu facility during the = IETF-79 meeting.
The contact lady would like to see the roster in advance, = for her to get appropriate resources to support = it.
 
Unfortunately Baidu's main = operations are located away from Beijing, and their facilities here = have limited space.
The tour would be limited to a 10 = person group visit each evening from 6PM to 8PM from Monday to = Thursday
during IETF-79. To provide people in the various time zones = around the world a fair chance at signing up = for
the tour, I have set up a Wiki with quotas for each region = (with one wild-card position each night). Within each = region
access is first-come-first-serve. Interested parties can sign = up on the Wiki at 
 
= --Boundary_(ID_QDkDxq9N+Ddggcx4yWWwsw)-- From tena@huawei.com Tue Sep 28 07:40:43 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 435B13A6DC4 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 07:40:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -99.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.828, BAYES_20=-0.74, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A4ESX9KLCQIY for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 07:40:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from szxga04-in.huawei.com (unknown [119.145.14.67]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B25E3A6DD9 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 07:38:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (szxga04-in [172.24.2.12]) by szxga04-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0L9G00B11OO3L1@szxga04-in.huawei.com> for 79attendees@ietf.org; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 22:38:27 +0800 (CST) Received: from huawei.com ([172.24.2.119]) by szxga04-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0L9G00L0ROO3YC@szxga04-in.huawei.com> for 79attendees@ietf.org; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 22:38:27 +0800 (CST) Received: from [192.168.5.101] ([113.116.101.103]) by szxml01-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0L9G005W2OMFNU@szxml01-in.huawei.com>; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 22:38:27 +0800 (CST) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 22:38:26 +0800 From: Tina TSOU In-reply-to: <06f201cb5f1a$b3a19290$1ae4b7b0$@org> To: Carl Williams Message-id: <2E85BB8E-D649-4DAE-8C2B-EA135AF2B41F@huawei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_8ZFsmXJ4kj+RChR80Qa+Ag)" References: <63D9561A-73DF-4056-B7DE-C73FA3F91DAC@huawei.com> <06f201cb5f1a$b3a19290$1ae4b7b0$@org> Cc: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [79attendees] Potential visit at Baidu X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 14:40:43 -0000 --Boundary_(ID_8ZFsmXJ4kj+RChR80Qa+Ag) Content-type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable You don't need UID and password. It is public access. B. R. Tina http://tinatsou.weebly.com On Sep 28, 2010, at 10:37 PM, Carl Williams wrote: > Hi Tina, > > Could you sign me up for Monday evening=85. I don=92t have an = account =20 > on wikispaces. > > Carl Williams, MCSR Labs. > > > From: 79attendees-bounces@ietf.org = [mailto:79attendees-bounces@ietf.org=20 > ] On Behalf Of Tina TSOU > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 10:33 AM > To: 79attendees@ietf.org > Subject: [79attendees] Potential visit at Baidu > > Dear all, > I=92m discussing with Baidu about potential visits to a Baidu facility = =20 > during the IETF-79 meeting. > The contact lady would like to see the roster in advance, for her to =20= > get appropriate resources to support it. > > Unfortunately Baidu's main operations are located away from Beijing, =20= > and their facilities here have limited space. > The tour would be limited to a 10 person group visit each evening =20 > from 6PM to 8PM from Monday to Thursday > during IETF-79. To provide people in the various time zones around =20 > the world a fair chance at signing up for > the tour, I have set up a Wiki with quotas for each region (with one =20= > wild-card position each night). Within each region > access is first-come-first-serve. Interested parties can sign up on =20= > the Wiki at > http://visitbaidu.wikispaces.com/. > > > B. R. > Tina > http://tinatsou.weebly.com --Boundary_(ID_8ZFsmXJ4kj+RChR80Qa+Ag) Content-type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
You don't need UID and = password. It is public access.



On Sep 28, = 2010, at 10:37 PM, Carl Williams wrote:

