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Is there any guarantee that the e2e RESV message will follow the same
route as the PATH message?

As I understand, the Interior nodes ignore the e2e path messages and
'simply forward it as a normal IP datagram'. Hence they won't set up the
backward pointer. Hence the RESV may not follow that same path within
the interior, and even pop-out at a different aggregating router.

Solution is for the Router Alert to ensure that the backward pointer is
set, but for RSVP_E2E_IGNORE to ensure that nothing else is done.


Thanks,

Graham



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Hello, everyone,
are there Drafts availible about Mappings Diff-serv on ATM and
802-Networks?
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I have the following questions on the rsvp aggregation draft; perhaps someone
can clarify them for me...

1. PathErr from deaggregating router to aggregating router:
   The original PathErr has the following format:
   <Common Header> [ <INTEGRITY> ] <SESSION> <ERROR_SPEC> [ <POLICY_DATA> ...][
   <sender descriptor> ]

   ERROR_SPEC contains <IP Error Node Addr> <Flags> <Error Code> <Error Value>

   Does the draft suggest that the <IP Error Node Addr> be the deaggregating
   router, the <Error Code> be "NEW-AGGREGATE-NEEDED", and the <Error Value> be
   unspecified ("0")?

   I believe the <SESSION> object still contains the original end-to-end session
   info; Is this correct?  I think the aggregating router needs this info to
   track which original PATH state (there may be many) is associated with this
   PathErr.

2. Aggregate Path message:
   Is the draft adding a <AGGREGATE_SESSION> object, IN ADDITION TO the original
   <SESSION> object?  I think the original <SESSION> object containing
   end-to-end session info needs to be retained; otherwise the deaggregating
   router can not correlate the Aggregate Path message with a waiting PATH
   state, as suggested at the bottom of section 2.3,
     "To enable correct updating of the ADSPEC, a deaggregating router may wait
     for the arrival of an aggregate Path before forwarding the E2E Path."

Thank you,

Liang Li.




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You wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Navin kumar Agrawal [mailto:navin@lgsi.co.in]
> Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 4:45 AM
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> Subject: C, D terms of GS 
...
> In my case, the link layer media is Ethernet but the it is not used in
> the conventional shared media form. Meaning, it is used in the
> point-to-point form. So I guess, there is no need to implement SBM. 

I assume you mean "it is used in the full-duplex form" rather than just
point-to-point: even if you have a point-to-point link it might be running
half-duplex and so there may well be two senders competing for bandwidth. It
is only when you go to full-duplex that you have a single sender that can
administer the full bandwidth of the link. 

However, you still should use SBM protocol, even in this case, in order to
make sure that the RSVP messages (and hence the correct accounting for
bandwidth and resources) get to go through the right nodes along the layer-2
path between the layer-3 sender (or layer-3 router sending onto the subnet)
and the layer-3 receiver (or next hop layer-3 router). The implementation of
SBM for the full-duplex case is simplified only in the sense that there is
no need to elect who is the DSBM for the segment: in this case the answer is
always "me".

See the documents at http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/issll-charter.html
for more details.

[this part of the discussion should really be moved to ISSLL list, CC'ed
above - let's drop int-serv from this sub-thread].

Andrew

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Does anyone know the status of this draft.

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This was submitted today. You can get a pre-release copy from:

ftp://ftp.extremenetworks.com/pub/outgoing/docs/andrew/draft-ietf-issll-is80
2-sbm-mib-01.txt

It incorporates many helpful suggestions from Carl Kalbfleisch. Open Issues
still remaining:

(2)  How to represent more detailed e.g. per-queue/per-class
     information. We could use the per-interface tables from
     RFC2213/RFC2214 int-serv MIBs but we would then need one of these
     per queue per interface. this might need ifStackTable to group them
     together. Could also try to use the intSrvflowQueue object for
     this.

(8)  Should counters be zeroed whenever a SBM enters I_AM_DSBM state?
     (Propose: NO)

Opinions and other comments to the ISSLL list please.

Andrew

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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Integrated Services over Specific Link Layers Working Group of the IETF.

	Title		: Definitions of Managed Parameters for SBM network 
                          nodes
	Author(s)	: A. Smith, R. Pabbati
	Filename	: draft-ietf-issll-is802-sbm-mib-01.txt
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	Date		: 22-Oct-99
	
This memo includes a list of manageable parameters for RSVP/SBM server
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2206 and RFC 2213. Specifically, it describes parameters for control of
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	Title		: Definitions of Managed Parameters for SBM network 
                          nodes
	Author(s)	: A. Smith, R. Pabbati
	Filename	: draft-ietf-issll-is802-sbm-mib-01.txt
	Pages		: 32
	Date		: 22-Oct-99
	
This memo includes a list of manageable parameters for RSVP/SBM server
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2206 and RFC 2213. Specifically, it describes parameters for control of
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admission control decisions.  These definitions are not intended to be
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	Title		: Format of the RSVP DCLASS Object
	Author(s)	: Y. Bernet
	Filename	: draft-ietf-issll-dclass-01.txt
	Pages		: 6
	Date		: 27-Oct-99
	
RSVP signaling may be used to request QoS services and enhance the
manageability of application traffic's QoS in a differentiated service
(diff-serv or DS) network.  When using RSVP with DS networks it is
useful to be able to carry carry Differentiated Services Code Points
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	Title		: SBM (Subnet Bandwidth Manager):  A Protocol for 
                          RSVP-based Admission Control over IEEE 802-style    
                          networks
	Author(s)	: R. Yavatkar, D. Hoffman,  Y. Bernet, F. Baker
 	Filename	: draft-ietf-issll-is802-sbm-09.txt
	Pages		: 67
	Date		: 27-Oct-99
	
This document describes a signaling method and protocol for RSVP-based
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to work both with the current generation of IEEE 802 LANs as well as with the recent work completed by the IEEE 802.1 committee.

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