Subject: [Icn-interest] Decisoon on ICN meeting in Quebec?
From: stephen.farrell at cs.tcd.ie (Stephen Farrell)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 10:32:48 +0100

The room request is in the "additional meetings" list asking for
a meeting Tuesday afternoon with a 2nd choice of Sunday.

There is of course no guarantee of anything really, so the usual best
plan is to be there Sunday-Friday if you can or else wait as late as
possible to book flights.

S.

On 16/06/11 09:00, Dirk Kutscher wrote:
> Still waiting for the room request notification. We try to have it during the week.
> 
> We will post the final information here.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dirk
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: icn-interest-bounces at listserv.netlab.nec.de [mailto:icn-interest-
>> bounces at listserv.netlab.nec.de] On Behalf Of Joerg Ott
>> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 8:08 AM
>> To: icn-interest at listserv.netlab.nec.de
>> Subject: Re: [Icn-interest] Decisoon on ICN meeting in Quebec?
>>
>> I booked my flights already.  Mon-Thu would work for me.
>> Or late Sunday evening (21:00+)
>>
>> Joerg
>>
>> On 15.06.2011 23:23, Elwyn Davies wrote:
>>> Hi.
>>>
>>> Is there any decision on when to hold the side meeting that was
>>> suggested a few weeks ago?
>>>
>>> I'd like to get flights booked soon - I'd be happy for a meeting on
>> the
>>> Saturday before IETF week (23 July), but I'll a.s. be around for the
>>> rest of the week.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Elwyn Davies
>>>
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From: Dirk.Kutscher at neclab.eu (Dirk Kutscher)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 08:00:58 +0000
Subject: [Icn-interest] Decisoon on ICN meeting in Quebec?
In-Reply-To: <[email-masked]>
References: <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
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Still waiting for the room request notification. We try to have it during the week.

We will post the final information here.

Thanks,

Dirk

> -----Original Message-----
> From: icn-interest-bounces at listserv.netlab.nec.de [mailto:icn-interest-
> bounces at listserv.netlab.nec.de] On Behalf Of Joerg Ott
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 8:08 AM
> To: icn-interest at listserv.netlab.nec.de
> Subject: Re: [Icn-interest] Decisoon on ICN meeting in Quebec?
> 
> I booked my flights already.  Mon-Thu would work for me.
> Or late Sunday evening (21:00+)
> 
> Joerg
> 
> On 15.06.2011 23:23, Elwyn Davies wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > Is there any decision on when to hold the side meeting that was
> > suggested a few weeks ago?
> >
> > I'd like to get flights booked soon - I'd be happy for a meeting on
> the
> > Saturday before IETF week (23 July), but I'll a.s. be around for the
> > rest of the week.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Elwyn Davies
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Icn-interest mailing list
> Icn-interest at listserv.netlab.nec.de
> https://listserv.netlab.nec.de/mailman/listinfo/icn-interest

From: jo at netlab.tkk.fi (Joerg Ott)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 09:07:34 +0300
Subject: [Icn-interest] Decisoon on ICN meeting in Quebec?
In-Reply-To: <[email-masked]>
References: <[email-masked]>
Message-ID: <[email-masked]>

I booked my flights already.  Mon-Thu would work for me.
Or late Sunday evening (21:00+)

Joerg

On 15.06.2011 23:23, Elwyn Davies wrote:
> Hi.
>
> Is there any decision on when to hold the side meeting that was
> suggested a few weeks ago?
>
> I'd like to get flights booked soon - I'd be happy for a meeting on the
> Saturday before IETF week (23 July), but I'll a.s. be around for the
> rest of the week.
>
> Regards,
> Elwyn Davies
>

From: elwynd at folly.org.uk (Elwyn Davies)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 21:23:52 +0100
Subject: [Icn-interest] Decisoon on ICN meeting in Quebec?
Message-ID: <[email-masked]>

Hi.

Is there any decision on when to hold the side meeting that was 
suggested a few weeks ago?