Hi = Tina,
 
Carl Williams, MCSR = Labs.
B. R.
Tina
 In-Reply-To: <4CA1F8DD.4000306@sri.com> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 07:41:48 -0700 Message-Id: <5B8C6410-C491-4E53-AF4C-6D9617917DA5@cisco.com> References: <4CA1F8DD.4000306@sri.com> To: Ed Jankiewicz X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [79attendees] immunizations for China Travel X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 14:42:01 -0000 On Sep 28, 2010, at 7:17 AM, Ed Jankiewicz wrote: >=20 > For travel to China, US CDC recommends all typical vaccinations be up = to date, including DPT, MMR, Polio, seasonal and H1N1 flu, plus = recommends Hep A and Hep B. >=20 > Less critical for urban travel, but others are suggested including = Typhoid. >=20 > http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/destinations/china.aspx >=20 > China requires Yellow Fever vaccination for anyone traveling from = areas where that is endemic >=20 > http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvbid/yellowfever/YF_GlobalMap.html >=20 > Of course, check with your own country foreign affairs office and = personal physician for your particular situation. >=20 > Typhoid is the only one I have not had, and wondering if others with = China travel experience have taken this precaution or not. In general, even if I stay at home, it's a good thing to have my shots = up to date. I had the entire series when I started going to Uganda. Beijing is not very different than New York in this regard.=20= From Craemer@isoc.org Tue Sep 28 13:44:28 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5357D3A6DA2 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 13:44:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.703 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.703 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.037, BAYES_20=-0.74, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qZQ-2dZLE-dr for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 13:44:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp191.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp191.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.191]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 775E33A6D78 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 13:44:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp49.relay.iad1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 560D319036F; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 16:45:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Received: by smtp49.relay.iad1a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: craemer-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id EFB7D19038D; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 16:45:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Kevin Craemer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 16:45:07 -0400 To: ietf@ietf.org, 79attendees@ietf.org Message-Id: <1C2FE99F-9EE5-4F84-9C98-3C2D023B3914@isoc.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Subject: [79attendees] Save-the-Date: ISOC@IETF 79 Briefing Panel X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 20:44:28 -0000 Dear Colleagues: Following previous Internet Society briefing panels, including most = recently, "DNS: Secure at 27, what's next?" held in conjunction with = IETF 78, we wanted to let you know that we plan to hold a briefing panel = in conjunction with IETF 79 in Beijing. Many details (such as location and topic) are yet to be confirmed, but = the expected time is 11:45am - 12:45pm China Standard Time on Tuesday, 9 = November. More information, including registration details, will be shared = approximately two weeks prior to the event. Regards, Kevin Craemer Senior Events Manager Internet Society From tena@huawei.com Tue Sep 28 19:54:59 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D7693A6AA7 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 19:54:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.185 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.185 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.309, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JixePs2SswI9 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 19:54:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from szxga04-in.huawei.com (unknown [119.145.14.67]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE9953A6BD4 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 19:54:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (szxga04-in [172.24.2.12]) by szxga04-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0L9H00LYAMSEUN@szxga04-in.huawei.com> for 79attendees@ietf.org; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:55:27 +0800 (CST) Received: from huawei.com ([172.24.2.119]) by szxga04-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0L9H002AOMSE2H@szxga04-in.huawei.com> for 79attendees@ietf.org; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:55:26 +0800 (CST) Received: from z00147053k ([10.70.39.122]) by szxml04-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0L9H00HR6MSEK5@szxml04-in.huawei.com> for 79attendees@ietf.org; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:55:26 +0800 (CST) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:55:26 +0800 From: Tina TSOU To: 79attendees@ietf.org Message-id: <560CC143A4EE4696A58DF6355F710DE5@china.huawei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5931 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_EGr77ZIcu/k0tDCaLE4kcQ)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Subject: [79attendees] More on the Baidu visit X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 02:54:59 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_EGr77ZIcu/k0tDCaLE4kcQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Of course, for IETF engineers, what would be of most interest is "what has Baidu done that is surprising". How does Baidu accommodate scale in applications? How does Baidu build its datacenter network infrastructure - off-the-shelf hardware, low end or high end, custom very simple hardware with control in software (like Google)? What are its IPv6 plans? Implementations? For background - how many queries does it deal with per hour? How many independent users? What is the size of datacenter and network? I passed these questions to Baidu and they are considering what answers they can give. On practical arrangements: now that all time zones have had a chance to sign up, please ignore the quotas in the Wiki and place your name in any slot that's open. And we'll arrange transportation closer to the time. B. R. Tina http://tinatsou.weebly.com --Boundary_(ID_EGr77ZIcu/k0tDCaLE4kcQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=gb2312 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Of course, for IETF engineers, what would be of most interest is "what has Baidu done that is surprising". How does Baidu accommodate scale in applications?  How does Baidu build its datacenter network infrastructure - off-the-shelf hardware, low end or high end, custom very simple hardware with control in software (like Google)?  What are its IPv6 plans?  Implementations? For background - how many queries does it deal with per hour?  How many independent users?  What is the size of datacenter and network?
 
I passed these questions to Baidu and they are considering what answers they can give.
 
On practical arrangements: now that all time zones have had a chance to sign up, please ignore the quotas in the Wiki and place your name in any slot that's open. And we'll arrange transportation closer to the time.
 
 
 --Boundary_(ID_EGr77ZIcu/k0tDCaLE4kcQ)-- From tena@huawei.com Tue Sep 28 21:08:05 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D101D3A6C29 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 21:08:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -99.312 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.312 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.571, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_BASE64_TEXT=1.753, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2-t6eexTQTEM for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 21:08:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from szxga02-in.huawei.com (unknown [119.145.14.65]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80D7E3A6814 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 28 Sep 2010 21:08:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (szxga02-in [172.24.2.6]) by szxga02-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0L9H006JSQ6CJZ@szxga02-in.huawei.com> for 79attendees@ietf.org; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 12:08:36 +0800 (CST) Received: from huawei.com ([172.24.2.119]) by szxga02-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0L9H005O8Q6CWX@szxga02-in.huawei.com> for 79attendees@ietf.org; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 12:08:36 +0800 (CST) Received: from p00065294a ([10.70.39.103]) by szxml04-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0L9H001YJQ6C66@szxml04-in.huawei.com> for 79attendees@ietf.org; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 12:08:36 +0800 (CST) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 12:08:36 +0800 From: Tina TSOU To: 79attendees@ietf.org Message-id: <52ED71FBDDA24B3C8EEF49DC9E4134F4@china.huawei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5931 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_sho+aSJi6iqubuC1FsQsTw)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <560CC143A4EE4696A58DF6355F710DE5@china.huawei.com> Subject: Re: [79attendees] More on the Baidu visit X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 04:08:05 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_sho+aSJi6iqubuC1FsQsTw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Baidu said let's have Monday visit first (extending to 20 people), and see how people like to consider the following visits during the week. So, would you please sign up soon? Please ignore the quotas in the Wiki and place your name in any slot that's open. You don't need ID and pwd for this wiki, it is public access. B. R. Tina ----- Original Message ----- From: Tina TSOU To: 79attendees@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 10:55 AM Subject: [79attendees] More on the Baidu visit Of course, for IETF engineers, what would be of most interest is "what has Baidu done that is surprising". How does Baidu accommodate scale in applications? How does Baidu build its datacenter network infrastructure - off-the-shelf hardware, low end or high end, custom very simple hardware with control in software (like Google)? What are its IPv6 plans? Implementations? For background - how many queries does it deal with per hour? How many independent users? What is the size of datacenter and network? I passed these questions to Baidu and they are considering what answers they can give. On practical arrangements: now that all time zones have had a chance to sign up, please ignore the quotas in the Wiki and place your name in any slot that's open. And we'll arrange transportation closer to the time. B. R. 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multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_1fHW4B42VkFB4qFcWqSuZw)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Subject: [79attendees] Discover a Real China in IETF 79 X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 10:00:10 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_1fHW4B42VkFB4qFcWqSuZw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi all, Here is a draft "Discover a Real China in IETF 79". This document provides an introduction to your hosts in Beijing and to some of the sights of China. http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-tsou-ietf79-discover-china-00.txt B. R. Tina http://tinatsou.weebly.com --Boundary_(ID_1fHW4B42VkFB4qFcWqSuZw) Content-type: text/html; charset=gb2312 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Hi all,
Here is a draft "Discover a Real China in IETF 79". This document provides an introduction to your hosts in Beijing and to some of the sights of China.
 
