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I don't think it's a particularly controversial viewpoint to say that design patterns in general only exist to patch up shortcomings in the language" It's not controversial. It's false. Design Patterns describe solutions to problems. Nothing to do with language shortcomings in any way.   S.Lott Nov 30 '08 at 3:52 
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Design patterns describe general solutions to basic problems. But that's also what programming languages and platforms do. So you use design patterns when the languages and platforms you are using do not suff
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S.Lott: They describe solutions to problems which exist in a given language, yes. There is no Command design pattern in FP languages, because the problem it tries to solve does not exist. Which means that they solve problems that the language itself can't solve. That is, shortcomings in the langua
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The monad is a mathematical concept, and you're stretching it with your classification. Sure, you can view functions, monoids, monads, matrices or other mathematical concepts as design patterns, but those are more like algorithms and data structures ... fundamental concepts, language independent.   
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I agree that monads are in fact a mathematical concept but in pure functional programming they are a design pattern for encapsulating mutable state. But if you don't want to except that except that STM is a pattern for managing concurrency.   Thedric Walker Dec 3 '08 at 14:25
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Sure, monads are a math concept, but they are also a pattern. The "FP pattern" of monads is somewhat distinct from the math concept of mon
ote that monads in Haskell are used for other things than mutable state, for example for exceptions, continuations, list comprehensions, parsing, asynchronous programming and so on. But all these application of monads could probably be called patterns.   JacquesB Jan 2 '09 at 14:33