I'd like to get flights booked soon - I'd be happy for a meeting on the 
Saturday before IETF week (23 July), but I'll a.s. be around for the 
rest of the week.

Regards,
Elwyn Davies

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From: lars.eggert at nokia.com (Lars Eggert)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 08:40:02 +0300
Subject: [Icn-interest] Moving ICNRG discussion to the icn-interest list
In-Reply-To: <[email-masked]>
References: <[email-masked]>
Message-ID: <[email-masked]>

Thank you!

On 2011-6-1, at 17:55, B?rje Ohlman wrote:

> To not spam the irtf-discuss list any more the discussion regarding the proposed ICNRG is hereby moved to the icn-interest list. If you are interested, please subscribe to that list.
> Instructions can be found at:
> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/irtf/trac/wiki/icnrg
> 
> 	B?rje
> _______________________________________________
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> https://listserv.netlab.nec.de/mailman/listinfo/icn-interest

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From: martin.vigoureux at alcatel-lucent.com (Martin Vigoureux)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 17:39:19 +0200
Subject: [Icn-interest] Draft ICN RG Charter v2
In-Reply-To: <[email-masked]>
References: <[email-masked]>	<[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
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B?rje,

isn't there something wrong with the start/end times?

-m

Le 01/06/2011 15:10, B?rje Ohlman a ?crit :
> I've made a request for a room from the IESG.
>
> I made the following request (as I did not know how the agenda will look like I just put in something)
>> Desired Meeting Date: 07/26/2011
>> Alternate Meeting Date: 07/24/2011
>> Expected Attendance: 40
>> Desired Start Time: 15:30:00
>> Desired End Time: 01:30:00
>
>
> The key question I think is if we want to have the side meeting before or after IRTF Open Meeting (IOM)?
> The presentation at IOM could serve different purposes. One is to attract people to the side meeting, then we should have the side meeting *after* the IOM. The other way to do it would be to present a more or less agreed proposal at the IOM, then we should have the side meeting *before* the IOM.
>
> Lars,
> I would like your advice on this. Also do you know when the IOM will take place?
>
> 	B?rje
>
> On 1 jun 2011, at 14.48, Stephen Farrell wrote:
>
>>
>> Did we ask Lars already for a meeting slot? If not, can
>> I suggest the Saturday before the IETF rather than
>> Sunday, when there're a bunch of other IETF things
>> happening.
>>
>> S.
>>
>> On 01/06/11 13:38, B?rje Ohlman wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Thanks for all the good and constructive comments and input on the mailing lists to the draft charter. We have now made an update to the charter in line with the mail discussion. Please check and see if you agree. Assuming there are no major objections we now feel that we have something that should be good enough to bring to a face-to-face discussion at the next IETF meeting.
>>>
>>> As mentioned earlier, we will present the proposal at the IRTF Open Meeting and an RG-to-be side meeting.
>>> Until then everyone is most welcome to use the icn-interest list to start discussion on topics that you think are relevant to the ICN RG. I think that having a good discussion on the mailing list is a good way to promote the need for this RG.
>>>
>>> 	B?rje
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Icn-interest mailing list
>>> Icn-interest at listserv.netlab.nec.de
>>> https://listserv.netlab.nec.de/mailman/listinfo/icn-interest
>
> _______________________________________________
> Icn-interest mailing list
> Icn-interest at listserv.netlab.nec.de
> https://listserv.netlab.nec.de/mailman/listinfo/icn-interest
>

From: stephen.farrell at cs.tcd.ie (Stephen Farrell)
Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 16:29:16 +0100
Subject: [Icn-interest] Draft ICN RG Charter v2
In-Reply-To: <[email-masked]>
References: <[email-masked]>	<[email-masked]>	<[email-masked]>	<[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
Message-ID: <[email-masked]>

On 01/06/11 16:20, Volker Hilt wrote:
> On 6/1/2011 9:20 AM, Dirk Kutscher wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> If possible, we should have the presentation before the RG-to-be side
>> meeting.
>>
>> The presentation needs to be well-prepared -- as an introduction for
>> the IETF/IRTF community to the topic. I don't think we want to report
>> from the side meeting.
>>
> I agree.
> 
> The presentation at the open meeting seems like a good vehicle to get
> momentum and  attract people to the side meeting.