 
 
 
--Boundary_(ID_1fHW4B42VkFB4qFcWqSuZw)-- From christer.holmberg@ericsson.com Thu Sep 30 03:24:49 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 823153A6B6F for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 03:24:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.903 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.903 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.696, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6JnRfY8ESpin for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 03:24:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw10.se.ericsson.net (mailgw10.se.ericsson.net [193.180.251.61]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 296E63A6B00 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 03:24:46 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb3d-b7cbfae00000264e-21-4ca4659b23d4 Received: from esessmw0247.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.124]) by mailgw10.se.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 13.93.09806.B9564AC4; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:25:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ESESSCMS0356.eemea.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.175]) by esessmw0247.eemea.ericsson.se ([10.2.3.116]) with mapi; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:25:31 +0200 From: Christer Holmberg To: Tina TSOU , "79attendees@ietf.org" <79attendees@ietf.org> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:20:52 +0200 Thread-Topic: [79attendees] Discover a Real China in IETF 79 Thread-Index: ActghnnJp9kt4u6XRDKTQ7DdY4jeYgAAq9JE Message-ID: <7F2072F1E0DE894DA4B517B93C6A058502C7173B@ESESSCMS0356.eemea.ericsson.se> References: <7A006BE55C704E3A87CE4304FDB32799@china.huawei.com> In-Reply-To: <7A006BE55C704E3A87CE4304FDB32799@china.huawei.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: Re: [79attendees] Discover a Real China in IETF 79 X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 10:24:49 -0000 Nice draft! :) Regarding the martial art: do you know where one could go and see martial a= rt shows and performances? Maybe we could start each session with some Tai Chi also ;) Regards, Christer ________________________________ From: 79attendees-bounces@ietf.org [79attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf= Of Tina TSOU [tena@huawei.com] Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 1:00 PM To: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: [79attendees] Discover a Real China in IETF 79 Hi all, Here is a draft "Discover a Real China in IETF 79". This document provides = an introduction to your hosts in Beijing and to some of the sights of China= . http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-tsou-ietf79-discover-china-00.txt B. R. Tina http://tinatsou.weebly.com From hhelvoort@chello.nl Thu Sep 30 03:35:39 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAC8D3A6C27 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 03:35:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.548 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.548 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.405, BAYES_20=-0.74, CN_BODY_711=0.243, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0IuO3JRDcEUZ for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 03:35:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fep15.mx.upcmail.net (fep15.mx.upcmail.net [62.179.121.35]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F253E3A6BA5 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 03:35:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from edge01.upcmail.net ([192.168.13.236]) by viefep15-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.8.01.02.02 201-2260-120-106-20100312) with ESMTP id <20100930103618.LUEM1472.viefep15-int.chello.at@edge01.upcmail.net>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:36:18 +0200 Received: from McAsterix.local ([77.250.51.60]) by edge01.upcmail.net with edge id CycH1f01u1Hw6VZ01ycJ4A; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:36:18 +0200 X-SourceIP: 77.250.51.60 Message-ID: <4CA46821.3030306@chello.nl> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:36:17 +0200 From: Huub van Helvoort User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tina TSOU References: <7A006BE55C704E3A87CE4304FDB32799@china.huawei.com> In-Reply-To: <7A006BE55C704E3A87CE4304FDB32799@china.huawei.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=O+FWVpunvrlG1gSnSO6WiIQ7o0MJ4laHqrEcUJ8XjIg= c=1 sm=0 a=Se6QH-sz8tYA:10 a=_l4uJm6h9gAA:10 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=AhsOxCB6LU3ve9nVaPMA:9 a=9YTa5f30G1WfgKOBRVq4plqCZHcA:4 a=mFyHDrcPJccA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Cc: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [79attendees] Discover a Real China in IETF 79 X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: hhelvoort@chello.nl List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 10:35:39 -0000 Dear Tina, ÄãºÃ£¡ You wrote: > Here is a draft "Discover a Real China in IETF 79". This document > provides an introduction to your hosts in Beijing and to some of the > sights of China. > http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-tsou-ietf79-discover-china-00.txt Thank you (лл£©for all this information. However I am missing one famous cultural aspect of Beijing. It is the Beijing opera (¾©¾ç - jing ju). Maybe you should add a few words about this. Regards (Îʺò - whenhow), Huub. -- ================================================================ Always remember that you are unique...just like everyone else... From christer.holmberg@ericsson.com Thu Sep 30 03:57:08 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA8B43A6CC7 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 03:57:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.911 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.911 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.688, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZKT60is3ZxEz for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 03:57:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw9.se.ericsson.net (mailgw9.se.ericsson.net [193.180.251.57]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B27B3A6D5C for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 03:57:06 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb39-b7c6dae000006ad7-51-4ca46d2fd16c Received: from esessmw0197.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.124]) by mailgw9.se.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 33.C7.27351.F2D64AC4; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:57:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ESESSCMS0356.eemea.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.175]) by esessmw0197.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.115.87]) with mapi; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:57:50 +0200 From: Christer Holmberg To: Tina TSOU , "79attendees@ietf.org" <79attendees@ietf.org> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:57:49 +0200 Thread-Topic: [79attendees] Discover a Real China in IETF 79 Thread-Index: ActghnnJp9kt4u6XRDKTQ7DdY4jeYgABm7N+ Message-ID: <7F2072F1E0DE894DA4B517B93C6A058502C71741@ESESSCMS0356.eemea.ericsson.se> References: <7A006BE55C704E3A87CE4304FDB32799@china.huawei.com> In-Reply-To: <7A006BE55C704E3A87CE4304FDB32799@china.huawei.