Subject: Re: [rbridge] [Isis-wg] I-D Action:draft-ietf-isis-layer2-11.txt

From: Donald Eastlake <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 07:01:24 -0500

Hi,

There has been discussion of "breaking the 4,096 limit" in the TRILL
WG, as you can see from the mailing list archives. Most, possible all,
the suggested solutions do not require any change in the size of a
"VLAN ID" but add other identifiers or use other techniques.

Thanks,
Donald

PS: I am about to leave on a trip and will probably be unable to
respond further until I arrive at my destination.
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2011/2/27 Xu Xiaohu <[email-masked]>:
> Hi all,
>
> As I heard from some could data center operators, 4096 VLANs would not be
> enough for isolating the huge amount of tenants in their future data center
> networks. Besides, the VLAN translation is a desirable feature in some
> scenarios (e.g., the same VLAN ID in different parts of the data center
> network is used for different tenants while different VLAN IDs in different
> parts of the data center network are used to connect a single tenant).
>
> Hence, I wonder whether it is possible to replace the fixed-length VLAN ID
> field (e.g., the VLAN-ID field in the MAC-reachability TLV as shown below)
> with a tenant/VPN instance ID TLV. With such TLV, at least the two problems
> mentioned above can be solved easily.
>
> Best wishes,
> Xiaohu
>
> ========================================================================
> 2.1.  The MAC-Reachability TLV
>
>   The MAC-Reachability (MAC-RI) TLV is IS-IS TLV type 141 and has the
>   following format:
>
>   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>   | Type= MAC-RI  |                  (1 byte)
>   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>   |   Length      |                  (1 byte)
>   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>   |   Topology-Id/ Nickname       |  (2 bytes)
>   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>   |   Confidence  |                  (1 byte)
>   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>   |  RESV |      VLAN-ID          |  (2 bytes)
>   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>   |                          MAC (1)    (6 bytes)                 |
>   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>   |                   .................                           |
>   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>   |                          MAC (N)    (6 bytes)                 |
>   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>
>
>
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>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
>> directories.
>> This draft is a work item of the IS-IS for IP Internets Working Group of
> the
>> IETF.
>>
>>
>>       Title           : Extensions to IS-IS for Layer-2 Systems
>>       Author(s)       : A. Banerjee, D. Ward
>>       Filename        : draft-ietf-isis-layer2-11.txt
>>       Pages           : 11
>>       Date            : 2011-02-09
>>
>> This document specifies the Intermediate System to Intermediate
>> System (IS-IS) extensions necessary to support link state routing for
>> any protocols running directly over Layer-2.  While supporting this
>> concept involves several pieces, this document only describes
>> extensions to IS-IS.  Furthermore, the Type, Length, Value pairs
>> (TLVs) described in this document are generic Layer-2 additions and
>> specific ones as needed are defined in the IS-IS technology specific
>> extensions.  We leave it to the systems using these IS-IS extensions
>> to explain how the information carried in IS-IS is used.
>>
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