Fair enough. However, that creates a dependency on the IETF agenda,
so things may or may not work out. A Saturday session would offer
more time with fewer distractions, but I'll go with the flow if
people prefer to meet during the week.

S.

From: volker.hilt at alcatel-lucent.com (Volker Hilt)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 11:20:57 -0400
Subject: [Icn-interest] Draft ICN RG Charter v2
In-Reply-To: <[email-masked]>
References: <[email-masked]>	<[email-masked]>	<[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
Message-ID: <[email-masked]>

On 6/1/2011 9:20 AM, Dirk Kutscher wrote:
> Hi,
>
> If possible, we should have the presentation before the RG-to-be side
> meeting.
>
> The presentation needs to be well-prepared -- as an introduction for
> the IETF/IRTF community to the topic. I don't think we want to report
> from the side meeting.
>
I agree.

The presentation at the open meeting seems like a good vehicle to get 
momentum and  attract people to the side meeting.

Thanks,

Volker

>> -----Original Message----- From: B?rje Ohlman
>> [mailto:borje.ohlman at ericsson.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011
>> 3:10 PM To: Stephen Farrell; Lars Eggert Cc:
>> icn-interest at listserv.netlab.nec.de; irtf-discuss at irtf.org;
>> Dirk at listserv.netlab.nec.de; Dirk Kutscher; Aaron Falk Subject: Re:
>> [Icn-interest] Draft ICN RG Charter v2
>>
>> I've made a request for a room from the IESG.
>>
>> I made the following request (as I did not know how the agenda
>> will look like I just put in something)
>>> Desired Meeting Date: 07/26/2011 Alternate Meeting Date:
>>> 07/24/2011 Expected Attendance: 40 Desired Start Time: 15:30:00
>>> Desired End Time: 01:30:00
>>
>>
>> The key question I think is if we want to have the side meeting
>> before or after IRTF Open Meeting (IOM)? The presentation at IOM
>> could serve different purposes. One is to attract people to the
>> side meeting, then we should have the side meeting *after* the IOM.
>> The other way to do it would be to present a more or less agreed
>> proposal at the IOM, then we should have the side meeting *before*
>> the IOM.
>>
>> Lars, I would like your advice on this. Also do you know when the
>> IOM will take place?
>>
>> B?rje
>>
>> On 1 jun 2011, at 14.48, Stephen Farrell wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Did we ask Lars already for a meeting slot? If not, can I suggest
>>> the Saturday before the IETF rather than Sunday, when there're a
>>> bunch of other IETF things happening.
>>>
>>> S.
>>>
>>> On 01/06/11 13:38, B?rje Ohlman wrote:
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for all the good and constructive comments and input on
>>>> the
>> mailing lists to the draft charter. We have now made an update to
>> the charter in line with the mail discussion. Please check and see
>> if you agree. Assuming there are no major objections we now feel
>> that we have something that should be good enough to bring to a
>> face-to-face discussion at the next IETF meeting.
>>>>
>>>> As mentioned earlier, we will present the proposal at the IRTF
>>>> Open
>> Meeting and an RG-to-be side meeting.
>>>> Until then everyone is most welcome to use the icn-interest
>>>> list to
>> start discussion on topics that you think are relevant to the ICN
>> RG. I think that having a good discussion on the mailing list is a
>> good way to promote the need for this RG.
>>>>
>>>> B?rje
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________ Icn-interest
>>>> mailing list Icn-interest at listserv.netlab.nec.de
>>>> https://listserv.netlab.nec.de/mailman/listinfo/icn-interest
>
> _______________________________________________ Icn-interest mailing
> list Icn-interest at listserv.netlab.nec.de
> https://listserv.netlab.nec.de/mailman/listinfo/icn-interest