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: Re: [79attendees] Discover a Real China in IETF 79 X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 10:57:09 -0000 Hi, I think it would also be good to add some text regarding good places/market= s to get "street food". That is much more "real China" than going to an ame= rican restaurant... :) I guess it is also good to point out that there ARE McDonald's restaurtants= in Beijing, so people living exclusively on such stuff won't have to starv= e... Regards, Christer ________________________________ From: 79attendees-bounces@ietf.org [79attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf= Of Tina TSOU [tena@huawei.com] Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 1:00 PM To: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: [79attendees] Discover a Real China in IETF 79 Hi all, Here is a draft "Discover a Real China in IETF 79". This document provides = an introduction to your hosts in Beijing and to some of the sights of China= . http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-tsou-ietf79-discover-china-00.txt B. R. Tina http://tinatsou.weebly.com From edward.jankiewicz@sri.com Thu Sep 30 09:30:45 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD0AA3A6B8E for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 09:30:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.183 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.183 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.737, BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0Syep1XVS7wh for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 09:30:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.sri.com (srimail.SRI.COM [128.18.30.17]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0FF83A6918 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 09:30:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Received: from [192.168.1.144] ([unknown] [68.81.23.3]) by mail.sri.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0L9K00JDIJ8EZK72@mail.sri.com> for 79attendees@ietf.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 09:31:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <4CA4BB5D.2050502@sri.com> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:31:25 -0400 From: Ed Jankiewicz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 To: 79attendees@ietf.org References: <4CA1F8DD.4000306@sri.com> In-reply-to: <4CA1F8DD.4000306@sri.com> Subject: Re: [79attendees] immunizations for China Travel X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 16:30:45 -0000 Update: my doc recommended a booster for MMR (in general a good idea for those of us vaccinated 50+ yrs ago) and DPT (pertussis is more prevalent in the US and other places due to a drop-off in "herd immunity") as well as the seasonal flu and typhoid. If you need any or all, don't wait - many immunizations take time to have the desired effect on your immune system. Also, they hesitate to give you more than 2 or 3 of these in one visit, so I had 2 today and need to go back in 2 weeks for the rest. IANAD - and I don't play one on TV. Check with your own medical provider. On 9/28/2010 10:17 AM, Ed Jankiewicz wrote: > For travel to China, US CDC recommends all typical vaccinations be up > to date, including DPT, MMR, Polio, seasonal and H1N1 flu, plus > recommends Hep A and Hep B. > > Less critical for urban travel, but others are suggested including > Typhoid. > > http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/destinations/china.aspx > > China requires Yellow Fever vaccination for anyone traveling from > areas where that is endemic > > http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvbid/yellowfever/YF_GlobalMap.html > > Of course, check with your own country foreign affairs office and > personal physician for your particular situation. > > Typhoid is the only one I have not had, and wondering if others with > China travel experience have taken this precaution or not. > _______________________________________________ > 79attendees mailing list > 79attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees -- Ed Jankiewicz - SRI International Fort Monmouth Branch Office - IPv6 Research Supporting DISA Standards Engineering Branch 732-389-1003 or ed.jankiewicz@sri.com From warren@kumari.net Thu Sep 30 09:53:41 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E99CD3A6DB4 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 09:53:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.985 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.985 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.586, BAYES_50=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_55=0.6, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NTXpLXkGOkL3 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 09:53:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.kumari.net (smtp.kumari.net [216.177.58.220]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B06763A6ABA for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 09:53:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.232] (unknown [64.13.52.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.kumari.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EB9632284807; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:53:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <0FB731C5-175A-4FE6-8F9B-5E8145D821FE@kumari.net> From: Warren Kumari To: Ed Jankiewicz In-Reply-To: <4CA4BB5D.2050502@sri.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:54:24 -0400 References: <4CA1F8DD.4000306@sri.com> <4CA4BB5D.2050502@sri.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [79attendees] immunizations for China Travel X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 16:53:42 -0000 On Sep 30, 2010, at 12:31 PM, Ed Jankiewicz wrote: > Update: my doc recommended a booster for MMR (in general a good > idea for those of us vaccinated 50+ yrs ago) and DPT (pertussis is > more prevalent in the US and other places due to a drop-off in "herd > immunity") as well as the seasonal flu and typhoid. > > If you need any or all, don't wait - many immunizations take time to > have the desired effect on your immune system. Also, they hesitate > to give you more than 2 or 3 of these in one visit, so I had 2 today > and need to go back in 2 weeks for the rest. > > IANAD - and I don't play one on TV. Check with your own medical > provider. I got the full set of, well, everything that they would give me[0] before I trundled off to Kenya at the beginning of the year. While Yellow Fever is not endemic to my area I figure it cannot hurt to show that I got immunized -- does anyone know if a photocopy of immunization cards would be acceptable "proof"? W [0]: Went to a travel doctor and checked off all the boxes then spent another while he rummaged though random boxes pulling out vials and saying things like "Planning on being around any round-nosed striped wallabies? Ok then, you don't need this one.. You're sure you want it anyway?! Completely sure? Okey then...... How about Papua New Guinean hemoragic fever?There hasn't been a case in 50 years, and its the opposite hemisphere..... Okey dokey, if you're sure you want it just in case... I have *no* idea what this one does, so li... Sure you want it?! Okey, next is... " So far there have been no ill-effecjwr mejj wark gwump. > > On 9/28/2010 10:17 AM, Ed Jankiewicz wrote: >> For travel to China, US CDC recommends all typical vaccinations be >> up to date, including DPT, MMR, Polio, seasonal and H1N1 flu, plus >> recommends Hep A and Hep B. >> >> Less critical for urban travel, but others are suggested including >> Typhoid. >> >> http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/destinations/china.aspx >> >> China requires Yellow Fever vaccination for anyone traveling from >> areas where that is endemic >> >> http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvbid/yellowfever/YF_GlobalMap.html >> >> Of course, check with your own country foreign affairs office and >> personal physician for your particular situation. >> >> Typhoid is the only one I have not had, and wondering if others >> with China travel experience have taken this precaution or not. >> _______________________________________________ >> 79attendees mailing list >> 79attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees > > -- > Ed Jankiewicz - SRI International > Fort Monmouth Branch Office - IPv6 Research > Supporting DISA Standards Engineering Branch > 732-389-1003 or ed.jankiewicz@sri.com > > _______________________________________________ > 79attendees mailing list > 79attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees From paul.hoffman@vpnc.org Thu Sep 30 10:09:43 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EABD63A6E27 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 10:09:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.064 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.064 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.618, BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1L18g-HdXjfL for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 10:09:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hoffman.proper.com (Hoffman.Proper.COM [207.182.41.81]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 660373A6E30 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 10:09:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.20.30.158] (75-101-30-90.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [75.101.30.90]) (authenticated bits=0) by hoffman.proper.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o8UHAOXo047977 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 10:10:25 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul.hoffman@vpnc.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <0FB731C5-175A-4FE6-8F9B-5E8145D821FE@kumari.net> References: <4CA1F8DD.4000306@sri.com> <4CA4BB5D.2050502@sri.com> <0FB731C5-175A-4FE6-8F9B-5E8145D821FE@kumari.net> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 10:10:23 -0700 To: 79attendees@ietf.org From: Paul Hoffman Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: [79attendees] immunizations for China Travel X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 17:09:43 -0000 At 12:54 PM -0400 9/30/10, Warren Kumari wrote: >On Sep 30, 2010, at 12:31 PM, Ed Jankiewicz wrote: > >>Update: my doc recommended a booster for MMR (in general a good idea for those of us vaccinated 50+ yrs ago) and DPT (pertussis is more prevalent in the US and other places due to a drop-off in "herd immunity") as well as the seasonal flu and typhoid. >> >>If you need any or all, don't wait - many immunizations take time to have the desired effect on your immune system. Also, they hesitate to give you more than 2 or 3 of these in one visit, so I had 2 today and need to go back in 2 weeks for the rest. >> >>IANAD - and I don't play one on TV. Check with your own medical provider. > >I got the full set of, well, everything that they would give me[0] before I trundled off to Kenya at the beginning of the year. >While Yellow Fever is not endemic to my area I figure it cannot hurt to show that I got immunized -- does anyone know if a photocopy of immunization cards would be acceptable "proof"? I have seen no request for proof of immunization. The visa application I filled out certainly didn't ask for it. --Paul Hoffman, Director --VPN Consortium From Adrian.Farrel@huawei.com Thu Sep 30 10:17:27 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA3893A6CA0 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 10:17:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.497 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.497 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.758, BAYES_20=-0.74, STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NsqZdS8a5pFa for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 10:17:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usaga01-in.huawei.com (usaga01-in.huawei.com [206.16.17.211]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BD653A6D35 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 10:17:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (usaga01-in [172.18.4.6]) by usaga01-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0L9K002CELEBKD@usaga01-in.huawei.com> for 79attendees@ietf.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 10:18:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from your029b8cecfe (dsl-sp-81-140-15-32.in-addr.broadbandscope.com [81.140.15.32]) by usaga01-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0L9K00BI4LEA38@usaga01-in.huawei.com> for 79attendees@ietf.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 10:18:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 18:18:02 +0100 From: Adrian Farrel To: 79attendees@ietf.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <4CA1F8DD.4000306@sri.com> <4CA4BB5D.2050502@sri.com> <0FB731C5-175A-4FE6-8F9B-5E8145D821FE@kumari.net> Subject: Re: [79attendees] immunizations for China Travel X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Adrian Farrel List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 17:17:27 -0000 If you bite someone during a particularly heated WG discussion, you will be asked to provide proof of rabies immunization. If you can't show it, you may be put down. > I have seen no request for proof of immunization. The visa application I > filled out certainly didn't ask for it. From jakob.heitz@ericsson.com Thu Sep 30 11:15:23 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43C713A6E32 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 11:15:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.401, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZqnWlnzZxoSv for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 11:15:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imr3.ericy.com (imr3.ericy.com [198.24.6.13]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6238F3A6D08 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 11:15:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eusaamw0706.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.31]) by imr3.ericy.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o8UIG6fS027647 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL) for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 13:16:07 -0500 Received: from EUSAACMS0701.eamcs.ericsson.se ([169.254.2.166]) by eusaamw0706.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.31]) with mapi; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 14:16:06 -0400 From: Jakob Heitz To: "79attendees@ietf.org" <79attendees@ietf.org> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 14:16:04 -0400 Thread-Topic: maplets Thread-Index: ActghoBgn0dr7/BARzOWGV1KVwWlTAAREvag Message-ID: <7309FCBCAE981B43ABBE69B31C8D213909B4D12D3A@EUSAACMS0701.eamcs.ericsson.se> References: <7A006BE55C704E3A87CE4304FDB32799@china.huawei.com> In-Reply-To: <7A006BE55C704E3A87CE4304FDB32799@china.huawei.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7309FCBCAE981B43ABBE69B31C8D213909B4D12D3AEUSAACMS0701e_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [79attendees] maplets X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 18:15:23 -0000 --_000_7309FCBCAE981B43ABBE69B31C8D213909B4D12D3AEUSAACMS0701e_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I found an iPhone app with a map of Beijing. It's called "maplets". It preloads the map (and other maps), so you don't incur data roaming charg= es that you would using google maps. It locates your position using GPS. Ho= wever, the maps are not interactive, so no search or directions. Sorry zhongguoren, the map is in English! -- Jakob Heitz. --_000_7309FCBCAE981B43ABBE69B31C8D213909B4D12D3AEUSAACMS0701e_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I found an iPhone app with a map of Beijing. It'= s=20 called "maplets".
 
