Subject: [Cellar] DRAFT AGENDA for VIRTUAL INTERIM meeting 2019-09-24

From: Michael Richardson <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2019 21:53:09 -0400

CELLAR -- DRAFT AGENDA for Virtual Interim Meeting
September 24, 2019     19:00 UTC
                       21:00 Amsterdam
                       15:00 NYC
                       12:00 San Francisco

   NOTE new regular time.

INFO:
   https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-cellar-08/session/cellar
   https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-interim-2019-cellar-08-sessa/

WEB CONFERENCE:
   https://whereby.com/cellar-interim
   THERE IS NO TELEPHONE DIALIN (You can try this at any time.)
   These notes at: https://github.com/cellar-wg/chair-notes

1. Note Well.
2. Accept draft minutes from July 30 meeting (attached below)

3. Logistics for Meeting.
   2a) Etherpad for notes
       https://etherpad.ietf.org/p/notes-cellar-virtual?useMonospaceFont=true

   2b) APPEAR.IN is not called "whereby.com"
       https://whereby.com/cellar-interim

   2c) Roll call

4. WG status update
   * EBML -- STILL WAITING ON REVISED -11 document for AD evaluation.

5. Remining EBML issues, hoping for none.
      Issue #279 https://github.com/cellar-wg/ebml-specification/issues/279
      Pull request: https://github.com/cellar-wg/ebml-specification/pull/281

5. Work on Matroska issues.

6. Any other business.

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CELLAR -- DRAFT AGENDA for Virtual Interim Meeting
August 27, 2019        19:00 UTC
	                       21:00 Amsterdam
	                       15:00 NYC
	                       12:00 San Francisco

	NOTE this is one hour earlier than last time!

Participants:
    1) Michael Richardson
    2) Martin Below
    3) Steve Lhomme
    4) Michael Niedermayer
    5) Dave Rice
    6) Reto Kromer
    7) Jerome Martinez
    8) Benjamin Turkus

Regrets:
    1) Moritz Bunkus

	INFO:
	   https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-cellar-07/session/cellar
	   https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-interim-2019-cellar-07-sessa/

	WEB CONFERENCE:
	   https://appear.in/cellar-interim
	   THERE IS NO TELEPHONE DIALIN (You can try this at any time.)
	   These notes at: https://github.com/cellar-wg/chair-notes

	1. Note Well.
	2. Accept draft minutes from July 30 meeting (attached below)
	minutes accepted.
	Agenda amended to include FFV1.

	3. Logistics for Meeting.
	   2a) Etherpad for notes
	       https://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/p/notes-cellar-virtual?useMonospaceFont=true

	   2b) APPEAR.IN is now called "whereby.com"
	       https://whereby.com/cellar-interim

	   2c) Roll call

	4. WG status update
	   * EBML -- still waiting on revised -11 document for AD evaluation.
	   We had a lot of conversation last time about solving this logjam.
	   Much work on it 2019-08-26, is it done?

	5. Remining EBML issues, hoping for none.
	      Issue #279 https://github.com/cellar-wg/ebml-specification/issues/279
	      Pull request: https://github.com/cellar-wg/ebml-specification/pull/281
	ACTION: Dave will review the rest of the document to ensure that allowing Global Elements at
				Root Element is consistent with the rest of the document.
			(also will ping Moritz)

	5. FFV1
	--> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/cellar/noQ6X-9GPJ3yB3jSeLeHHMwOgh8
	--> how will SVG be sent to datatracker if the SVG are not embedded?
	-->

	6. Work on Matroska issues.

	ACTION: #335 Agree that NextUID is the way to use hard-linking, PrevUID is used as a safety for
				recovery of missing segments (optional).
	ACTION: #287 will get additional examples from Dave Rice.

	7. Any other business.

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	        CELLAR -- DRAFT AGENDA for Virtual Interim Meeting
	        July 30, 2019        20:00 UTC

	        Present:
	                1) Michael Richardson
	                2) Timothy B. Terriberry
	                3) Steve Lhomme
	                4) Martin Below
	                5) Dave Rice
	                6) Michael Niedermeier

	Regrets:
	            Jerome Martinez

	        INFO:
	           https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-cellar-06/session/cellar
	           https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-interim-2019-cellar-06-sessa/

	        WEB CONFERENCE:
	           https://appear.in/cellar-interim
	           THERE IS NO TELEPHONE DIALIN (You can try this at any time.)
	           These notes at: https://github.com/cellar-wg/chair-notes

	        1. Note Well.
	                https://www.ietf.org/about/note-well/

	        2. Accept draft minutes from June 25 meeting (attached below)
	                No objections/changes, minutes passed.

	        3. Logistics for Meeting.
	           2a) Etherpad for notes
	               https://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/p/notes-cellar-virtual?useMonospaceFont=true

	           2b) APPEAR.IN for video and screen sharing.
	               https://appear.in/cellar-interim

	           2c) Roll call

	        4. WG status update
	           * EBML -- still waiting on revised -11 document for AD evaluation.
	        ACTION from last time:
	                       ==> issue #257, requested one more day to think about it.
	                                                The changes
	                    are fine in general, but want to make sure it precise enough. (MB)

	        We created issue #279 to introduce some new text to better explain what a Global Element is, and why it does not end an unlimited size Element.

	           * Thank for reposting of draft-ietf-cellar-tags-02,
	                 draft-ietf-cellar-matroska-03  and draft-ietf-cellar-codec-02

	           * The personal draft-weaver-cellar-flac-00 did not get reposted.
	             I believe that we adopted it, so it should have been reposted with a
	             draft-ietf-cellar-flac-00!

	        reposted today, thank you.

	        5. Any remining EBML issues.

	        none known.

	        6. ffv1-07 could be reposted in v3 format.
	        ACTION: mcr to ask DataTracker and RSE if they are ready for this.

	        7. Work on Matroska issues.

	        Closed issue #325 (merged).
	        Discussed issue #334 and related issue #308.

	        8. Any other business.

	        Matroska Pull request #318 will be on the agenda for next time.

	        Meeting will be moved to an hour earlier, until the time changes.
	        Currently it is 23:00 Berlin, so we will anchor the meeting to 22:00 Berlin time.

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Michael Richardson <[email-masked]>, Sandelman Software Works
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