From: borje.ohlman at ericsson.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?B=F6rje_Ohlman?=)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 16:55:43 +0200
Subject: [Icn-interest] Moving ICNRG discussion to the icn-interest list
Message-ID: <[email-masked]>

To not spam the irtf-discuss list any more the discussion regarding the proposed ICNRG is hereby moved to the icn-interest list. If you are interested, please subscribe to that list.
Instructions can be found at:
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/irtf/trac/wiki/icnrg

	B?rje

From: Dirk.Kutscher at neclab.eu (Dirk Kutscher)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 13:20:14 +0000
Subject: [Icn-interest] Draft ICN RG Charter v2
In-Reply-To: <[email-masked]>
References: <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
Message-ID: <[email-masked]>

Hi,

If possible, we should have the presentation before the RG-to-be side meeting.

The presentation needs to be well-prepared -- as an introduction for the IETF/IRTF community to the topic. I don't think we want to report from the side meeting.

Best regards,

Dirk

> -----Original Message-----
> From: B?rje Ohlman [mailto:borje.ohlman at ericsson.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 3:10 PM
> To: Stephen Farrell; Lars Eggert
> Cc: icn-interest at listserv.netlab.nec.de; irtf-discuss at irtf.org;
> Dirk at listserv.netlab.nec.de; Dirk Kutscher; Aaron Falk
> Subject: Re: [Icn-interest] Draft ICN RG Charter v2
> 
> I've made a request for a room from the IESG.
> 
> I made the following request (as I did not know how the agenda will
> look like I just put in something)
> > Desired Meeting Date: 07/26/2011
> > Alternate Meeting Date: 07/24/2011
> > Expected Attendance: 40
> > Desired Start Time: 15:30:00
> > Desired End Time: 01:30:00
> 
> 
> The key question I think is if we want to have the side meeting before
> or after IRTF Open Meeting (IOM)?
> The presentation at IOM could serve different purposes. One is to
> attract people to the side meeting, then we should have the side
> meeting *after* the IOM. The other way to do it would be to present a
> more or less agreed proposal at the IOM, then we should have the side
> meeting *before* the IOM.
> 
> Lars,
> I would like your advice on this. Also do you know when the IOM will
> take place?
> 
> 	B?rje
> 
> On 1 jun 2011, at 14.48, Stephen Farrell wrote:
> 
> >
> > Did we ask Lars already for a meeting slot? If not, can
> > I suggest the Saturday before the IETF rather than
> > Sunday, when there're a bunch of other IETF things
> > happening.
> >
> > S.
> >
> > On 01/06/11 13:38, B?rje Ohlman wrote:
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> Thanks for all the good and constructive comments and input on the
> mailing lists to the draft charter. We have now made an update to the
> charter in line with the mail discussion. Please check and see if you
> agree. Assuming there are no major objections we now feel that we have
> something that should be good enough to bring to a face-to-face
> discussion at the next IETF meeting.
> >>
> >> As mentioned earlier, we will present the proposal at the IRTF Open
> Meeting and an RG-to-be side meeting.
> >> Until then everyone is most welcome to use the icn-interest list to
> start discussion on topics that you think are relevant to the ICN RG. I
> think that having a good discussion on the mailing list is a good way
> to promote the need for this RG.
> >>
> >> 	B?rje
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Icn-interest mailing list
> >> Icn-interest at listserv.netlab.nec.de
> >> https://listserv.netlab.nec.de/mailman/listinfo/icn-interest

From: borje.ohlman at ericsson.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?B=F6rje_Ohlman?=)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 15:10:26 +0200
Subject: [Icn-interest] Draft ICN RG Charter v2
In-Reply-To: <[email-masked]>
References: <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
Message-ID: <[email-masked]>

I've made a request for a room from the IESG.