It preloads the map (and other maps), so you don= 't=20 incur data roaming charges that you would using google maps. It locates you= r=20 position using GPS. However, the maps are not interactive, so no search or= =20 directions.
 
Sorry zhongguoren, the map is in=20 English!
--
Jakob=20 Heitz.
--_000_7309FCBCAE981B43ABBE69B31C8D213909B4D12D3AEUSAACMS0701e_-- From Thomas.Haynes@netapp.com Thu Sep 30 11:30:43 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 534F43A6E27 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 11:30:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.471 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.471 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.127, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iwCB+nIQp-OO for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 11:30:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx2.netapp.com (mx2.netapp.com [216.240.18.37]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56AD33A6E64 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 11:30:29 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.57,260,1283756400"; d="scan'208,217";a="460894912" Received: from smtp2.corp.netapp.com ([10.57.159.114]) by mx2-out.netapp.com with ESMTP; 30 Sep 2010 11:31:15 -0700 Received: from sacrsexc2-prd.hq.netapp.com (sacrsexc2-prd.hq.netapp.com [10.99.115.28]) by smtp2.corp.netapp.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/NTAP-1.6) with ESMTP id o8UIVCod028957; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 11:31:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rtprsexc2-prd.hq.netapp.com ([10.100.161.115]) by sacrsexc2-prd.hq.netapp.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 30 Sep 2010 11:31:14 -0700 Received: from RTPMVEXC1-PRD.hq.netapp.com ([10.100.161.112]) by rtprsexc2-prd.hq.netapp.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 30 Sep 2010 14:31:13 -0400 Received: from swamir2-lxp.hq.netapp.com ([10.58.49.28]) by RTPMVEXC1-PRD.hq.netapp.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 30 Sep 2010 14:31:12 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-474109621 From: Thomas Haynes In-Reply-To: <7309FCBCAE981B43ABBE69B31C8D213909B4D12D3A@EUSAACMS0701.eamcs.ericsson.se> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 13:31:11 -0500 Message-Id: <1E85DAE8-2BA3-46F5-AF42-993E9A6130BF@netapp.com> References: <7A006BE55C704E3A87CE4304FDB32799@china.huawei.com> <7309FCBCAE981B43ABBE69B31C8D213909B4D12D3A@EUSAACMS0701.eamcs.ericsson.se> To: Jakob Heitz X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Sep 2010 18:31:12.0563 (UTC) FILETIME=[A8BBC030:01CB60CD] Cc: "79attendees@ietf.org" <79attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [79attendees] maplets X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 18:30:44 -0000 --Apple-Mail-1-474109621 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Sep 30, 2010, at 1:16 PM, Jakob Heitz wrote: > I found an iPhone app with a map of Beijing. It's called "maplets". > =20 > It preloads the map (and other maps), so you don't incur data roaming = charges that you would using google maps. It locates your position using = GPS. However, the maps are not interactive, so no search or directions. OffMaps is another app, I think it is searchable. Also, you can buy download guides for 1 token. And you can purchase more tokens. I'm not clear on the terms, but if you are about to upgrade, put off spending a token. I.e., the guides are valid for only 1 device. --Apple-Mail-1-474109621 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
On Sep 30, 2010, at 1:16 PM, Jakob = Heitz wrote:

I= found an iPhone app with a map of Beijing. It's called = "maplets".
 
It preloads the map (and = other maps), so you don't incur data roaming charges that you would = using google maps. It locates your position using GPS. However, the maps = are not interactive, so no search or = directions.

Of= fMaps is another app, I think it is = searchable.

Also, you can buy download guides = for 1 token. And you
can purchase more tokens. I'm not clear = on the terms, but
if you are about to upgrade, put off = spending a token.
I.e., the guides are valid for only 1 = device.



= --Apple-Mail-1-474109621-- From jason_livingood@cable.comcast.com Thu Sep 30 11:42:36 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 709FC3A6E64 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 11:42:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.834 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.834 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.029, BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_EQ_MODEMCABLE=0.768, HOST_EQ_MODEMCABLE=1.368, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UKmltkPullNe for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 11:41:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pacdcimo01.cable.comcast.com (PacdcIMO01.cable.comcast.com [24.40.8.145]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CE2F3A6D9E for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 11:41:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ([24.40.55.42]) by pacdcimo01.cable.comcast.com with ESMTP with TLS id 5503620.95241461; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 14:42:19 -0400 Received: from PACDCEXMB06.cable.comcast.com ([fe80::6134:ea50:286a:c0]) by PACDCEXHUB01.cable.comcast.com ([fe80::d1e7:20b5:9b63:21a6%12]) with mapi id 14.01.0218.012; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 14:42:19 -0400 From: "Livingood, Jason" To: Ed Jankiewicz , "79attendees@ietf.org" <79attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: [79attendees] immunizations for China Travel Thread-Index: AQHLYLzsAAfJrq35OkKfh2NMJHVi5JMq3PSA Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 18:42:18 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4CA4BB5D.2050502@sri.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.0.0.100802 x-originating-ip: [10.36.144.46] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <979458B32522FA4BBC05C85B0D287174@cable.comcast.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [79attendees] immunizations for China Travel X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 18:42:36 -0000 I went to a "Travel Medicine" specialist in my city (http://www.pennmedicine.org/travel/). For me they recommended Hep A & B (which I did via a 3-course "Twinrix" vaccination - which is done over 6 months), a polio booster, seasonal flu, and typhoid. The Jason On 9/30/10 12:31 PM, "Ed Jankiewicz" wrote: > Update: my doc recommended a booster for MMR (in general a good idea >for those of us vaccinated 50+ yrs ago) and DPT (pertussis is more >prevalent in the US and other places due to a drop-off in "herd >immunity") as well as the seasonal flu and typhoid. > >If you need any or all, don't wait - many immunizations take time to >have the desired effect on your immune system. Also, they hesitate to >give you more than 2 or 3 of these in one visit, so I had 2 today and >need to go back in 2 weeks for the rest. > >IANAD - and I don't play one on TV. Check with your own medical provider. > >On 9/28/2010 10:17 AM, Ed Jankiewicz wrote: >> For travel to China, US CDC recommends all typical vaccinations be up >> to date, including DPT, MMR, Polio, seasonal and H1N1 flu, plus >> recommends Hep A and Hep B. >> >> Less critical for urban travel, but others are suggested including >> Typhoid. From ole@cisco.com Thu Sep 30 12:58:22 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE09C3A6D01 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:58:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -110.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-110.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.485, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, URIBL_RHS_DOB=1.083, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OOt9s+rLzl64 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:58:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF7BA3A6CA0 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:58:21 -0700 (PDT) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-6.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAOKIpEyrR7Ht/2dsb2JhbACiMXGrJYIxDAGZeoVEBIRRhWs X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.57,261,1283731200"; d="scan'208";a="597273520" Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com ([171.71.177.237]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 30 Sep 2010 19:59:08 +0000 Received: from pita.cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.177.199]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o8UJx8de020611; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 19:59:08 GMT Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:58:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Ole Jacobsen To: Christer Holmberg In-Reply-To: <7F2072F1E0DE894DA4B517B93C6A058502C7173B@ESESSCMS0356.eemea.ericsson.se> Message-ID: References: <7A006BE55C704E3A87CE4304FDB32799@china.huawei.com> <7F2072F1E0DE894DA4B517B93C6A058502C7173B@ESESSCMS0356.eemea.ericsson.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: "79attendees@ietf.org" <79attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [79attendees] Discover a Real China in IETF 79 X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 19:58:22 -0000 Tina, Great draft. Here is my challenge: make it into an illustrated set of web pages, for example: http://hiroshima-info.info You could add all sorts of pictures, maps, video or sound clips (for the language guide), etc. Yes, it's a fair bit of work for sure. But you'll get lots of great feedback and help :-) Ole From cchau@huawei.com Thu Sep 30 13:09:54 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 036713A6D32 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 13:09:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.11 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.11 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id k78+tlwY3438 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 13:09:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usaga01-in.huawei.com (usaga01-in.huawei.com [206.16.17.211]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27C463A6CA0 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 13:09:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (usaga01-in [172.18.4.6]) by usaga01-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0L9K002B4TDKKD@usaga01-in.huawei.com> for 79attendees@ietf.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 13:10:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from C009011881 (mta2-den.mycricket.com [63.214.184.6]) by usaga01-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0L9K0006QTDJDE@usaga01-in.huawei.com> for 79attendees@ietf.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 13:10:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 13:10:32 -0700 From: Chak Chau In-reply-to: To: "'Livingood, Jason'" , 'Ed Jankiewicz' , 79attendees@ietf.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5931 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Thread-index: AQHLYLzsAAfJrq35OkKfh2NMJHVi5JMq3PSAgAAVnxA= References: <4CA4BB5D.2050502@sri.com> Subject: Re: [79attendees] immunizations for China Travel X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 20:09:54 -0000 Beijing is very safe. If you have Flu and Hep A vaccine, you are 99.9% covered in Beijing. Unless you planned on going beyond the Great Wall to Mongolia farm or swim in a jungle river or something. It is just like going to NY, LA, Boston, even Oklahoma etc with much much bigger Chinatown. BR, Chak -----Original Message----- From: 79attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:79attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Livingood, Jason Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 11:42 AM To: Ed Jankiewicz; 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [79attendees] immunizations for China Travel I went to a "Travel Medicine" specialist in my city (http://www.pennmedicine.org/travel/). For me they recommended Hep A & B (which I did via a 3-course "Twinrix" vaccination - which is done over 6 months), a polio booster, seasonal flu, and typhoid. The Jason On 9/30/10 12:31 PM, "Ed Jankiewicz" wrote: > Update: my doc recommended a booster for MMR (in general a good idea >for those of us vaccinated 50+ yrs ago) and DPT (pertussis is more >prevalent in the US and other places due to a drop-off in "herd >immunity") as well as the seasonal flu and typhoid. > >If you need any or all, don't wait - many immunizations take time to >have the desired effect on your immune system. Also, they hesitate to >give you more than 2 or 3 of these in one visit, so I had 2 today and >need to go back in 2 weeks for the rest. > >IANAD - and I don't play one on TV. Check with your own medical provider. > >On 9/28/2010 10:17 AM, Ed Jankiewicz wrote: >> For travel to China, US CDC recommends all typical vaccinations be up >> to date, including DPT, MMR, Polio, seasonal and H1N1 flu, plus >> recommends Hep A and Hep B. >> >> Less critical for urban travel, but others are suggested including >> Typhoid. _______________________________________________ 79attendees mailing list 79attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees From edward.jankiewicz@sri.com Thu Sep 30 13:32:50 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE8923A6D77 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 13:32:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.437 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.437 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.609, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vNfluG8B7VFf for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 13:32:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.sri.com (srimail.SRI.COM [128.18.30.17]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14D213A6B53 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 13:32:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Received: from [192.168.1.144] ([unknown] [68.81.23.3]) by mail.sri.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0L9K00JGEUFUO221@mail.sri.com> for 79attendees@ietf.