I made the following request (as I did not know how the agenda will look like I just put in something)
> Desired Meeting Date: 07/26/2011
> Alternate Meeting Date: 07/24/2011
> Expected Attendance: 40
> Desired Start Time: 15:30:00
> Desired End Time: 01:30:00

The key question I think is if we want to have the side meeting before or after IRTF Open Meeting (IOM)?
The presentation at IOM could serve different purposes. One is to attract people to the side meeting, then we should have the side meeting *after* the IOM. The other way to do it would be to present a more or less agreed proposal at the IOM, then we should have the side meeting *before* the IOM.

Lars, 
I would like your advice on this. Also do you know when the IOM will take place?

	B?rje
 
On 1 jun 2011, at 14.48, Stephen Farrell wrote:

> 
> Did we ask Lars already for a meeting slot? If not, can
> I suggest the Saturday before the IETF rather than
> Sunday, when there're a bunch of other IETF things
> happening.
> 
> S.
> 
> On 01/06/11 13:38, B?rje Ohlman wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> Thanks for all the good and constructive comments and input on the mailing lists to the draft charter. We have now made an update to the charter in line with the mail discussion. Please check and see if you agree. Assuming there are no major objections we now feel that we have something that should be good enough to bring to a face-to-face discussion at the next IETF meeting. 
>> 
>> As mentioned earlier, we will present the proposal at the IRTF Open Meeting and an RG-to-be side meeting.
>> Until then everyone is most welcome to use the icn-interest list to start discussion on topics that you think are relevant to the ICN RG. I think that having a good discussion on the mailing list is a good way to promote the need for this RG.
>> 
>> 	B?rje
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Icn-interest mailing list
>> Icn-interest at listserv.netlab.nec.de
>> https://listserv.netlab.nec.de/mailman/listinfo/icn-interest

From: stephen.farrell at cs.tcd.ie (Stephen Farrell)
Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 13:48:09 +0100
Subject: [Icn-interest] Draft ICN RG Charter v2
In-Reply-To: <[email-masked]>
References: <[email-masked]>
Message-ID: <[email-masked]>

Did we ask Lars already for a meeting slot? If not, can
I suggest the Saturday before the IETF rather than
Sunday, when there're a bunch of other IETF things
happening.

S.

On 01/06/11 13:38, B?rje Ohlman wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> Thanks for all the good and constructive comments and input on the mailing lists to the draft charter. We have now made an update to the charter in line with the mail discussion. Please check and see if you agree. Assuming there are no major objections we now feel that we have something that should be good enough to bring to a face-to-face discussion at the next IETF meeting. 
> 
> As mentioned earlier, we will present the proposal at the IRTF Open Meeting and an RG-to-be side meeting.
> Until then everyone is most welcome to use the icn-interest list to start discussion on topics that you think are relevant to the ICN RG. I think that having a good discussion on the mailing list is a good way to promote the need for this RG.
> 
> 	B?rje
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Icn-interest mailing list
> Icn-interest at listserv.netlab.nec.de
> https://listserv.netlab.nec.de/mailman/listinfo/icn-interest

From: borje.ohlman at ericsson.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?B=F6rje_Ohlman?=)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 14:38:57 +0200
Subject: [Icn-interest] Draft ICN RG Charter v2
Message-ID: <[email-masked]>

Hi All,

Thanks for all the good and constructive comments and input on the mailing lists to the draft charter. We have now made an update to the charter in line with the mail discussion. Please check and see if you agree. Assuming there are no major objections we now feel that we have something that should be good enough to bring to a face-to-face discussion at the next IETF meeting. 

As mentioned earlier, we will present the proposal at the IRTF Open Meeting and an RG-to-be side meeting.
Until then everyone is most welcome to use the icn-interest list to start discussion on topics that you think are relevant to the ICN RG. I think that having a good discussion on the mailing list is a good way to promote the need for this RG.

	B?rje

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