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 13:33:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <4CA4F41C.8020106@sri.com> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 16:33:32 -0400 From: Ed Jankiewicz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 To: Chak Chau References: <4CA4BB5D.2050502@sri.com> In-reply-to: Cc: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [79attendees] immunizations for China Travel X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 20:32:50 -0000 Certainly I was not meaning to single out Beijing or China. Any big city with a lot of international travel is someplace to be aware of these things. People tend to forget recommended immunizations until something like a trip to a new place. It seemed like a good thing to check, and other than typhoid, all the boosters I got are normally recommended in the US for all adults who were immunized as children, and I was overdue. Small effort for peace of mind. I am very excited and looking forward to seeing Beijing and even getting a little out of town. Probably no excursion to Mongolia or the jungle... On 9/30/2010 4:10 PM, Chak Chau wrote: > Beijing is very safe. If you have Flu and Hep A vaccine, you are 99.9% > covered in Beijing. Unless you planned on going beyond the Great Wall to > Mongolia farm or swim in a jungle river or something. It is just like going > to NY, LA, Boston, even Oklahoma etc with much much bigger Chinatown. > > BR, > Chak > > > -----Original Message----- > From: 79attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:79attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On > Behalf Of Livingood, Jason > Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 11:42 AM > To: Ed Jankiewicz; 79attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [79attendees] immunizations for China Travel > > I went to a "Travel Medicine" specialist in my city > (http://www.pennmedicine.org/travel/). For me they recommended Hep A& B > (which I did via a 3-course "Twinrix" vaccination - which is done over 6 > months), a polio booster, seasonal flu, and typhoid. The > > > Jason > > On 9/30/10 12:31 PM, "Ed Jankiewicz" wrote: > >> Update: my doc recommended a booster for MMR (in general a good idea >> for those of us vaccinated 50+ yrs ago) and DPT (pertussis is more >> prevalent in the US and other places due to a drop-off in "herd >> immunity") as well as the seasonal flu and typhoid. >> >> If you need any or all, don't wait - many immunizations take time to >> have the desired effect on your immune system. Also, they hesitate to >> give you more than 2 or 3 of these in one visit, so I had 2 today and >> need to go back in 2 weeks for the rest. >> >> IANAD - and I don't play one on TV. Check with your own medical provider. >> >> On 9/28/2010 10:17 AM, Ed Jankiewicz wrote: >>> For travel to China, US CDC recommends all typical vaccinations be up >>> to date, including DPT, MMR, Polio, seasonal and H1N1 flu, plus >>> recommends Hep A and Hep B. >>> >>> Less critical for urban travel, but others are suggested including >>> Typhoid. > _______________________________________________ > 79attendees mailing list > 79attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees > -- Ed Jankiewicz - SRI International Fort Monmouth Branch Office - IPv6 Research Supporting DISA Standards Engineering Branch 732-389-1003 or ed.jankiewicz@sri.com From randy@psg.com Thu Sep 30 14:00:18 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 684073A6E5F for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 14:00:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id q7ZR6Fel0mkY for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 14:00:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 892163A6E37 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 14:00:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=rmac.psg.com.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1P1QFS-000JeX-Qz; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 21:01:03 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2010 06:01:01 +0900 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: Ed Jankiewicz In-Reply-To: <4CA4BB5D.2050502@sri.com> References: <4CA1F8DD.4000306@sri.com> <4CA4BB5D.2050502@sri.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/22.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [79attendees] immunizations for China Travel X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 21:00:18 -0000 folk, get real here. beijing is one of the world's major cities, is in a temperate climate (bring your wollies for november), and you're staying in a 'disneyland' hotel (i call these experiences the 'starship hilton'). my plan is to listen to a lot of cowboy junkies's "remnin park." randy, who keeps his hep shots current because he visits the states From warren@kumari.net Thu Sep 30 15:04:50 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CE873A6C6B for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 15:04:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.136, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sOnn+aPWkKaz for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 15:04:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.kumari.net (smtp.kumari.net [216.177.58.220]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 934303A6C5E for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 15:04:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.221] (unknown [64.13.52.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.kumari.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 832D6DEE001; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 18:04:51 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Warren Kumari In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 18:05:27 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0F5AFBD9-AC6D-4DA1-8917-00B4941F409B@kumari.net> References: <4CA1F8DD.4000306@sri.com> <4CA4BB5D.2050502@sri.com> To: Randy Bush X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [79attendees] immunizations for China Travel X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 22:04:50 -0000 On Sep 30, 2010, at 5:01 PM, Randy Bush wrote: > folk, get real here. >=20 > beijing is one of the world's major cities, is in a temperate climate > (bring your wollies for november), and you're staying in a = 'disneyland' > hotel (i call these experiences the 'starship hilton'). Personally I'm not worried about *catching* anything in Beijing (or = other places I travel), rather: A: getting stuck at airports (arriving or leaving) because of not having = the right bit of paper. B: carrying something from the US (or wherever) to somewhere else. C: on principle -- universal vaccination could have lead to the = eradication of numerous things. Two of my all time heros are Larry = Brilliant and D Henderson. >=20 > my plan is to listen to a lot of cowboy junkies's "remnin park." >=20 > randy, who keeps his hep shots current because he visits the states Warren, who keeps as many things current as he can, cos he's a belt and = suspends guy. > _______________________________________________ > 79attendees mailing list > 79attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/79attendees From randy@psg.com Thu Sep 30 15:40:51 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9222E3A6C5E for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 15:40:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id a0qQ4OFzKNO9 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 15:40:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C9633A6C43 for <79attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 15:40:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=rmac.psg.com.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1P1Rol-000Jx7-BV; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 22:41:35 +0000 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2010 07:41:34 +0900 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: Warren Kumari In-Reply-To: <0F5AFBD9-AC6D-4DA1-8917-00B4941F409B@kumari.net> References: <4CA1F8DD.4000306@sri.com> <4CA4BB5D.2050502@sri.com> <0F5AFBD9-AC6D-4DA1-8917-00B4941F409B@kumari.net> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/22.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 79attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [79attendees] immunizations for China Travel X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 22:40:51 -0000 > A: getting stuck at airports (arriving or leaving) because of not > having the right bit of paper. in the small amount of travel i have done, the only check has been yellow fever. > B: carrying something from the US (or wherever) to somewhere else. drones, bombs, personnel mines, napalm, ... seem to be the main issues > C: on principle -- universal vaccination could have lead to the > eradication of numerous things. a reasonable position. as is the minimal medication position. randy From barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com Thu Sep 30 22:36:36 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 79attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 948EE3A6BD9 for <79attendees@core3.amsl.com>; 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charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [79attendees] immunizations for China Travel X-BeenThere: 79attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF 79 attendees list <79attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2010 05:36:37 -0000 >> C: on principle -- universal vaccination could have lead to the >> =A0 =A0eradication of numerous things. > > a reasonable position. =A0as is the minimal medication position. Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! We will NOT have a vax/anti-vax argument added to the list of stuff that the attendees list degenerates into. Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! Please, no. Barry